BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Told you he doesn't like us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I just think it was funny. I don't think it's deniable - the level of vitriol in discourse, both in jest and serious, is much higher here than at FSM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I will also say that tweet he quoted, from the composer Daniel Pemberton, is very funny. I laughed out loud! Lol'd, if you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 2 hours ago, BloodBoal said: Ve are not vorzy! Vere are da vood vinds?? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 17 hours ago, publicist said: He wasn't. Oh! Well from that interview, he didn't sound like he interested in doing the film in the first place anyway. 19 hours ago, Blumenkohl said: I still remember in the 1990s when people were saying the same thing about Williams. Because yes, every Williams score sounded like Williams and every non-Williams score sounded like bad Williams. I thought era of Williams score was more 1980s? Zimmer's influence was more apparent in the 1990's after all, for obvious reasons. 12 hours ago, Nick1066 said: One morning I came home after being out all night...a friend had opened up a new Italian restaurant in London near Covent Garden and we closed the place down, then helped ourselves to his wine cellar. When I got home I collapsed on the couch but didn't feel like sleeping (or so I thought) so I popped in the Gladiator DVD. Fell asleep like 5 minutes later of course. Eventually, the movie played through and the DVD switched back to the menu screen, which looped 60 seconds from the main theme as the menu reset. Over. And over. And over. For 12 hours. Having drank all night, I was constantly in that half awake/asleep dream state where time and space have no meaning and I couldn't figure out why I kept hearing the same piece of music again and again, and how long was this movie anyway? Didn't even have the energy or presence of mind to reach for the remote and turn it off. That thing turned into an ear worm that stayed with me until it was mercifully replaced by Hedwig's Theme. Not that there's anything wrong w/the Gladiator score, but after that, I didn't want to hear anything from Zimmer and pretty much ignored everything he did soundtrack wise until Interstellar. Some nights though, I wake up in a cold sweat and can still hear it...the screaming of the Hans. Wow! I can see why that would affect you. Some themes are ear-worms for all the wrong reasons after all. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Anyways, apparently Johan second coming of Jesus was not a versatile enough composer to handle a movie like this. So they brought Zimmer on board to help. Why is Zimmer catching flack? There is a growing trend that new composers are highly specialized freaks. Like an athlete who only has biceps. They write one style and one style only. Compared to Goldsmith, Williams, Horner, or Zimmer THAT is the most shameful and sad trend in film music. It’s weird. Through that lens, Hans Zimmer is the last of a dying breed, not the problem. He is prolific because he is a true film composer of the caliber and versatility of the greats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,718 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I think FSM sucks, and I find it to be much more vitriolic than this place. And just a lot of arguing and idiocy interspersed with interminable smugness where people say things like "why isn't Georges Delerue in your list of top one composers." Mostly people who don't know as much as they think they do. This is by far the best film score forum on the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 JWFan is better than everything! bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 So... many... signature-worthy... posts... must...resist...adding...them...all.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 JWFan is overrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just now, Disco Stu said: JWFan is overrated Its no Definitely Maybe, I'll give you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 My purpose on this forum. To break Disco Stu! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 What? SafeUnderHill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 @Nick1066It would have bloody results if a bunch of JWFans and FSMs coincidentally met on the street. @TheGreyPilgrimYou also loathe JW's extremely uncreative and dull phase from 2000-2005? @ThorAlthough I am not a huge Zimmer fan, I must admit that Interstellar is truly a fantastic score, powerful, emotional and above all new! I barely expect him to top that, so, yes, he just went past his peak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Brundlefly said: @TheGreyPilgrimYou also loathe JW's extremely uncreative and dull phase from 2000-2005? He also hates AI. Almost zealously. Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: @TheGreyPilgrimYou also loathe JW's extremely uncreative and dull phase from 2000-2005? Where'd you get that idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 So if Zimmer has peaked, how long was his 'golden age'? Did it run for longer than Williams'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Williams has had several "golden ages", IMO. Late 70s to early 80s is one. Early to mid 90s is another. Early to mid 2000s a third. You could say the same about Zimmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 For me, Williams' golden age ran for 24 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 21 hours ago, BloodBoal said: Told you he doesn't like us! It appears to be the rest of ye he doesn't like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Damn him, and damn you! Never liked you, anyway! Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 On 9/19/2017 at 8:45 AM, mstrox said: So who's this guy? Anybody know him? I bet he's an FSM regular. I vote we crush him. VE VILL CRUSH HIM! Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 If you unscramble the letters in "Simon McCauley," you get "Stefan Cosman." Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Heh heh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: So who's this guy? Anybody know him? I bet he's an FSM regular. I vote we crush him. VE VILL CRUSH HIM! Well, he's not wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I'm not embarrassed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Daniel Pemberton is a versatile young composer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 2 hours ago, BloodBoal said: Damn him, and damn you! Never liked you, anyway! Dont be jealous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, Blumenkohl said: Daniel Pemberton is a versatile young composer. That's true. And in another relevant argument, I'd also like to point out that I like to eat potato chips. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Doug Adams can’t keep the complete LOTR in print. So he’s an amazing but otherwise useless individual with a Twitter account. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Apparently Twitter can be quite an embarrassing place too, no? I'm not on it, but I hear about it a lot. James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Adams 494 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 3 hours ago, Blumenkohl said: Doug Adams can’t keep the complete LOTR in print. So he’s an amazing but otherwise useless individual with a Twitter account. What production tasks the liner notes guy with keeping the set in print? Bilbo and BLUMENKOHL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 The dubious ones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,718 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 10 hours ago, Quintus said: So if Zimmer has peaked 7 hours ago, Thor said: Williams has had several "golden ages" 10 hours ago, Quintus said: Zimmer 7 hours ago, Thor said: Williams bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 'From the lowest dungeon to the highest peak it climbed. ascending in unbroken spiral in many thousand steps, until it issued at last in Nolan's Tower carved in the living rock of Zimmer-zigil, the pinnacle of the Filmertime.' bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,534 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 What the 'effing heck have you been smoking, my friend?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 20, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2017 Old Toby, the finest weed in the Southfarthing! bollemanneke, Sharkissimo and John 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,718 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 On 9/19/2017 at 1:49 PM, BloodBoal said: Told you he doesn't like us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 What's with all the Zimmer hate? Yes, his work is occasionally inconsistent in quality, but when he gets it right, he really hits the nail on the head. He's a good composer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I haven't seen much Zimmer hate here to be honest. Most people express either ambivalence or positivity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 9 hours ago, Doug Adams said: What production tasks the liner notes guy with keeping the set in print? This is not a place for fairness or rationality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 7 hours ago, JohnSolo said: What's with all the Zimmer hate? It's not the man himself that the haters have a problem with, it's the way his music is everywhere and at the same time. Everything has to be Zimmer. Heck, other composers gets sacked from projects simply because they are not Zimmer. Of course, if you like the Zimmer sound, then he's an absolute godsend. This is his age! I'm pretty sure that, a few decades ago, when John Williams sat on the throne, there were many JW haters too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 The difference being that JW just couldn't overextend himself like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Yes, John Williams did not duplicate himself, but other composers were being asked if they could provide the JW sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Williams sure did that but that was more due to the uniformity of movies he took on (from 1977 till around 'Accidental Tourist'). Still a completely different matter being asked to provide a sophisticated orchestral score (say Broughton in 'Young Sherlock Holmes' or Goldsmith in 'Poltergeist') than to just duplicate the dour and simplistic ostinati and basses from Dark Knight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Alexcremers said: It's not the man himself that the haters have a problem with, it's the way his music is everywhere and at the same time. Everything has to be Zimmer. Heck, other composers gets sacked from projects simply because they are not Zimmer. Of course, if you like the Zimmer sound, then he's an absolute godsend. This is his age! I'm pretty sure that, a few decades ago, when John Williams sat on the throne, there were many JW haters too. That's one of the main problems I have with the socalled "Zimmer bashing". People seem to conflate the fact that he's influential and has many "copycats" with the man's own music. In reality, of course, Zimmer himself continually tries to renew himself, and challenge whatever sound he made trendy. Whenever someone is doing Zimmer á la INCEPTION, for example, the man himself has long since moved on to other things. mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James 119 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 He is very guilty. Your main plagiarists are protected and encouraged by HIM. Its simple. End of the Zimmer company. End of the Zimmer period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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