BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I was talking to our audio director about Star Wars and I made the mistake of saying "well for all the prequel flaws, Burtt's sound effects were at least amazing." Boy was that a mistake, it brought on the audio director tangent from hell.His point was this: even the sound design for the prequels was functional and nothing more. Name a single iconic sound from the prequels that isn't from the original trilogy.All I could think of were the annoying super-loud mines Jango Fett detonated in the AotC asteroid chase. Meanwhile on the original trilogy side: Darth Vader's breathing, the TIE Fighter roar, R2's beeps, the lightsaber hum, the blasters, the force-choke rumble, the Death Star alarm, the X-Wing sound, the AT-AT sound (ktcch-klunk!), Chewy's roar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 The only sounds I remember are the horrible processed voices: battle droids, super battle droids in Episode III (kill me), General Grievous, the midwife droid, and the Confederacy goons in Episode II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 All I could think of were the annoying super-loud mines Jango Fett detonated in the AotC asteroid chase. I liked that one. I don't remember anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 He's right Blume, your Audio Director is 100% correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylan345 3 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 What about the pod race sounds from the phantom menace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 If I remember correctly there are some cool sound effects for the spaceships during the Coruscant chase on AotC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 nothing really memorable, save the scene Blume mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 All I could think of were the annoying super-loud mines Jango Fett detonated in the AotC asteroid chase. I liked that one. I don't remember anything else.So do I. I still remember first watching that scene and it was awesomely over-the-top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 The recent work by the guy that I did find striking was WALL·E and Star Trek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Most of the sfx were recycled from the OT for the Prequels. Although I did like some of the Pod Race sfx as well as the Padme's big ship from the beginning of AOTC (the one that got destroyed). Oh and also the charges that Jango detonated in the asteroid field, those too were cool.Other than that....eh.Of course we can blame Ben Burtt for basically wanting his sfx to dominate Williams' music in the Prequels. He should never have had any say so in the mixing of the films after he made his sfx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max 141 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 It's difficult for me to choose one specific example, but I really enjoy the combination of music and sound effects in Revenge of the Sith. I think they go together beautifully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Hey I remember the hovering sound of the Trade Federation tanks thanks to the documentary where Burtt reveals that it was created by using a metallic mixing bowl and putting an electric shaver against it. BUZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz! Memorable as hell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 He was working within an existing sonic universe. Virtually all of his iconic sounds were created (in some form or another) for Star Wars, but that doesn't mean his work on the rest of the OT was less than exemplary, and same goes for the PT. For all its problems, the PT still had excellent sound design, most of which was based on Burtt's past Star Wars work.Highlights for me included that one Geonosian dude's speech, loads of new (but still Star Wars-y) vehicle sound effects, the seismic charges, Grievous's voice, and various creature effects. Are these achievements on the same level as what he did for Star Wars? Of course not. But considering the films he was working with, I'd say he did a damn fine job on the sound effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,349 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Audio guy: Name a single iconic sound from the prequels that isn't from the original trilogy? Yes, the sound of the pod racer.Next! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Hey, that's pre-Inception! Ben Burtt is to be blamed for that as well. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Ah the pod racer sounds were cool. I don't remember the Federation tanks sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Ah the pod racer sounds were cool. I don't remember the Federation tanks sound.You should have watched that documentary! It would be imbedded into your brain forever after that! Electric shaver on metallic mixing bowl! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,368 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Queen Amidala's Silver Blaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Being iconic or not depends on a myriad of factors not always related to the quality of the work inteself. But I must say I found his work on the creature sounds (the arena monsters, specially the lobster-like Acklay, and the Boga in ROTS), to be some of the most striking sound design I've heard Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max 141 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 that one Geonosian dude's speechI meant to mention Poggle the Lesser's voice. I thought it was very well done. Matthew Wood, who worked on *at least* Revenge of the Sith with Burtt, explained in a Clone Wars featurette how they used different animal sounds (penguin is the only one I remember specifically) to create his voice. I thought that was pretty neat.This video has a good sample of his voice, as well as other cool PT sound effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 I meant to mention Poggle the Lesser's voice. I thought it was very well done. Matthew Wood, who worked on *at least* Revenge of the Sith with Burtt, explained in a Clone Wars featurette how they used different animal sounds (penguin is the only one I remember specifically) to create his voice. I thought that was pretty neat. Ah yes, Poggle the Lesser, that's his name! As I recall from the AOTC features, there was a lot of sliced-and-diced human performance in there, too. (And Matthew Wood did work with Burtt on all three prequels.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,557 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 The pod race is a wonderful sequence to listen to. I especially like the low "chug-chug-chug" noise as Sebulba's pod catches-up with Anakin's. Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 The pod race is a wonderful sequence to listen to. I especially like the low "chug-chug-chug" noise as Sebulba's pod catches-up with Anakin's.Too bad they left out the music for most of it. For me, it only becomes exciting once the music kicks in.Before that, it just seems rather samey-samey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 the greatest trick in burrts sleeve was substituting the great Williams' "The Arena" cue for some bland percussion drums.well done pal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 I wish to hear that cue in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 the greatest trick in burrts sleeve was substituting the great Williams' "The Arena" cue for some bland percussion drums.Oooh, I liked the march there a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,441 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 The mines from the Jango chase were the first thing I thought of as well. Without looking at anyone else's answers:- Sebulba's podracer (my personal favorite)- The sound one of the dudes in the pod race makes when he's about to crash (can't think of his name)- Engines failing on Anakin's pod- Lasers impacting on the Gungan shields- Darth Maul calling those little flying droids out of his ship- Jango Fett's mines- Geonosian language- The sound Boga makes (my other favorite, I love Boga)- Lava sounds in RotSThere are probably others I'm not thinking of, but I think Burtt did a fantastic job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 the greatest trick in burrts sleeve was substituting the great Williams' "The Arena" cue for some bland percussion drums.Oooh, I liked the march there a lot.you mean burrt's cue? That's no march...If you mean the williams cue... the 1st half of it is dialed out and heavily edited afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 The percussion drums in the Arena...that aint music, it's just noise. Williams' music would have done very well for that sequence. Damn you Ben Burtt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorean90 42 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 When you revisit the initial "The Arena" sequence, it feels a bit...hollow? dull? without the music. It definitely would've helped it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 When you revisit the initial "The Arena" sequence, it feels a bit...hollow? dull? without the music. It definitely would've helped it.I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 But then it found a home in ROTS during a crucial sequence that required a robust and antagonistic march cue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 917 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 A lot of the Lightsaber SFX were new, not from the OT, though, right? I remember thinking they didn't sound as static as they did in the OT (I think literally the OT lightsaber sound effects consisted of about seven swing FX and three hit FX). For some reason I seem to remember the droideka blasters too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 But then it found a home in ROTS during a crucial sequence that required a robust and antagonistic march cue.Blah the tracking for the music was even worse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorean90 42 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Indeed."Let's see here, our hero is turned to the dark side, marching on his old home turf, leading troopers in to slaughter his former compatriots. What should we use? The Imperial March? The Emperor's Theme? Something like that?""What about that music for those monsters?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,515 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 What a weird topic. Time for a clean-up. TPM: ---Droidekas unfolding ---Droideka shields ---Droideka blasters ---Gungan steed noises ---Underwater giant fish sounds ---Pod racer engine sound fest ---Gungan shields charging ---Artillery effect on gungan force field ---Gungan bombs ---Amidala's blaster ---Naboo starfighter guns Overall sound design of droids, ships, and animals. All the little things. (droid flying minibikes, the mechanism that releases droids from a transporter) AOTC: ---Zam's blaster ---Jango's blasters ---Jango's ship engines ---seismic charges ---Geonosian vocalizations ---Geonosian blasters ---Acklay (arena mantis) ---LAAT engine sound Overall sound design in the Coruscant chase. ROTS: ---Vulture droid "speech" ---Droid Tri-fighter engines ---Magna Guard sound ---Lizard from Utapau vocalizations ---Palpatine howl I would say TPM is incredibly strong in this department (like in many others), and AOTC has some very cool elements. Only ROTS is rather bland. Giftheck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 917 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 12 minutes ago, First TROS March Accolyte said: What a weird topic. TPM: ---Droidekas unfolding ---Droideka shields ---Droideka blasters ---Gungan steed noises ---Underwater giant fish sounds ---Pod racer engine sound fest ---Gungan shields charging ---Gungan bombs ---Amidala's blaster Overall sound design of droids, ships, and animals. All the little things. AOTC: ---Zam's blaster ---Jango's blasters ---Jango's ship engines ---seismic charges ---Geonosian vocalizations ---Geonosian blasters ---LAAT engine sound Overall sound design in the Coruscant chase. ROTS: ---Vulture droid "speech" ---Droid Tri-fighter engines ---Magna Guard sound ---Lizard from Utapau sound Pretty much what I was thinking of too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 If the burden is to come up with sounds to rival the original Star Wars in quality and quantity, that's a tall order for any movie - and especially for a movie that is required to use those preexisting iconic sounds! Still, I can immediately hear podracer sounds or Jango's sonic bombs, even having not seen those movies for a decade. That's more iconic than any sound from, like, The Chronicles of Riddick or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,515 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 There is a nice video about it. It covers all Burtt films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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