EdwardHall 30 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 We all have our "off" days. I nominate "Training Montage" from SpaceCamp. Oh, and "Departmental Pride and the Cat" from "The Towering Inferno" is the most unintentionally funny name for a cue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 The one from Tintin that sounds like it was temp tracked with Zimmer. Gnome in Plaid and Ricard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Which one are you referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Red Rum or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 You mean "Red Rackham's Curse"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,550 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 "Pick 'Em Up" is pretty lousy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamsStarShip2282 308 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 The entire Heartbeeps score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score 770 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 "We don't wanna grow up", followed by both versions of the finale from ROTJ (the Ewok stuff - "Yub Nub" or however it is called - and the Victory Celebration)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,515 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Oh, there are many. But in the end, it would be a few tracks from JOHN GOLDFARB, PLEASE COME HOME. At some point, the happy-go-lucky Arab jazz music becomes grating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Banning Back Home, and a couple from War Horse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,837 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 The entire Heartbeeps scoreMaybe you're influenced by the movie?That score is very well crafted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,515 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 HEARTBEEPS is campy, both film and score, but great fun nonetheless! It would not be on my 'worst' list. While the cue itself is great, I also don't think the sugary Americana over Anthonly Hopkins' court speech in AMISTAD is particularly good. It hammers in the point too much.So there are at least two ways to see this -- one the musical cue itself (independent of the film), and second how a cue works in a movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Theme from Jurassic Park.The 1960's: The Turbulent YearsWar HorseAmistadRosewood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,515 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Theme from Jurassic Park.The 1960's: The Turbulent YearsWar HorseAmistadRosewood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Hook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 This thread won't be an intentional bait for controversy at all. But still, since we're on the subject....Theme from The Man Who Loved Cat Dancing.Still, fair fair, I don't think it's absolutely dreadful, it has some merits here and there. But it's a weak theme, and I don't like the orchestration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Padme's Ruminations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Augie's Great Municipal Band Most of HOOK (except Banning Back Home and a few others highlights) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I love Banning Back Home! He surely showed folks like Dave Grusin how it should be done. Why can't Williams write a whole CD like that?! Arpy and Sharkissimo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 The End Titles for Jaws.Just kidding . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,550 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I love Banning Back Home! He surely showed folks like Dave Grusin how it should be done. Why can't Williams write a whole CD like that?! "Banning Back Home" (either version) is the best thing Dave Grusin never wrote!No love for "Rosewood", or "1960s TTY"? I used to like you. Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Augie's Great Municipal Band, I approve! Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 The one from Tintin that sounds like it was temp tracked with Zimmer.I like that cue quite a bit. It's like Pirates of the Caribbean minus everything bad about Pirates of the Caribbean.As for me, I'd probably choose Fluffy's Harp. With so many great cues left off of the album, I find it baffling that they decided to keep this in. The "future techno rock music" in The Moon Rising is also horrendous. His worst scored cue for me is the music for John Quincy Adams' introduction in Amistad. It's so overbearing that even I have a problem with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I stand by all of Hook being meh, but more recently, Tintin was also somewhat bland and un-engaging beyond the opening piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Probably something from None But The Brave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Is it really fair to count any of his "Johnny Williams" work though? Besides a couple of notable exceptions like "The Reivers" and "Heidi", it's consistently inferior to his "John Williams" work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I love Banning Back Home! He surely showed folks like Dave Grusin how it should be done. Why can't Williams write a whole CD like that?! It's far too cheesy for me, a slice of twee suburban Americana which just turns me off. I much prefer Grusin in that mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Across the stars or battle of the heros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Yeah, I think Williams had all but lost interest in George Lucas' weak prequels by the time he got to the climax of the final movie. The melody is lame and the choral design completely pedestrian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Across the Stars is great. Battle of the Heroes, not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 The BOTH melody is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I don't mind Across the Stars, it's a bit like James Cameron wrote a love theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I'm probably the only one here who prefers Battle of the Heroes to both Duel of the Fates and Across the Stars. Yes the melody is simple, but that's its strength - it's like plainsong or organum with 20th century harmonies. Love the John Adamsish flourishes as well. I will say though, I prefer the variations in The Boys Continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Whatever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I don't mind Across the Stars, it's a bit like James Cameron wrote a love theme.I think you mean James Horner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I'm probably the one here who prefers Battle of the Heroes to both Duel of the Fates and Across the Stars. Yes the melody is simple, but that's its strength - it's like plainsong or organum with atop 20th century harmonies. Love the John Adamsish flourishes as well.I can get into it if I'm in the right mood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 The melody doesn't work for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 In a way, Duel of the Fates kind of reminds me of Hedwig's Theme (with the main motif in the brass near the beginning), only without the low strings and orchestration that otherwise separates the two.Speaking of which, any opinions on Hedwig's Theme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 It's brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I don't mind Across the Stars, it's a bit like James Cameron wrote a love theme. I think you mean James Horner.No I mean James Cameron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 That makes no sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 That makes no sense!I agree. James Cameron can't write music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Satire. A British concept. Sharkissimo and Glóin the Dark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 God save the Queen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 In a way, Duel of the Fates kind of reminds me of Hedwig's Theme (with the main motif in the brass near the beginning), only without the low strings and orchestration that otherwise separates the two.Speaking of which, any opinions on Hedwig's Theme?I can see what you're getting at, but Grievous's Theme from ROTS reminds me much more of Hedwig's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Padme's RuminationsAlso sounds like it was temp tracked with Zimmer or one of those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 In a way, Duel of the Fates kind of reminds me of Hedwig's Theme (with the main motif in the brass near the beginning), only without the low strings and orchestration that otherwise separates the two.Speaking of which, any opinions on Hedwig's Theme?I can see what you're getting at, but Grievous's Theme from ROTS reminds me much more of Hedwig's.In what ways? Next to Hedwig's Theme, Grievous' Theme has far more brass, pitched percussion, extended techniques in the strings, and...and a driving tempo, and...and...Um..................You were telling a joke, weren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 In a way, Duel of the Fates kind of reminds me of Hedwig's Theme (with the main motif in the brass near the beginning), only without the low strings and orchestration that otherwise separates the two. Speaking of which, any opinions on Hedwig's Theme? I can see what you're getting at, but Grievous's Theme from ROTS reminds me much more of Hedwig's. In what ways? Next to Hedwig's Theme, Grievous' Theme has far more brass, pitched percussion, extended techniques in the strings, and... I wasn't thinking of the orchestration... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Whoops. I was listening to this... You said "theme," so I went with it.Anyway, the similarities are, at best, superfluous. The melody appears in the brass, sure, but it deviates with heavy string runs, snare drum in the percussion, and the choir.Overall, the orchestration is what differentiates it from Hedwig's Theme, but I can see how you drew the comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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