crocodile 8,017 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 While I agree, PROMETHEUS (I know who you are!), the first film seems to be getting more and more interesting as the time goes by. It's such a rarity among this group - small, intimate, almost theater-like affair with unusual score (where not undone by Klaus, that is).Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 X-MEN 2 is still my favourite of the lot.Mine too. The only points against it is the all too obvious "coming out" scene, which feels like it's from a TV movie of the week, and the fact that nearing the end, Singer does really lean on the ending for The Wrath Of Khan a bit too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 While I agree, PROMETHEUS (I know who you are!), the first film seems to be getting more and more interesting as the time goes by. It's such a rarity among this group - small, intimate, almost theater-like affair with unusual score (where not undone by Klaus, that is).KarolKlaus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Badelt.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 You're referring to the first X-Men? Michael Kamen scored that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 While I agree, PROMETHEUS (I know who you are!), the first film seems to be getting more and more interesting as the time goes by. It's such a rarity among this group - small, intimate, almost theater-like affair with unusual score (where not undone by Klaus, that is).KarolThe first one is excellent too, but suffers a bit from being shot and edited very fast (the release date was suddenly pushed forward 6 months). Some scenes, like the poisoning of Professor X are shot and edited without any apparent drama. And the special effects are quite rough, even for a film of that year.You're referring to the first X-Men? Michael Kamen scored that....Yes, but after that Klaus was brought in to "techno" is up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Klaus Badelt was brought in to record electronic overlays to go over Kamen's cues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 What they said. All the electronic stuff you hear in this score was done after the fact by Klaus Badelt and friends (without Kamen).Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Am I the only one who never "got" the Main Title stuff Singer directed for his two X-Men films? Lots of metallic CGI stuff whirling around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Huh never knew that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Neither did I till it was mentioned in the FSM podcast for the release of X-Men III Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Hopefully someone (MV, if you're reading this?) will release the whole thing and we get to hear it as it was meant to be. I'd buy that.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 454 Posted October 30, 2013 Author Share Posted October 30, 2013 While I agree, PROMETHEUS (I know who you are!), the first film seems to be getting more and more interesting as the time goes by. It's such a rarity among this group - small, intimate, almost theater-like affair with unusual score (where not undone by Klaus, that is).KarolKamen's theme for Logan and Rogue is just exquisite -- one of the best things Kamen wrote in his lifetime. Expansive with a sense of fragility and poignancy. It's a shame Ottman didn't reference it in X2, but I don't think there was a chance to use it either. Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Looks very promising, epic. I found the music choice to be cliche myself, but certainly not as much as the Inception BRRRRM or general Zimmer wall of sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 X-MEN 2 is still my favourite of the lot.mine too even though it owes Wrath of Khan more than a handshake.I am very encourage by this trailer, and regardless anytime Picard is on screen I pay attention.By going back to the time of the First Class cast, whatever event that they have to go back in time to prevent would have already happened before the first X-Men movie, putting the original trilogy well on the path to destruction. Or else we are supposed to see those films as having been fixed by this incursion. Time travel is so confusing.I highly doubt the focus of the film could be Senator Kelly as shown in the comics without this film simply undoing the plot of the first film, which is too narrow minded for this saga. I wonder what else is up their sleeve.Any feeling of continuity was ruined for this particular franchise after the third one. X-Men Origins, X-Men Firts Class and The Wolverine are full of contradictions to the first 3 films and each other....you worry too much, the basics are in place, it's not like Vulcan is destroyed as seen from a planet so far away that it would at best be a star winking out, or a villain going on a rampage of revenge because his home world is destroy even though he now has the time and means to save his world... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I'm glad Singer came back into the X-Men fold. I'm sure this film will be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 But how good can it be? It's still just a part of a milking process. The essence of the material has been said (several times now) and the initial wonderment of the first two is already behind us. Singer should've done something new, fresh and unexpected, like writing/directing one of the new Star Wars movies ... Oh wait! Blast it, I do think Singer would be perfect for the next SW saga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Mine too. The only points against it is the all too obvious "coming out" scene, which feels like it's from a TV movie of the week,It might be all too obvious but many people have received identical reactions in real life.My favourite part is the one when Magneto asks Pyro about his true name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Mine too. The only points against it is the all too obvious "coming out" scene, which feels like it's from a TV movie of the week,It might be all too obvious but many people have received identical reactions in real life.Yeah, those "scenes" tend to look like TV dramas anyway.Whatever the quality of the actual thing, it's nice to see Stewart/McKellen combo squaring off against Fassbender/McAvoy... that aspect in itself makes the whole thing interesting. Even if the concept doesn't look anything like the other films.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Finally watched the trailer... doesn't really show much. Seems like an odd story. Odd we don't get to see the Sentinels or any big action sequences really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 This is the "emo" trailer, the second one will be the "action" trailer.The lack of sentinels in this one will actually lead to more debate, which is good free publicity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Once 605 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Finally watched the trailer... doesn't really show much. Seems like an odd story. Odd we don't get to see the Sentinels or any big action sequences really.Singer: "Tomorrow's trailer is primarily a character piece, as most of our VFX are not yet finished." Maybe they're not ready to be shown yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Once 605 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 That was my thought too. Maybe they need special effects too. Or they may keep them as a secret, but then why post a picture of it? Hm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 454 Posted October 30, 2013 Author Share Posted October 30, 2013 Finally watched the trailer... doesn't really show much. Seems like an odd story. Odd we don't get to see the Sentinels or any big action sequences really.It's an interesting and conceptually challenging story -- and one that's definitely worth seeing if done right. On a more cynical note, it's a followup to both X3: The Last Stand and X-Men: First Class. (And something borne out of The Avengers' massive success.)I wonder if Ottman will acknowledge Henry Jackman's theme, or if he'll go back to his X2 themes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 In FMM's interview he talks about being disappointed in not being able to develop his themes further. So that sorta answers that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Anna Pauquin's Rogue has been cuthttp://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=112762 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Interesting. Seemed like it was a bit of a meaningless sequence anyways if it was only one scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Is this sort of shit in the movie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Is this sort of shit in the movie?I doubt it probably just viral promotional stuff for the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Why does almost every X-Men film have to be in some form or other about politics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Because it's always been involved...comics and in the 90's cartoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 It's just quite tiring. I think the point was made abundantly clear several times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Well then you might as well not watch the movies any more. Politics has always been a part of the X-Men lore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wycket 36 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 The X-Men were made as a way for writers to express their frustration by the Comics Code Authority and the strict rules it imposed on what could and couldn't be discussed. By using "mutants" in place of a number of different oppressed groups, writers were allowed to tackle more weighty issues and instill young audiences with new ideas. This has always been the X-Men story telling by and large, and the fact that the movies follow suit is only appropriate. Bilbo and Dixon Hill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 For those who don't get the trailer, it's about a younger, evil and angry Xavier. You thought he had stupid powers? Well, this movie will try to make you see things differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 The trailer looks very interesting. KK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I wonder if this'll be better than that last Wolverine movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Which I thought was splendid! A vast improvement over the last three, rather shallow films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 It was okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I liked the fact that this time they didn't overcrowd it with mutants who where only defined by their particular skills. But rather focused on a limited number of characters and gave them some depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Yeah, it's was decent enough, about on par with the first one I thought. I didn't really buy the romance side of it, which was problematic for the movie overall, since everything was focused around it. I wrote a little mini review last week on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 My angle on the romance is thus:Neither Logan or Mariko are really attracted to each other as people, but more as idea.Mariko sees in Wolverine the mythical hero that her grandfather told her about when she was a child, the beast.For Logan Mariko is in essence a "rebound". After failing to save Jean Grey, Mariko becomes a surrogate for that. A second chance. A young, fairly helpless girl who needs rescuing.On that level the romance works for me. But I found the relationship between Wolverine and his Manga sidekick more interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I share the thoughts of Rodrigo Perez of Indiewire:The Wolverine wants to have it both ways: a dark character story and an action-packed superhero film. But it never reconciles the two notes, and thus becomes more and more atonal as it wobbles towards its symphonically jarring ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I think it reconciles it quite well up until the ending with the Silver Robot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 The train action sequence just veered far too close to parody, I thought. It was entertaining for the wrong reasons given the serious tone of the film up to that point.I did quite enjoy the movie by the end, but it should have been better than it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I agree the train sequence was a bit much but over all I enjoyed The Wolverine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 The train action sequence just veered far too close to parody, I thought. It was entertaining for the wrong reasons given the serious tone of the film up to that point.Like the Skyfall train action sequence not fitting the gritty and realistic tone of that film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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