Gabriel Bezerra 302 Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 On 22/10/2018 at 3:08 PM, Luka said: I was listening to some opera when I heard something that reminded me of a track in Solo... It probably wasn't a temp track though haha I raise you this... Luka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,465 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 toothless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,465 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Holy temp track, Batman! Jay and toothless 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Bezerra 302 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 Hehehe, yea, I hear the similarities. I prefer Tyler's take! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Bezerra 302 Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 Doubt it was intencional and that I'm the first one to notice it... GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestat 348 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Gabriel, for some reason, can't hear your examples but do they sound like this: If they do, it is all very intentional. Williams, Davis etc are very explicit about referencing Adams as there is an intellectual and creative connection between their work. Hey, how about this as the opening to the Matrix Gabriel Bezerra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,419 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Gabriel Bezerra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Gabriel Bezerra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 What's the second video? Doesn't show in the US Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 It's the cue "Trojan Horse" from Elfman's Mr. Peabody And Sherman of all things! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,465 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 16 years before, Danny Elfman predicted another Marvel theme. Listen to the woodwinds from 0:04 to 0:15: Now listen to this (1:24 to 1:41): Trope 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Manakin Skywalker 4,896 Posted December 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 20, 2022 On 01/12/2022 at 3:56 PM, Anthony said: I've never heard this score before, but I just found yet another cue that The Clone Wars blatantly rips off. tcw_blueshadowvirus.mp3 thestat, Hego-Damask-II, Trope and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Bezerra 302 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 18 hours ago, Edmilson said: 16 years before, Danny Elfman predicted another Marvel theme. Listen to the woodwinds from 0:04 to 0:15: Now listen to this (1:24 to 1:41): That's just Take on Me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 On 16/04/2019 at 9:55 PM, Disco Stu said: Gettysburg is on TCM right now. This moment in the main title immediately made me think of "Test Drive" The Gettysburg theme came up on shuffle and I was reminded of this. I think of Test Drive every time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Ha! I made that same observation at one point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 994 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 For as much as Snyder fans wanted no Elfman in their DCEU movies, I think Holkenborg inadvertently might've made him a mainstay if that universe continued: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 964 Posted February 9, 2023 Author Share Posted February 9, 2023 I doesn’t belong to that thread but I didn’t know where to put it: I just realized while I I was whistling the danger motif that it’s the base of the theme in interstellar 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestat 348 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 JFC, I hate that Holkenborg brass sample but at least it's a decent score and theme. Much better than I can say about Elfman. The dude has not composed anything memorable since Dumbo. And this is from someone who loves Elfman. I saw him live at the London Nightmare Before Christmas concert - he was a ball of amazing, astonishing fire. Clearly film composition is not what he is into nowadays,,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thestat 348 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 On 20/12/2022 at 2:46 AM, Manakin Skywalker said: I've never heard this score before, but I just found yet another cue that The Clone Wars blatantly rips off. tcw_blueshadowvirus.mp3 1.06 MB · 194 downloads McNeely ripoffs are awesome. They are done by a fan who loves the original material. Manakin Skywalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,465 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Whenever I listen to Goldsmith's The Burbs, I can only think of Admiral Holdo addressing the Resistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,896 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 20 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said: . I just realized I posted this in the entirely wrong thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Luka 242 Posted February 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2023 Well this is embarassing… Holko, enderdrag64, GerateWohl and 9 others 2 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 964 Posted February 25, 2023 Author Share Posted February 25, 2023 OMG HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THIS IS HILARIOUS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 4 hours ago, Luka said: Well this is embarassing… - Hey John, can I copy your homework? - Yeah, just change it up a bit so it doesn't look obvious you copied. - Ok. ThePenitentMan1 and Luka 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 That is so egregious, I don't know how they even let that through... Luka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schilkeman 964 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 On 28/11/2022 at 7:47 PM, thestat said: Gabriel, for some reason, can't hear your examples but do they sound like this: If they do, it is all very intentional. Williams, Davis etc are very explicit about referencing Adams as there is an intellectual and creative connection between their work. Hey, how about this as the opening to the Matrix Yeah, there's a lot of John Adams-esqe minimalism in the first Matrix score. I'm not familiar enough with Don Davis's work to know if he always does this, but I don't recall much, if any, in JPIII. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Bezerra 302 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Rebels (Alternate 1985).mp4 darkspine10 and Holko 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestat 348 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Michael Kamen's The Runway from Die Hard 2 (the good stuff starts at 2:20): From Robert Folk's replacement score for Tremors (so short time scale and massive temp track concerns) (and obviously Folk is much much more than capable to compose his own action music as can be heard in the track below and he totally makes this his own.... Gabriel Bezerra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Wow I forgot how cool the Tremors score is! Time to bust out my LLL CD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,896 Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Does anyone happen to know where this might've been temped from? I heard the exact section from 1:11 to 1:56 in a completely unrelated PS2 game, so I figure they must both have been temped from elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,350 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Maybe they temped the game score into the episode haha Manakin Skywalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderdrag64 624 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 18 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said: Does anyone happen to know where this might've been temped from? I heard the exact section from 1:11 to 1:56 in a completely unrelated PS2 game, so I figure they must both have been temped from elsewhere. What game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,896 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 hour ago, enderdrag64 said: What game? I can't recall, but it was an extremely obscure game with basic synth/MIDI samples from like ~2005. I did check the credits too and there was no involvement from anyone who worked on TCW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsevilr 4 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 https://youtu.be/G5IcjcAxXs4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 I guess when writing his Ninth Symphony, the editor tracked this theme and Beethoven went with it PS: I know there's also a proto-Ode to Joy in Choral Fantasy, so it's fun to find that he was working and working on that elusive melody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,465 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Looking back in retrospect, I think the early 2010s was an important moment for the downfall of traditionally orchestral scores, because it was then that Hollywood made even established and experienced composers like JNH to copy the Zimmer Nolan scores (specifically Batman and Inception) in the temp track as closely as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Bezerra 302 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Luka and Manakin Skywalker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 WOAH!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderdrag64 624 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 This is purely coincidental, but I thought it was interesting. I've been rewatching Doctor Who, and in 1x06 Dalek there's a theme that shows up a couple times that has the exact melody of Battle of the Heroes from ROTS. It shows up right before the title theme in the episode, and again around the 25:40 mark as the Doctor tells the military group that the Dalek isn't indestructible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,465 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 I have a feeling that the motif below, which I like to call "the worried piano", has been re-used in numerous horror/suspense/psychological thriller movies. On the top of my head I remember hearing something similar in Wallfisch's It scores and maybe in Marco Beltrami's or Fernando Velazquez's work for suspense movies. And I'm not sure Goldenthal was the inventor of it either. I wouldn't be surprised if this kind of "worried pianos" had popped up in even older scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Talking of Sherlock, I don't know if anyone else watches the UK series Taskmaster, but the piece of music composed for the task intro sections is so reminiscent that I have to stop myself humming Arnold's main theme every time I hear it: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka 242 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Richard Penna said: the UK series Taskmaster There's a Quebec version that I've been watching and it's the same music haha I guess the fact that the original is from the UK make it even more Sherlock-like hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 964 Posted May 29, 2023 Author Share Posted May 29, 2023 Lol I know I'm pushing it here but still it made me laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,465 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 In his new blog post, Lukas Kendall compared two cues from Avatar: The Way of Water and Spiderman: No Way Home and came to the conclusion that every modern score is... the same. Quote I had a funny moment yesterday that acted as good contrast. I was channel surfing with my daughters (twins, they’re eight). I was briefly on Avatar 2, on HBO...as reverent choral music played for a scene of ecological tragedy (doesn’t matter which one). The kids saw Spider Man: No Way Home on the channel guide and asked me to turn to it. So I did—and reverent choral music played for a scene of one of the Spider-Mans losing his mind in grief and beating the crap out of a defenseless Green Goblin. I said, “It’s the same music.” The kids listened a sec, and laughed: “Yeah, it is!” I haven’t gone back to compare the cues—but sonically, they really did sound like the same cue. I mean, they might have even been in the same key. (I’ve been told lots of film cues are in D minor because it’s easy to play, with only one flat.) In the old days, there was occasionally “temp track love” that would result in similar sounding cues. But this was even deeper than that: it was, on a conceptual level, the exact same cue. And that’s film music today on the blockbuster level. It’s like there are three or four different cues: joy, suspense, tragedy, action. Just pick one and tailor it to the timings. And each score is effectively written by eight or nine musicians, working under the “brand name” of the guy with the track record who supervises. It’s really the only kind of score that fits this business model—and, make no mistake, it is a business, and a huge one at that. I don’t think it’s a surprise that the “multiverse” films are the last big mega-hits being squeezed out of these “franchises.” They’re just a kind of comic book that we all used to read: the “team-up.” Three different Spider-Mans! Two different Batmans! Old and young Indiana Jones, together! It really feels like the end of something. https://www.lukaskendall.com/post/it-s-the-same-score This is probably the NWH cue he was referring to: Don't know about the Avatar one, it's probably unreleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 On 09/04/2023 at 4:16 AM, Edmilson said: Looking back in retrospect, I think the early 2010s was an important moment for the downfall of traditionally orchestral scores, because it was then that Hollywood made even established and experienced composers like JNH to copy the Zimmer Nolan scores (specifically Batman and Inception) in the temp track as closely as possible. I've never seen the film but found this clip of the scene. It's just about the least inspiring way imaginable of scoring it, paying no regard whatsoever to the period or setting. Not saying I'd expect a medieval ensemble, but a historical approach to action has been done far better than this. I really hope the director explicitly asked JNH for this, because otherwise it's a very poor cue. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,465 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 11 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: I've never seen the film but found this clip of the scene. It's just about the least inspiring way imaginable of scoring it, paying no regard whatsoever to the period or setting. Not saying I'd expect a medieval ensemble, but a historical approach to action has been done far better than this. Yep, it's a particularly uninspired cue. The score as a whole has some really good parts (some of them unreleased), but the action/suspense music is so uninspired and dull. You can almost see the director/producers/executives/etc asking JNH for a "Batman Begins kind of score". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka 242 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: I've never seen the film but found this clip of the scene. It's just about the least inspiring way imaginable of scoring it, paying no regard whatsoever to the period or setting. Not saying I'd expect a medieval ensemble, but a historical approach to action has been done far better than this. I really hope the director explicitly asked JNH for this, because otherwise it's a very poor cue. It's very classic JNH action cue though haha like I could have perfectly heard that in Hunger Games. Actually I feel like I heard pretty much the same thing in Hunger Games 😆 And Maleficent too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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