Marian Schedenig 8,207 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Holko said: To the Plaza, Presto - Hell Yeah! Fighting the Troll! Dance of the Reed Flutes. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 But better! _deleted_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,207 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 I don't mind it in HA2, at all, but I am a bit bothered by Williams re-using his own borrowing in Potter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 10 hours ago, Holko said: To the Plaza, Presto - Hell Yeah! Fighting the Troll! I just knew that Fighting the Troll was more familiar than it should be, when I heard it on the LLL release last year. Now I know why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 11 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: I don't mind it in HA2, at all, but I am a bit bothered by Williams re-using his own borrowing in Potter. Maybe Columbus wanted it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 8 hours ago, Brundlefly said: I just knew that Fighting the Troll was more familiar than it should be, when I heard it on the LLL release last year. Now I know why. Listen to Giacchino's "The Motorcycle Chase" from Medal of Honor Underground too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Listening to the score now while mother is putting up the Christmas decorations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 55 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: Listening to the score now while mother is putting up the Christmas decorations. go help her, lazy boy! bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I offered, she said no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,083 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 A boy's best friend is his mother. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 13 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: A boy's best friend is his mother. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 On 12/7/2019 at 10:38 AM, Holko said: We Wish You a Merry Christmas / Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas: go to hell, Johnny, with your supposedly happy choir pieces starting with a jumpscare opening and sung in a hair-raising way! Like Gloria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,529 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 And Call of the Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smaug The Iron 516 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Well I have finally orderd this one. I was originally going to buy this when the first Home Alone was back in store but after reading this thread the last few weeks I decided to buy it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 On 4/1/2019 at 7:43 PM, bollemanneke said: I'm just listening to this set and have a few questions: [re Merry Christmas] And what happens at 1:35? The quality suddenly drops dramatically. It isn't like that on the Varèse set, right? Did we ever get an answer for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Not that I know of. You hear it in the movie and on the OST as well, but I really don't understand why they kept it on the LLL if the instrumental take doesn't have the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 My surprise Christmas gift of 2019 was this cd. Home Alone and Home Alone 2 are two work that Williams never gets the true credit he deserves that often goes to his overrated stuff. This is Amazing stuff. Smaug The Iron and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Yup! Although Home Alone 2 sounds and is performed badly. crumbs and Matt S. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted May 15, 2020 Author Share Posted May 15, 2020 Less than 100 copies left before this is Out Of Print! https://lalalandrecords.com/home-alone-2-lost-in-new-york-limited-edition-2-cd-set/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,083 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Finally, we can start hoping for a new release that includes the OST. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 This is probably been asked a million times before, but is this set a significant improvement over the Varese Sarabande edition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,083 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Just a few extra bonus tracks, nothing significant. Romão 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Not even sound wise? I remember some distortion in the climax of Star of Bethlehem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted May 15, 2020 Author Share Posted May 15, 2020 This title wasn't rebuilt from scratch from newly found elements, like LLL's second expansion of Home Alone was. They used the same element as the 2002 Varese version, but added lots of bonus tracks they left off the 2002 edition, and re-jiggered the main program a bit. The whole package is much nicer looking too. You could sell the Varese edition and probably get enough money to upgrade to this edition. There is no benefit to keeping the Varese edition, other than the fact that you already have it, and it would cost money to get this one. But there's no question that this is a better presentation of the score than the Varese was. Romão 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,083 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 13 minutes ago, Romão said: Not even sound wise? I remember some distortion in the climax of Star of Bethlehem Oh, I can't remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Thank you both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Has there ever been a subsequent expanded release that was not as good as the previous expanded release? Not just JW but any composer / film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, ATXHusker said: Has there ever been a subsequent expanded release that was not as good as the previous expanded release? Not just JW but any composer / film? Back to the Future? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Well, not counting BTTF or Goonies that were reissues w/ bonus tracks removed. I'm talking sound quality wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Return of the Jedi special edition then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,083 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 The demasters. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 This LLL does have disadvantages. It opens with the concert arrangements, for instance, which really doesn't work, especially because the performance of Star of Bethlehem is so terrible. I would be very interested in a re-issue that adds the songs too. Adding them makes the whole package much more varied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastoEls 563 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 17 hours ago, Jay said: Less than 100 copies left before this is Out Of Print! https://lalalandrecords.com/home-alone-2-lost-in-new-york-limited-edition-2-cd-set/ Thank you for this; a gap in my collection so have picked it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 2 hours ago, bollemanneke said: This LLL does have disadvantages. It opens with the concert arrangements, for instance, which really doesn't work, especially because the performance of Star of Bethlehem is so terrible. I would be very interested in a re-issue that adds the songs too. Adding them makes the whole package much more varied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,529 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Compared to the relative classics on 1, most the songs in 2 are just not interesting or memorable at all. But the first thing I did was definitely throwing the first 2 tracks in the recycling bin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,394 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 On 12/1/2012 at 7:29 PM, chinaismine said: Star of Bethlehem gets pretty horrible around 2:30. It is still "horrible" on the LLL release, heavy compression was used on this: Seems like they used the exact same masters as the 2002 Varese Sarabande release. @Jay Are you still thinking this is the last, definitive release of HA2 and that there's no chance to see a brand new master coming from Mike Matessino (possibly for the 30th Anniversary) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,529 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Does the Varese booklet state exactly what sources they used? Is this practically a reprint? HA1 was deemed worthy of a redo after only 5 years because better sources were found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 20 minutes ago, Holko said: Compared to the relative classics on 1, most the songs in 2 are just not interesting or memorable at all. But the first thing I did was definitely throwing the first 2 tracks in the recycling bin. I personally prefer the songs in 2. 'It's the most wonderful time of the year' and 'all alone on Christmas' are so much nicer than 'please come home for Christmas'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted May 16, 2020 Author Share Posted May 16, 2020 I suppose a fresh rebuild from analog elements would be possible, though now that Disney owns Fox it all becomes trickier. I think MM would prioritize scores that haven't been expanded yet over a score that's had two expansions and sold 6,000 copies combined Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,529 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 I’d buy a new release of HA2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Chewy said: It is still "horrible" on the LLL release, heavy compression was used on this: Do you hear it? I don't! Is there really a reason to make a new release? It already sounds better than the 2015 Home Alone version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 No, they need to do a re-recording with a good choir and someone who knows what reverb is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 I prefer the gentler Boston Pops performance from the Joy the the World album. The HA2 is too bombastic and therefore ruins the piece. Both expanded releases are fine. It's a nice score but hardly worth endless tinkering. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,207 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 22 hours ago, Romão said: This is probably been asked a million times before, but is this set a significant improvement over the Varese Sarabande edition? A friend of mine keeps telling me that it's worth it for one of the additional cues. I've never picked it up since I was happy enough with the Varese, but now I regret not including it in my recent Intrada order. 3 hours ago, rough cut said: I’d buy a new release of HA2. I don't really have a problem with the sound of the existing release(s), but I do expect it could sound smoother & nicer. I'd pick up a remaster. 9 minutes ago, crocodile said: I prefer the gentler Boston Pops performance from the Joy the the World album. The HA2 is too bombastic and therefore ruins the piece. Which piece? 9 minutes ago, crocodile said: Both expanded releases are fine. It's a nice score but hardly worth endless tinkering. Just about as much worth it as the first one, I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,529 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: Which piece? Star of Betlehem is what was being discussed there. The film recording does have a weird mix and performance and recording. Also that end section crackles for me around "seet uss FREEEEEE" unless I turn up the volume. Oh god the Joy to the World version goes oven more over the top and insufferable choir-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Brundlefly said: Do you hear it? I don't! Is there really a reason to make a new release? It already sounds better than the 2015 Home Alone version. I definitely hear that it is loud and kind of "pinched" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,207 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Holko said: Star of Betlehem is what was being discussed there. The film recording does have a weird mix and performance and recording. Also that end section crackles for me around "seet uss FREEEEEE" unless I turn up the volume. I've never had an issue with the performance. Yes, it's bombastic, but that seems to be the point of the new arrangement. I like the drama. If I want less bombast, I can always play the version from the first score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 I skipped this one but I really should get the Home Alone 1 upgrade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,083 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 My only reason to get HA2 were the two new JW carols, and new takes on the two old JW carols. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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