Arpy 4,145 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 This set should've been released three years ago for the 20th Anniversary. Chris ChrusherComix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,417 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 19 hours ago, Josh500 said: La-La Land Records did an incredible job on the Home Alone scores, Empire of the Sun, and A.I. I hope they continue that tradition with the Harry Potter scores, Star Wars prequels and Indiana Jones scores (unlikely but who knows?), Minority Report, etc. The Star Wars and Indiana Jones scores are Lucasfilm, now owned by Disney, so only Intrada could expand those (or, more likely, Disney will expand them on their own record label). LLL could do the Harry Potters if WB decides to license them out to them, and they could do Minority Report if Fox and Dreamworks do the same. Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,417 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 17 hours ago, crumbs said: Matessino did Jaws and Jaws 2 with Intrada just 12 months ago, six months after doing A.I. with La La Land. You'd be surprised the amount of time that can pass between when a producer assembles his CD, and when said CD actually releases. Sometimes it can literally be years. 17 hours ago, crumbs said: As far as I'm concerned, the label is irrelevant (as long as it's an independent label, not one beholden to cost-cutting studio interests) if MM is producing the release. In the last 5 years he's got a flawless track record, giving us one Holy Grail release after another with no stone left unturned. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris ChrusherComix 46 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 1 hour ago, king mark said: I hate the Hyperspace music tracked over the Hoth search scene. I much prefer Williams original Me too. Hate it every time, grit my teeth a little bit. It works for the mainstream audience, but the music intended and unused is superior. Overwhelming parts of the audiences don't buy film scores and have no idea the music intended for that scene. It is an example of what I mean though... it works, but many agree they should have not tracked that when the intended music worked so great anyways. Both JP and TLW suffer from tracked parts. In the film, sure, it works, but the intended music would've been better. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,417 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 6 hours ago, Chris ChrusherComix said: As long-time JWFans know (many probably forgot me), I dust off my old JWFan profile to join in the glee at such glorious releases such as these. And as many remember, while JP complete will be fun but not a hell of a lot of extras. It is TLW complete is what I've always wanted, as it is the most tracked and worst edited John Williams/Spielberg movie - unusual for Spielberg, as he usually trusts Williams' instincts and sometimes edits the score to the music. This was a rare aberration from his usual methods, as the main themes were clumsily tracked into some of the film's highlights and ruined the entire movie, IMO. It's tracked worse than TPM! Had to listen to my old, crude DVD rips to enjoy it, and crude they were. To have it complete and in chronological... outside of truly complete and chronological Star Wars scores, this was up there near the top. Expanded Rescuing Sarah? Any and all missing music in the dino-chase sequences? Ludlow's Demise properly placed? Oh man... this will get a LOT of play! Thank you Michael M,, Neil B. and co.! Already know it's going to be as close to perfection as humanly possible on a CD set release. Can't wait for it! Hi Chris! ... Neil B? I don't see his name anywhere in the press release for this title? I remember your old "crude" DVD rip sourced edit! It was amazing at the time, the first glimpse for me into how much really cool music was in the film . So much has happened after you made that; First, we got the sheet music, which finally explained what all the pieces on the OST were intended for, how to arrange everything, and how much additional music there was that was recorded that wasn't even in the film! You might enjoy reading this thread about it: http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/19455-complete-cue-list-the-lost-world-jurassic-park/ That led to better DVDrip sourced edits where everything was in its proper order, and synth mockups of unused music filled the gaps. Then the Blu Ray came out, and the sound mix on that allowed more music to be ripped clearly, making even better edits. Now, after 19 years, all of that is moot since we're getting everything in perfect sound. This is so awesome! Anyway, we delivered the bomb stick around this time and post more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris ChrusherComix 46 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 13 minutes ago, Jay said: Hi Chris! ... Neil B? I don't see his name anywhere in the press release for this title? I remember your old "crude" DVD rip sourced edit! It was amazing at the time, the first glimpse for me into how much really cool music was in the film . So much has happened after you made that; First, we got the sheet music, which finally explained what all the pieces on the OST were intended for, how to arrange everything, and how much additional music there was that was recorded that wasn't even in the film! You might enjoy reading this thread about it: http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/19455-complete-cue-list-the-lost-world-jurassic-park/ That led to better DVDrip sourced edits where everything was in its proper order, and synth mockups of unused music filled the gaps. Then the Blu Ray came out, and the sound mix on that allowed more music to be ripped clearly, making even better edits. Now, after 19 years, all of that is moot since we're getting everything in perfect sound. This is so awesome! Anyway, we delivered the bomb stick around this time and post more! Thanks, Jay. Yep, I made those crude rips just using the OST CD, a DVD with 5.1 analog outs, an analog stereo mixer, analog mixer and a MD recorder! No WAV editing or anything, as I didn't know how to do that then (I can now, but I edit very little of anything due to these modern expanded releases usually being pretty close to perfect or a fellow JWFan sending me his edit quicker than I can manage). Crude indeed by the standards of even rudimentary computer work let alone what a studio can do. They lasted for a few years and got their use, but as you said, many improvements came over the years. All can be put to rest now... this set is going to rock. And I try to stick around, but usually if there isn't a great new release out, I have nothing much to say and then I don't login as much as I'd like to. Off of work for a week too, which enables me to get some free time to log in as well. And Neil wasn't a part of this one? I thought I saw his name on it. Maybe because his name is on so many of these releases, I THOUGHT I saw it, haha. I can still keep the thanks in for his usual efforts on many of these releases, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,417 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I don't see his name anywhere in the announcement: https://www.facebook.com/lalalandrecords/posts/10154862904893755 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris ChrusherComix 46 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 45 minutes ago, Jay said: I don't see his name anywhere in the announcement: https://www.facebook.com/lalalandrecords/posts/10154862904893755 I edited it. Feel bad, but we can thank him for other great work he's put in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 486 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I think it is safe to say that this release is... Pieter Boelen and Disco Stu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICHARDSTRAUSS68 107 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I can finally throw away the DVD/BD rip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 $60 for a 4 discs set is definitely reasonable. That's $15 for each disc, plus you get a fancy packaging, great liner notes, etc... No complaints from me! Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 On 11/27/2016 at 5:18 AM, BloodBoal said: $60 for a 4 discs set is definitely reasonable. That's $15 for each disc, plus you get a fancy packaging, great liner notes, etc... No complaints from me! $60 for a lavishly produced 4 cd set is fine. The shipping costs though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 On 11/27/2016 at 4:59 AM, dillweed97 said: I can finally throw away the DVD/BD rip! Not so fast! There might be alternates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 On 11/27/2016 at 5:44 AM, Stefancos said: $60 for a lavishly produced 4 cd set is fine. The shipping costs though.... That's our punishment for not living in the States! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 We should be happy they are willing to ship to non-Americaneze countries at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,027 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Yeah, $22.50 shipping is quite a lot. Plus I'll be charged another £20 customs. Seems like It happens now every time I order something. It wasn't the case before. Punishment for Brexit? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,707 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I saw the exchange rate graph on xe.com and there's a near vertical line in June - that's cost us around £10 more for the box. I'll be ordering while ignoring the final cost as much as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Yeah I'm gonna have to ignore my innate Dutch stinginess and just look away when the shipping costs get added and the total amount comes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 They shipped Braveheart and Home Alone to me last year for $17.50 there must have been a promotion on or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,722 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 3 hours ago, crocodile said: Yeah, $22.50 shipping is quite a lot. Plus I'll be charged another £20 customs. Seems like It happens now every time I order something. It wasn't the case before. Punishment for Brexit? Karol Yes that is a lot for shipping but Finnish customs usually don't snatch my parcels because the labels like Intrada, LLL and retailers like SAE do not mark the real value of the products on the outside. Bless them. Otherwise they are quick to put through customs everything even little over 20 € of worth. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,417 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Can't you guys order from Music Box Records to save money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,487 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 57 minutes ago, Jay said: Can't you guys order from Music Box Records to save money? In my case I've already ordered on website by the past, they have several labels & best shipping rates when I make a 2-8 CD order... and the next one will be a 8 CD order :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,417 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 You're in Canada though... Music Box Records is a European retailer, so they'd only have to pay to ship from one European country to another instead if from US to their country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,417 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 On 11/27/2016 at 5:48 AM, Stefancos said: Not so fast! There might be alternates Not in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,722 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 46 minutes ago, Jay said: Can't you guys order from Music Box Records to save money? I am under the impression that they do not get these releases any earlier than regular customers ordering from e.g. LLL. I don't have the patience to wait for them to get the release and then dispatch it to me some time in the future. And it is not much if at all cheaper. JP Collection costs 66.95 € + 11.50 € for shipping, which is 77,45€. Ordering directly from LLL with shipping it is 59.98$ +21.50$ for shipping = 83,48 $=78,81 €. So the difference is a bit over a euro (or a bit more with regular mail) with probably two more weeks of waiting. Belgium and a few other countries have a bit cheaper shipping but for me it is not that big a deal. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,417 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I picked a random address in Helsinki, Finland used the Batman TAS 4CD set as my test candidate (Because it retails for $59.98) direct from La La Land: BATMAN THE ANIMATED SERIES VOL 3 $59.98 Subtotal: $59.98 Shipping: $21.50 Tax: $0.00Total: $81.48 Music Box Records BATMAN: THE ANIMATED SERIES: VOL. 3 LLLCD132262,95 € Total products (tax incl.) 62,95 € Total shipping 11,50 € Total 74,45 € which is $78.83 USD Dang, you're right! And yes it wouldn't arrive faster that way either. Damn! EDIT: Just for shiggles, I tried two other websites Screen Archives Subtotal: $59.95 Select country to calculate shipping: Shipping: $17.50Total: $77.45Movie Music Items Subtotal: $59.99 Sales Tax: $0 Shipping: $20Order Total: $79.99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I think LaLaLand actually works out at being cheaper for me! They say 12/9 for Jurassic Park and TBH I'd rather go with LLL and.l be guaranteed to get it for Xmas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,722 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 22 minutes ago, Bilbo Skywalker said: I think LaLaLand actually works out at being cheaper for me! They say 12/9 for Jurassic Park and TBH I'd rather go with LLL and.l be guaranteed to get it for Xmas! Their shipping is sometimes amazingly fast. Personal record is 3 days from US to Finland. 25 minutes ago, Jay said: I picked a random address in Helsinki, Finland used the Batman TAS 4CD set as my test candidate (Because it retails for $59.98) EDIT: Just for shiggles, I tried two other websites Screen Archives Subtotal: $59.95 Select country to calculate shipping: Shipping: $17.50 Total: $77.45Movie Music Items Subtotal: $59.99 Sales Tax: $0 Shipping: $20 Order Total: $79.99 Yeah SAE is cheaper but gleefully informs me that since there have been reports of packages to my destination having gone missing, they would like to give me the opportunity to pay another 20 $ for registered mail shipping which means they will replace the missing package if it doesn't arrive. Without it though they do not. So the shipping would be 37.50$ if I wanted to be careful. Which I didn't the last time I ordered from them and the package arrived safe and sound and was not robbed along the way. They also have the wonderful 40 $ + shipping option for further expedited safe registered delivery. There is a bit of a feeling of "I am not saying your package might have an accident if you don't pay for extra protection but it could happen. Just saying." Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,487 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I just made my choices for my next "8 CD" order. Feeling like: Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,417 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I am dying to hear this 4CD set! I don't even know where to start! Do I listen to 90 minutes of JP music I've heard a jillion times before diving into The Lost World? Hmmmm A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,707 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I'm heading straight for Racing to the Dock, followed by all the anniversary set tracks, to make sure everything's in order. TLW will pretty much be like listening to a new JW score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,417 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: to make sure everything's in order. What? You think the JP set might be out of chronological order? Are you serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,707 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Not as in chronological. Bad choice of words there. I meant it as in checking that nothing's missing, etc. The usual pre-excitement checks for any release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,487 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 15 minutes ago, Jay said: I am dying to hear this 4CD set! I don't even know where to start! Do I listen to 90 minutes of JP music I've heard a jillion times before diving into The Lost World? Hmmmm Listen the odd tracks of all the set first, then the even ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Of course what I'd really like to see now that we will have truly complete releases for both of these scores is to see someone create a version of each movie with a perfectly synced isolated score track. It's easily my favorite thing about the "despecialized" Star Wars versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Wait, are you telling me that Harmy's files have isolated score audio tracks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Yes! It's the best thing about Harmy's files! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 1 minute ago, Stefancos said: What? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmy's_Despecialized_Edition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,722 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I'll listen to the JP set C&C of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,417 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 20 hours ago, Bespin said: Listen the odd tracks of all the set first, then the even ones. I'll probably start with the JP cues that weren't on the OST, then all of TLW in order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 20 hours ago, Disco Stu said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmy's_Despecialized_Edition I have them. But mine do not have iso scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Do you know what version numbers of each one you have? Maybe the isolated score tracks were only added to the more recent versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I will listen to all the music in the order of which they were recorded! Chris ChrusherComix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I don't have those editions but I've heard about them and woah I didn't realize there's an iso score track. Cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Does anyone have any clue what is the best place to order Jurassic Park if you also want to post some additional stuff from other companies at the same time? I used Movie Music in the past, but they don't seem to have it listed yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,487 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 15 minutes ago, Pieter_Boelen said: Does anyone have any clue what is the best place to order Jurassic Park if you also want to post some additional stuff from other companies at the same time? I used Movie Music in the past, but they don't seem to have it listed yet. Moviemusic.com don't have it, because it's not released yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 919 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I personally have never had an issue with ordering from LLL directly. Doesn't seem like there's all that much difference between ordering from a different vendor. Chris ChrusherComix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,707 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I always order direct from the label. It's common to order from LLL and get a shipping notice a few hours later. I'll expect to receive this early the next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 919 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 It all depends. I ordered Home Alone almost as soon as it came out last year and I didn't get it until mid-January. Then again, I'll be ordering this as soon as I'm told it's out. Even if I'm at work - I'll just order via my phone I probably hit a busy period, but they're usually pretty good as getting it to you within a week if you're in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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