Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Stefancos said: It's Commander Dickhead! Congratulations on the promotion, Dickie! mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 2 hours ago, crocodile said: Comedy and horror are more subjective than others. I can agree with that. Indeed. They're the most subjective of genres, and the former more than the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,530 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Isn't "comedy" being a painfully huge generalization part of that? There's all kinds of very different subgenres requiring different levels of intelligence, awareness, culture or taste. Black, morbid, grotesque, repetitive, visual, absurd, pun, toilet... Most pieces of comedic media use some kind of a mixture of a smaller selection or just one, and different people respond to differnet kinds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 That you can't or shouldn't be able to review a comedy is an absurd concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Also, for the best comedies there's more going on, more to dig into, than just jokes. Criticism isn't just about determining if something is good or bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Guys, just stop with this common sense. FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 What makes a "newer films" and "older films" for the purpose of these Last Movie You Watched? topic? Anyway, watched Blockers last weekend and it was a pretty good comedy - hit me in the soft spot that I have for coming-of-age teen comedies, and also functioned as a coming-of-age parent comedy which hit me in what is apparently a new soft spot. Also it had Gary Cole in a bit part which was performed almost exclusively nude. 1 hour ago, Holko said: Blasphemer! Every episode should be watched in full, the segways add a lot to the creative absurdity. Agreed - same with other sketch shows like Upright Citizens' Brigade and Mr. Show - each episode's sketches interlace and interact in a way that makes the whole much better than the parts. We watched a few all-time great Mr. Show sketches recently on YouTube for reasons, and they really suffer out of context. Live shows like SNL/MadTV don't usually suffer in the same way, because they've always been such a hodgepodge. I also don't particularly like SNL, except when they hit their absolute most absurd notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, mstrox said: What makes a "newer films" and "older films" for the purpose of these Last Movie You Watched? topic? Newer = in theaters now / just recently arrived on home video/streaming, Older = older than that. 2 minutes ago, mstrox said: Anyway, watched Blockers last weekend and it was a pretty good comedy - hit me in the soft spot that I have for coming-of-age teen comedies, and also functioned as a coming-of-age parent comedy which hit me in what is apparently a new soft spot. Also it had Gary Cole in a bit part which was performed almost exclusively nude. The movie was partially a gender-swapped American Pie and partially about the parents stupid quest, and was weaker than the sum of it's parts because it couldn't go too deep into either story since it had to keep swapping between the two. I would have preferred more of the kids and less of the parents. All three kid actors were really good and I suspect they'll have good careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Comedy definitely has the reputation as being extremely nebulous from a lay perspective: analyze a pretty flower, kill it in the process. While that's not inherently untrue, I would consider it very naive to believe that there's no way to view comedy critically. (Besides, haven't people been trashing The Simpsons for almost twenty years, now?) With comedian friends, and the way they nerd out about certain famous comedians, I can assure you that most (decent) comedians write their material with a process similar to how John Williams writes his themes: tweaking a joke multiple times to improve the timing, the climax or punchline, the inevitability of the joke, etc. To classify their efforts as "Eh, either it makes you laugh or it doesn't" is superficial and frankly disrepectful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Jay said: Newer = in theaters now / just recently arrived on home video/streaming, Older = older than that. The movie was partially a gender-swapped American Pie and partially about the parents stupid quest, and was weaker than the sum of it's parts because it couldn't go too deep into either story since it had to keep swapping between the two. I would have preferred more of the kids and less of the parents. All three kid actors were really good and I suspect they'll have good careers. Agreed - the parent story is a little weak - in the fact that none of the parents had ever considered and reconciled their children's transition in adulthood at all until prom night, etc. And the humor in their story was much more broad than the kids' side. I liked the arc between Ike Barenholtz and his daughter, as his intentions in "saving his daughter" were slightly better - and his character growth in the end was more related to his failings as a parent, and not based solely on his concern for his daughter's virginity. The kids were all great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,530 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 16 minutes ago, mstrox said: Agreed - same with other sketch shows like Upright Citizens' Brigade and Mr. Show - each episode's sketches interlace and interact in a way that makes the whole much better than the parts. We watched a few all-time great Mr. Show sketches recently on YouTube for reasons, and they really suffer out of context. One of my favourite Python examples is the Fish-Slapping Dance, which is the one sketch all Pythons share as a favourite (or at least all thought it was worthy of including in the first best of collection). If you watch it on its own, it's just a piece of nonsense. If it's in the middle of the episode, it hits you with its nonsensicalness by coming out of nowhere and you can't help but laugh at the absurdity of what you've just witnessed after it already swiftly moved on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Nick Parker said: Comedy definitely has the reputation as being extremely nebulous from a lay perspective: analyze a pretty flower, kill it in the process. While that's not inherently untrue, I would consider it very naive to believe that there's no way to view comedy critically. With comedian friends, and the way they nerd out about certain famous comedians, I can assure you that most (decent) comedians write their material with a process similar to how John Williams writes his themes. To classify their hard work as "Eh, either it makes you laugh or it doesn't" is superficial and frankly disrepectful. There certainly is a craft to jokes that should be respected, but I must admit I don't personally find it very interesting to dive into those wonky details. I prefer criticism that basically analyzes around the jokes, diving into the themes, performances, mise-en-scene, and whatever. Like, an essay that intelligently talks about Beverly Hills Cop subverting cop drama tropes and underlying themes of racism in policing rich suburbs vs. inner city, stuff like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, mstrox said: Agreed - the parent story is a little weak - in the fact that none of the parents had ever considered and reconciled their children's transition in adulthood at all until prom night, etc. And the humor in their story was much more broad than the kids' side. I liked the arc between Ike Barenholtz and his daughter, as his intentions in "saving his daughter" were slightly better - and his character growth in the end was more related to his failings as a parent, and not based solely on his concern for his daughter's virginity. The kids were all great. Yup Morgan and the lesbian daughter was definitely the best storyline. Apatow's wife and the blonde was the weakest, and Cena's was in the middle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 15 minutes ago, Jay said: Newer = in theaters now / just recently arrived on home video/streaming, Older = older than that. The movie was partially a gender-swapped American Pie and partially about the parents stupid quest, and was weaker than the sum of it's parts because it couldn't go too deep into either story since it had to keep swapping between the two. I would have preferred more of the kids and less of the parents. All three kid actors were really good and I suspect they'll have good careers. The older/newer is just an OCD nightmare. It is absolutely retarded. One thread is all thats needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Disco Stu said: There certainly is a craft to jokes that should be respected, but I must admit I don't personally find it very interesting to dive into those wonky details. I prefer criticism that basically analyzes around the jokes, diving into the themes, performances, mise-en-scene, and whatever. Like, an essay that intelligently talks about Beverly Hills Cop subverting cop drama tropes and underlying themes of racism in policing rich suburbs vs. inner city, stuff like that. I guess I was referring to more "naked" comedy (my comedian friends are all involved with stand-up, stage performances, etc.). As a piece of cinema, I can agree that I personally enjoy thinking more about the aspects you describe (though like in the case of the essay you mention, I should make an addendum to say that not all comedic analysis is of course as microcosmic or esoteric as my previous post might suggest, in a way similar to that there are more ways to analyze Raider's March than discussing "A-B structure", etc.). In fact, the ingredients you describe are why I don't watch modern comedy movies much, like the average Melissa McCarthy movie: not only are they unfunny joke conveyor belts, but they're just so bland and uninteresting as films...really makes me miss the maestros like Blake Edwards and Joe Dante. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, Nick Parker said: In fact, the ingredients you describe are why I don't watch modern comedy movies much Comedies that are also interesting movies are indeed few and far between. Wes Anderson is probably the current master of that for me. I think his movies are laugh-out-loud funny, but his humor's not for everyone. The funniest comedy that was also an interesting movie I've seen recently is Paddington 2! John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Comedies that are also interesting movies are indeed few and far between. Wes Anderson is probably the current master of that for me. I think his movies are laugh-out-loud funny, but his humor's not for everyone. The funniest comedy that was also an interesting movie I've seen recently is Paddington 2! Eh, Wes Anderson either is funny to some, or not funny to others. No reason to review his movies, really. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 What genre is for everyone, really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: What genre is for everyone, really? Marvel! The whole world is a happy place with Marvel genre films. ☺️ ☺️ ☺️ ☺️ 🙃 🙃 🙃 mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, Nick Parker said: Marvel! The whole world is a happy place with Marvel genre films. ☺️ ☺️ ☺️ ☺️ 🙃 🙃 🙃 Don't like Marvel films all that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Just now, Steve McQueen said: Don't like Marvel films all that much. Do you know what normal is, Steve? Normal is what everyone else is and you are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Nick Parker said: Do you know what normal is, Steve? Normal is what everyone else is and you are not. Why, thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,552 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Stefancos said: It's Commander Dickhead! I love a man in uniform. After you, with the soap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,552 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 If memory serves, that gif is from CARRY ON DON'T LOOSE YOUR HEAD. I don't think it had a matron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Set it Up - Solid Netflix original film (rare for me to say that). It's actually pretty funny, and entertaining. Also between this and Everybody Wants Some, Glen Powell is becoming one of my favorite of the current "young actors". He's really good. - 7 / 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 11 hours ago, Richard said: If memory serves, that gif is from CARRY ON DON'T LOOSE YOUR HEAD. I don't think it had a matron. Blame Google! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,363 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Tag - reasonably amusing based-on-a-true-story comedy about a group of buddies who have kept the titular game going between themselves for the month of May ... for 30 years. With Ed Helms, Jon Hamm, Isla Fisher and Jeremy Renner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 The Legacy of a Whitetail Deer Hunter - Really offbeat "black comedy" of sorts, set in and around North Carolina. Not sure I really enjoyed it, but I did like the father / son relationship, and Josh Brolin is great (though I'm definitely feeling a bit Brolin overload this year), I guess I appreciated it for what it is was, even if in all honesty it only got some laughs out of me. - 6 / 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 The Man Who Invented Christmas. Its my Christmas in July treat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Fancyarcher said: The Legacy of a Whitetail Deer Hunter - Really offbeat "black comedy" of sorts, set in and around North Carolina. Not sure I really enjoyed it, but I did like the father / son relationship, and Josh Brolin is great (though I'm definitely feeling a bit Brolin overload this year), I guess I appreciated it for what it is was, even if in all honesty it only got some laughs out of me. - 6 / 10 I thought this one looked pretty good. Not sure if it’s playing anywhere near me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 More like “A Stinkle in Time.” Don’t forget to smash that like button. SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,552 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 On 7/14/2018 at 2:36 AM, JoeinAR said: The Man Who Invented Christmas. Its my Christmas in July treat. Why not watch DIE HARD, a real Christmas-in-July treat? Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Ant-man and the Wasp So much fun! Go see it if all you’re looking for is a great time at the movies. Great humor, a surprisingly compelling villain, and standout acting; the chemistry between Rudd and Lilly practically leaps off the screen. I had my occasionally nitpicks with the movie, but overall, it’s a noticeable improvement over its predecessor, and just a really funny and likable addition to the MCU. I feel really invested in these characters, and I can’t wait to see more of them. **** and 1/2 out of ***** Chen G. and Fancyarcher 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 15 minutes ago, John said: Ant-man and the Wasp So much fun! Go see it if all you’re looking for is a great time at the movies. Great humor, a surprisingly compelling villain, and standout acting; the chemistry between Rudd and Lilly practically leaps off the screen. I had my occasionally nitpicks with the movie, but overall, it’s a noticeable improvement over its predecessor, and just a really funny and likable addition to the MCU. I feel really invested in these characters, and I can’t wait to see more of them. **** and 1/2 out of ***** I didn't like it this much but it was a pleasant, breezy surprise. The action was also surprisingly good. That Frisco car chase was a ton of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,722 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 48 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I didn't like it this much but it was a pleasant, breezy surprise. The action was also surprisingly good. That Frisco car chase was a ton of fun. If you're ever in San Francisco, for your own sake, please, don't call it "Frisco". Or next time you vanish from this place we probably won't hear from you again. mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: If you're ever in San Francisco, for your own sake, please, don't call it "Frisco". Or next time you vanish from this place we probably won't hear from you again. Gives "I Left My Heart in San Francisco" a whole new meaning! Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 They call it Fran San now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 4 hours ago, mstrox said: More like “A Stinkle in Time.” Don’t forget to smash that like button. Suscribe if you want to see more content from mstrox! mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,363 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Incredibles 2 - almost as much fun as the original (after I moved away from the family seemingly treating the cinema as some sort of fucking indoor picnic area, that is. It was an 11:00 am screening, couldn't they have had breakfast before turning up? GAH). Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Sorry to Bother You - Ambitiously strong satire about capitalism and corruption, set in the near future. Lakeith Stanfield is a great lead, and the film is really funny, and witty. Unfortunately it falls apart at the end, when it gets too heavy in its message. That being said, it overall is a very confidently made film, and for a first feature Boots Riley shows a lot of promise. It also gets really crazy, which I admire. Good stuff. - 7.5 / 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 10 hours ago, Richard said: Why not watch DIE HARD, a real Christmas-in-July treat? Because as much as I love Die Hard, A Christmas Carol is simply the greatest tale of all time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,552 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Personally, I've not heard of THWIC. I'll check it out. I like to watch DIE HARD on Christmas Eve. It's simply the greatest Christmas film ever made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 There are many films with the title of greatest Christmas movie ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 The Fellowship Of The Ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,552 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 That's what me and a few friends do on Christmas Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 A new version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 I always make sure to watch the George C. Scott version of A Christmas Carol around that time of year. It's my personal favorite adaptation of the story.. Great score, too. Naïve Old Fart and filmmusic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 455 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Ant-Man and the Wasp It's fun and inconsequential, but also annoying at times (Michael Pena one chief example). Rudd and Lily are reliably good, Hannah John-Kamen is a conflicted villain, Walter Goggins phones in another villain role, and both Michael Douglas and Michelle Pfeiffer are underused. Pfeiffer looks amazing, both as her 1988 de-aged self and her 2018 Janet. But during portions of the film, I lost interest in "finding Janet" subplot as well as the lab being stolen by two different villains. But this film reminds me how B-list Ant-Man is. As cool as his powers and character line-ups are, it's a bit too niche and silly. Another overrated MCU film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 I liked Pena in this one. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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