King Mark 3,631 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 ah, don't have a spotify account . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 I guess you'll never get to hear it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Here ya go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 not sure why it says Video not available. Im in canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 https://www.amazon.com/Greatest-Science-Fiction-Hits-IV/dp/B00000FYJS Try here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 I can only play a 30 second clip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Then, um...uh...buy the CD? Someone help this dope out here! I can't have someone not be able to hear a fantastic cover of the other greatest John Williams theme! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 this sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 907 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 3 hours ago, King Mark said: Anyways I'm still miffed this c.d. doesn't containThe Lost World theme. We'll never get an official Williams conducted version. There's a few recordings on compliation c.d.'s by other orchestras but it's nowhere near the (awful sounding bootleg) Williams conducted one from 1997 in Japan I think He also conducted it at his London concerts in 1998 with the LSO. The concert hall shook and I half expected a T-Rex to appear and eat everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Well, he did conduct the theme on the OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 It's a fantastic piece of music, completely unique in his oeuvre. What a shame he seems so disinterested in revisiting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 6 hours ago, King Mark said: I went to Shibuya records in one of my video games (Digimon Cybersleuth) Anyways I'm still miffed this c.d. doesn't containThe Lost World theme. We'll never get an official Williams conducted version. There's a few recordings on compliation c.d.'s by other orchestras but it's nowhere near the (awful sounding bootleg) Williams conducted one from 1997 in Japan I think You probably mean London 1998. Williams last travel to Japan was in 1993. For the LSO 1998 concerts there is indeed a audience recording, made on good old analogue tape, that have been floating around since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 15 hours ago, Matt S. said: Was listening to this again the other day... Am I crazy, or did the bass player (Michael Valerio) throw in a deliberate reference to Beethoven's 9th during his long solo cadenza during the "Reflections" movement of Escapades? Listen from 6:29 until 6:35....that sounds like an explicit reference to the recitative-like bass line that appears at the beginning of the fourth movement of the symphony. Does anyone know if the bass cadenza was written out by Williams, or improvised by Valerio? The Signature Edition of the Escapades score doesn't have a bass cadenza at all, but we know Williams frequently tinkers and rewrites his concert versions of concertos, so maybe he wrote it out? This is the only version of Escapades that I own, so I can't check any of the others that have been made. (It's entirely possible that I'm crazy, but now that I've heard it, I can't UN-hear it!) I think it's a very conscious reference. We still don't know if the whole bass cadenza is an improv by Valerio or if it was written out as such by JW. The current Signature Edition available on Hal Leonard is still the original version, but JW made several alterations to "Reflections" (especially in the harmony, now it's even more jazz-like) as one can hear in both the 2013 Dudamel concert and the 2017 Spielberg/Williams Vol.3 recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Since the reference to Beethoven's 9th is so clear I'm guessing it's written by JW himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alawill75 39 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Don't know if this has been posted yet or if it is of any interest, but here's a video of Martin Grubinger talking about being invited by John Williams (in German). Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 1 hour ago, TownerFan said: I think it's a very conscious reference. We still don't know if the whole bass cadenza is an improv by Valerio or if it was written out as such by JW. The current Signature Edition available on Hal Leonard is still the original version, but JW made several alterations to "Reflections" (especially in the harmony, now it's even more jazz-like) as one can hear in both the 2013 Dudamel concert and the 2017 Spielberg/Williams Vol.3 recording. If you remember Robert deMaine interview about performing the Williams' Cello Concerto, he mentioned that Williams didn't want him to go too freely in the cadenza, following what is on the paper. With that in thought, I would honestly assume that the Escapades bass cadenza was Williams work alone. Jurassic Shark and TownerFan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Yes, that's what I think too. He probably wanted to give a spotlight to the bass soloist in the suite. Miguel Andrade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Muffling and noise in Escapades and Marion's Theme. Gets on my nerves for an otherwise brilliant recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Just focus on the music! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 I can't when it literally sounds like someone brushing on a microphone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 I love that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 You're something of a sadomasochist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 It makes the recording more realistic and relatable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 So Part 3 still isn't available as a standalone c.d. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 I just bought the box set containing all three. It was cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 It's also in the conductor box, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 crlbrg and Dr. Rick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 I remember watching that before but I appreciate you posting that, such a fantastic rendition of this theme! I hope there's an expanded release in the works for Amistad in the near future! crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 So , does anyone think this is NOT a great sounding recording? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,440 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 I guess it does sound kind of slick, or "soft" to me. Is it a reverb thing? Not sure if I'm describing it right. I don't have a big problem with it though. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 I very honestly feel that this is the best sounding JW album ever recorded. Just something like the sound of the pizzicato basses in “A New Beginning” .... *melts* bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Alright! Okay!. There is at least ONE person on this tone deaf board whose opinion I can trust regarding sound quality!😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,109 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Can anyone elaborate how many other pieces were reocrded at the III album's sessions at Royce Hall and not included in this set. rumors were that WAR OF THE WORLD & CLOSE ENCOUNTERS were recoerded. For War of the Worlds-Iam hoping it was the Concert Arrangment of 'Escape from the City' which Williams also performed at a Concert in Boston (I think) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Why would something from Close Encounters have been recorded? Was something not already covered on the Vol 1 release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,109 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 45 minutes ago, crumbs said: Why would something from Close Encounters have been recorded? Was something not already covered on the Vol 1 release? Youre surprised too? So was Spielberg. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,440 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 6 hours ago, bruce marshall said: Alright! Okay!. There is at least ONE person on this tone deaf board whose opinion I can trust regarding sound quality!😁 More than one... when this came out, there were a lot of people who thought it sounded great. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 47 minutes ago, crumbs said: Why would something from Close Encounters have been recorded? Was something not already covered on the Vol 1 release? They finally identified the sixth note of the theme. 1 minute ago, Smeltington said: More than one... when this came out, there were a lot of people who thought it sounded great. It's the instrumental balance in some of the tracks that's the album's main problem. crlbrg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,440 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 You're a picky one, Mr. Shark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Amer said: Youre surprised too? So was Spielberg. 😂 Not sure I understand. Williams wrote a new suite for CE3K, recorded it, and didn't release it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Smeltington said: You're a picky one, Mr. Shark. You're just forgetting about it, I'm sure you've noticed it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,109 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 1 minute ago, crumbs said: Not sure I understand. Williams wrote a new suite for CE3K, recorded it, and didn't release it? All I know it was recorded. Probably a revision or a new piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,440 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Haha no I'm less attuned to those things. Being able to pick that out must be a gift and a curse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Smeltington said: Haha no I'm less attuned to those things. Being able to pick that out must be a gift and a curse! I'm not especially attuned to it either. But there's a few very obvious examples, let me try and find them. EDIT: apologies, I was thinking about the Keith Lockhard album. #embarrassed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 I was about to say.... I really can find no fault with the sound of this album. It's perfect! Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 You can say that again. 10 hours ago, Disco Stu said: I very honestly feel that this is the best sounding JW album ever recorded. Just something like the sound of the pizzicato basses in “A New Beginning” .... *melts* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Yeah, this is news to me as well. The Catch Me If You Can suite sounds superb, as does the Amistad track. Better than the original soundtrack! 9 minutes ago, Amer said: All I know it was recorded. Probably a revision or a new piece. I'd like to think The Lost World and something from A.I. were recorded as well. Such absurd omissions, all things considered. Holko and Disco Stu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Not to get too controversial, but if the edict was that this had to stay 1 disc, I'd remove "Marion's Theme," "Immigration and Building," and the second "With Malice Toward None." I would add "Where Dreams Are Born," "The Lost World," and "The Long Road to Justice." crumbs and Holko 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Not to get too controversial, but if the edict was that this had to stay 1 disc, I'd remove "Marion's Theme," "Immigration and Building," and the second "With Malice Toward None." I would add "Where Dreams Are Born," "The Lost World," and "The Long Road to Justice." They still had 10 minutes spare. They could have added 2 of those without removing anything. But if you added WOTW as well... hmm. I could do without the Immigration track. There's already a surplus of Americana with all the Lincoln material. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, crumbs said: There's already a surplus of Americana More! More! More! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 There's plenty of material to justify a fourth volume in the next few years. Hopefully Steven's been giving it some thought. The Presses Roll The Lost World Where Dreams Are Born Abandoned in the Woods Escape from the City Cinque's Theme The Long Road to Justice (is this a concert suite?) Irina's Theme (concert version) Face of Pan (revised version) Stargazers (new E.T. suite) There's probably other revised concert arrangements I'm forgetting. Maybe JW's done some other new arrangements during iso? Hard to believe it's now been longer since the last Spielberg/Williams collaboration than the gap between Munich and Crystal Skull (which felt like an eternity at the time, though Crystal Skull > Tintin/War Horse was far worse). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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