nightscape94 965 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 7 hours ago, Taikomochi said: Except most Star Wars fans love the prequel scores. You'd figure that even a half-competent exec with half a brain would know that if any movie is going to sell it's fucking Star Wars. 7 hours ago, Jay said: Then in 30 years we'll get the unused alternates in a Matessino-produced 3CD set True fans won't rest until we get the 80 second first teaser music! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Wouldn't it be lovely if Disney milked the score dry with a multitude of releases each containing new tracks and exclusive material? We can dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 If this movie becomes the biggest selling movie of all time (it's almost guaranteed to be at least second, it'll get over a billion by the end of the week) then they would be absolutely foolish not to capitalize on releasing an expanded score next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdown 238 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Why's that? Avatar has one release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Didn't the sessions leak for that though? And regardless of what I think of Horner's regurgitated score, it was still foolish to not release an official expanded. Everyone would have picked it up anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Avatar actually had a deluxe edition soundtrack after the OST, though it only had something like 4 extra cues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 And they were all synth demos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdown 238 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I very much hope that there will be an expanded release, I mean, we've gotten one for all of Giacchino's Star Treks which is surprising, but great. I know they're two different studios, but I hope Disney doesn't overlook this opportunity, and provides us with the film's complete full score (not necessarily all the unused music, because that would have to be some 3 or 4 disc set..), along with all the concert arrangements. It would be the best way to release this in my opinion. And yes, everything you could possibly want for Avatar is indeed 'out there'. It's crazy the same has not occurred for specific films, sagas, etc. On 12/23/2015 at 1:21 AM, Koray Savas said: Avatar actually had a deluxe edition soundtrack after the OST, though it only had something like 4 extra cues. On 12/23/2015 at 1:31 AM, Taikomochi said: And they were all synth demos. Yeah, so I hope The Force Awakens Deluxe soundtrack would not be similar to Avatar's, even though I love that score so much. And let's pray it won't be like TPM's Ultimate Edition, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 15 hours ago, Jay said: Even if the 2CD set doesn't have all the unused original versions of cues, if it simply has the final version of each cue in complete form with no edits, from the beginning of the movie to the end, followed by the four concert arrangements, that'd be a great 2CD set. Then in 30 years we'll get the unused alternates in a Matessino-produced 3CD set Hey that set would be enough until Mike M. did his magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 An Ultimate Edition of TFA would not be so bad because the score isn't hacked to bits to the extent the Prequels were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 8 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: It's just another case of Williams being lazy. That hack! 3 hours ago, Stefancos said: An Ultimate Edition of TFA would not be so bad because the score isn't hacked to bits to the extent the Prequels were. It would still suck to lose the chance of getting everything as written. And you know it. Please, no UE-style debacle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 This FYC already is like the Ultimate Edition of TPM, just not complete. But it's exactly what's heard in the film, unchanged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris ChrusherComix 46 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 As bad as the "UE" was (and boy I remember we all were so pumped to get it then threw an absolute hissy fit temper tantrum about it being almost an isolated score), it's still nowhere near as bad as... well... NOTHING. Like we got for the other two Prequels. If it not for video games, it'd be woefully pathetic. Especially Sith. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 The TPM UE was a blessing because the sound quality was so good and it had so much music that hadn't turned up in games yet. But Lucas had edited the score in the final cut of the film so much, it was just painful to listen to in parts. A similar release for TFA wouldn't be that painful, but of course we'd prefer them to hire a producer who will go through the untouched session tracks, and not take anything directly from the film's audio track. Chris ChrusherComix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I'll agree that the TPM UE had great sound and a wealth of gorgeous previously unreleased material. But from a producer's standpoint, it was an absolute fuck-up. I always cringe when I see people going "well, I'd settle for another UE-style release just to get more music..." If they're going to put out an expanded soundtrack that'll likely cost about $30, I'd like it to be done properly. Especially if you consider that every botched attempt at an expanded release means it's unlikely we'll get a proper release within the next decade or so. And especially if you consider how unusual expanded Star Wars releases have become. I don't know what Disney's strategy is going to be, but Sony has practically ignored the UE, coasted on the OST's for the prequel trilogies and has been repackaging the RCA/Victor releases since 2004. It's time to do the next expansion properly! Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Yes. I hope Disney hires a producer who knows what he's doing to produce any future editions after each OST (I'm totally fine with the composer arranging each OST the way he likes) Chris ChrusherComix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 I wonder if the current 2CD rumour is just a confusion based on the upcoming LP release - I believe there's a 2LP album coming out, right? But... Even before I saw Pope's post and the comments (and this thread, which I only read just now), I've considered that a sooner rather than later expansion for TFA might be more likely than for most other JW or SW scores. Consider Giacchino's Trek scores, which have had timely expansions on Varese of all labels. In case Abrams was in any capacity involved in making this happen, he might also encourage a TFA expansion. And while I don't think there's any chance of Intrada handling this (Disney will surely want to do it on their own), their relationship with Disney and Matessino's relationship with Williams might just help making it real. (And if it does well, it might even help eventual expansions/remasters of the other 6 scores down the road). Chris ChrusherComix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 I loved the TPM:UE. I wish we could have something like that for the other 2 prequels, and I hope we get it for TFA. Bilbo and Chris ChrusherComix 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,109 Posted December 26, 2015 Author Share Posted December 26, 2015 Hi Guys, Sorry been busy this past week. Im trying to find the post on facebook. Its either been deleted or I possibly read it on some other Musicians page. But It was definitely where I read it. Let me find it and get back to you... UPDATE: here it is: Michael Trig There is a full score 2 CD set For The Force Awakens coming in the first quarter of 2016. That I know for a fact. And no, I can't tell you how I know, else the person giving me that info won't tell me anymore. Now based on ONLY my opinion, I don't think there were any Expanded versions of Attack Of The Clones or Revenge Of The Sith because of the fan outcry over not liking the movies. No matter how much we soundtrack/score enthusiasts love our full score collections, some companies won't put that kind of money behind expanded releases for films that are so widely hated by the very fans that would make up their sales demographic. Found the post: But it was posted elsewhere on Intrada Soundtrack Club facebook page. Here is the scoop: As I said it earlier its not confirmed. Since there were many postings on the cd that period of time,I thought it was Conrad Popes .But its not. Still we can ássume' if this is legitimate or not depending whose source this insider guys is? Scarpia and Chris ChrusherComix 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 TPM UE doesn't sound muddy like the OST, but it's dynamically compressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 5 minutes ago, E.T. and Elliot said: TPM UE doesn't sound muddy like the OST, but it's dynamically compressed. Are you sure about that? I find it's puncher and of course far less reverby than the OST. It almost reminds me of the sound quality of Ifukube's 1990s Godzilla scores from Toshiba/Futureland, and those are my go-to reference discs. Chris ChrusherComix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 It's too loud. http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/6007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 It has some suspect bad tracks, but has an overall good rating of 12. The only real way of knowing for certain would be to do a waveform comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 The OST has superior dynamic range, but the UE has a superior drier sound. I'm being torn apart! Chris ChrusherComix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,109 Posted December 26, 2015 Author Share Posted December 26, 2015 update: see my above post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Yes, I already posted that in the fifth post on this page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I'm too pretty sure we're gonna get an expanded 2 CD set much sooner than we expect. I just hope it'll be produced and assembled with the supervision of some insightful and caring person, btw... crumbs and Chris ChrusherComix 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 I feel like there is only one person who can do justice to any expanded JW score. Mike M. is the chosen one. Chris ChrusherComix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarpia 132 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 I think he is involved in a Star Wars related project, judging from the JWFAN exclusive interview where he said an "Imperial Decree" impeded him from talking about any future releases. Chris ChrusherComix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Well exactly, he wouldn't say he's forbidden from talking about it unless he's signed a contract forbidding him from discussing it! Put two and two together. As for the prequels, Disney won't wait until Sony's contract expires to start working on it. They'd be getting those prepped in advance to allow for a release the week Sony's ownership finishes. The recording sessions are owned and stored at Lucasfilm, after all. Scarpia and Chris ChrusherComix 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarpia 132 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 You are right. Is not that they can't work with the material. They just cannot do a commercial release until Sony's contract expires. I'm sure new releases are in the works, at least on the first stages. Chris ChrusherComix and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I hope so! Chris ChrusherComix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris ChrusherComix 46 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 According to Facebook that Michael Trig guy only lives a 3 hour drive from me. Perhaps I'll pay him a visit and extract the info from his skull like Kylo Ren. And fail like Kylo Ren did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarpia 132 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 5 hours ago, Chris ChrusherComix said: According to Facebook that Michael Trig guy only lives a 3 hour drive from me. Perhaps I'll pay him a visit and extract the info from his skull like Kylo Ren. And fail like Kylo Ren did. You can always go back to the basics! Chris ChrusherComix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Was the FSM user "jfallon" related to this rumor? Because he posted this there yesterday: "Ashamed to admit my source was a Best Buy rep. When he searched for the Force Awakens album in the store last month he saw on his computer that there was another 2cd Awakens release set for Jan." http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=96000&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=17&r=471#bottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Suckers! crumbs and Smeltington 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jfallon 0 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Yup that was me though I didn't start the rumor. Guess I am a sucker and that Best Buy guy knew it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Well at least it was our "luckiest" JW release in years. 77 minutes non repeated music OST and FYC promo a few days after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Where I come from, there's no such thing as luckiest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwfan2234 59 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 I am new is a 2 disk Force Awakens soudntrack coming out or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jfallon 0 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Agreed. To have gotten some unreleased cues within the same month as a new Star Wars score is unheard of. Still want more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 You just know that somewhere out there, the recording sessions are probably all uploaded in someone's iCloud account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwfan2234 59 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 When is it coming out??.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Unfortunately, so far we know of no such release, bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwfan2234 59 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 So it is not coming out or was it confirmed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 5 minutes ago, Jwfan2234 said: So it is not coming out or was it confirmed? Is everything not proceeding as you had forseen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwfan2234 59 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Ha ha what is the answer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 42. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 ''47 is 42, corrected for inflation.'' - Rick Berman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 58 minutes ago, Jwfan2234 said: Ha ha what is the answer? The Dark Side clouds everything, impossible to see, the future is. In other words, no news yet Jwfan2234. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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