Manakin Skywalker 4,897 Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 "He's Insane" would be the second cue, as that's the line Hux says when Poe starts shooting the turrets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGCJ 394 Posted March 2, 2018 Author Share Posted March 2, 2018 14 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said: "He's Insane" would be the second cue, as that's the line Hux says when Poe starts shooting the turrets. Thanks, I only had a rough/quick guess at each cue but didn't even think much about the opening escape as I presume it's quite a mess of cues. I'm guessing that's the first cue of the FYC then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 And I think Place in the World might be the campfire scene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 One of those Inserts is probably from end of the "The Fathiers" FYC track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGCJ 394 Posted March 2, 2018 Author Share Posted March 2, 2018 Not sure if this translates to the music's reel/part (slate?) but in "The Force of Sound" documentary there's a few times we get to see some footage with the reel labeled: Reel 4v32. 10 - Canto Bight interior, the shot that is specifically shown is the small alien loading BB8 with coins. The same label is also shown to be on the shot of the Fathiers charging out of their stalls in the stables. (the shot OST "The Fathiers" starts) So we know that reel 4 is at-least from the Canto Bight casino to the Fathiers charge, likely even the whole Canto Bight sequence. So if I'm interpreting that right 4M32INS & 4M32REV2 are both likely heard during the Canto Bight scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,319 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 There's a new deleted scene photo that shows Luke in his hut with a frying pan in the background. Corresponds with Luke's Breakfast? Unless it's just the second half of Acht-To Island, as speculated earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGCJ 394 Posted March 3, 2018 Author Share Posted March 3, 2018 1 hour ago, crumbs said: There's a new deleted scene photo that shows Luke in his hut with a frying pan in the background. Corresponds with Luke's Breakfast? Unless it's just the second half of Acht-To Island, as speculated earlier. That's just a short extension of a scene with Luke mourning Han in his hut and briefly connecting with Leia, which would go just as he enters and slams the door before it cuts to Luke's daily routine. (Source) So, even if the music is for that it would still be as speculated, or the previous cue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmarps 217 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 “Rose’s Turn” 😂 - a Gypsy the Musical reference?? MikeH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smaug The Iron 516 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Here’s my attempt to put the cues in right order: Welcome Poe and Hux He's Insane Resistance Force We Lose Girl Ace Tossing the Saber We Need Your Help Luke's Breakfast Encounter Before the Dream We Need a New Base Fighter Down Saving Leia Leia Saved! Leia Saved! Fix Luke in the Falcon Watch the Language Admiral Holdo Rose Appears Rose Catches Finn Sun Shot Thought Connection The Connection Learning the Force Worst People in the Universe R.T. Shore Crashing the Party Party Music Six Hours Left Codebreaker... Thief Fathiers Fathiers Charge! Rose's Fathiers Saying Goodbye to the Fathier The Cave Scene Place in the World Luke and Rey Young Ren is Awakened Old Books Yoda Insert Holdo's Secret Plan Working Switches Mutiny I'll Help You Lady Officer and Poe Conspire Ladies Parting Come Closer, Child The Emperor's Theme Poe Wakes Up Finn, Rose and Hux Rey Looks Fighting Together More Fight Join Me Holdo's Resolve After the Big Explosion Traitor! Finn Fights Phasma Rose and Finn Escape Hux and Ren Prep for Battle Troops and Planes Here They Come, Again To the Target Finn's Attempted Sacrifice Luke and Leia Together Follow Him The Last Jedi Finale Pt. 1 End Credit Pt. 2 End Credit Pt. 3 Rev End Credit Pt. 4 I don’t know: No Title 1M02A No Title 3M20INS2 No Title 3M22REV No Title 4M32INS No Title 4M32REV2 No Title 5M46INS No Title 7M67AINS No Title 9M85INS Theme In What Cha Got? Important Scene Rey Awakens Place to Place Rescuing Luke Rey Looks Back Rose's Turn Mechanical Trouble Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Which cues correspond to the first track on the OST? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,319 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 On 3/5/2018 at 5:25 AM, Smaug the iron said: I don’t know: No Title 1M02A No Title 3M20INS2 No Title 3M22REV No Title 4M32INS No Title 4M32REV2 No Title 5M46INS No Title 7M67AINS No Title 9M85INS Theme In What Cha Got? Important Scene Rey Awakens Place to Place Rescuing Luke Rey Looks Back Rose's Turn Mechanical Trouble Main Title, Peace and Purpose and Rebellion is Reborn would be covered in this list. Probably Theme In, Rey Looks Back and Rose's Turn (in that order). Peace and Purpose (OST track) seems to be two different cues though, so maybe Important Scene is wrapped into that? There's a scene with a spaceship having mechanical trouble in the movie, just can't remember where. Think it involved Finn and Rose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 I still think Theme In is either the ANH piccolo or the beginning of the End Credits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,532 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 On 2018. 03. 04. at 7:25 PM, Smaug the iron said: Mechanical Trouble I believe this should be the part of "Escape" where Poe's X-Wing malfunctions and BB-8 has to fix it. In this case it could go between Welcome Poe and Hux and He's Insane. Or maybe this and He's Insane are partial alternates? One of them has the film-used Poe's full theme, the other that awesome MotR rendition transitioning into Poe's Theme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordskylark 1 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 One note -- that list is not complete. There were about 5 titles (accidentally?) missing from the GEMA site. Admiral Holdo After the Big Explosion Ahch-To Island Big Fights The Cave Scene Codebreaker... Thief Come Closer, Child The Connection Crashing the Party The Emperor's Theme Encounter Before the Dream End Credit Pt. 2 End Credit Pt. 3 Rev End Credit Pt. 4 Fathiers Fathiers Charge! The Fathiers Fighter Down Fighting Together Finale Finale Pt. 1 Finn Fights Phasma Finn, Rose and Hux Finn's Attempted Sacrifice Follow Him Fun with Finn and Rose He's Insane Here They Come, Again Hoda's Resolve Holdo's Secret Plan Hux and Ren I'll Help You Important Scene Join Me Ladies Parting Lady Officer and Poe Conspire The Last Jedi Learning the Force Leia Saved! Leia Saved! Fix Lesson One Luke and Leia Together Luke and Rey Luke in the Falcon Luke's Breakfast Main Title and Escape Mechanical Trouble Mirror Scene More Fight Mutiny No Title 1M02A No Title 3M20INS2 No Title 3M22REV No Title 4M32INS No Title 4M32REV2 No Title 5M46INS No Title 7M67AINS No Title 9M85INS Old Books Party Music Place in the World Place to Place Poe Wakes Up Prep for Battle R.T. Shore Rescuing Luke Resistance Force Rey Awakens Rey Looks Rey Looks Back Rose and Finn Escape Rose Appears Rose Catches Finn Rose's Fathiers Rose's Turn Saving Leia Saying Goodbye to the Fathier Six Hours Left Star Wars: The Last Jedi Sun Shot Theme In Thought Connection To the Target Tossing the Saber Touch Traitor! Troops and Planes Watch the Language We Can Do This We Lose Girl Ace We Need a New Base We Need Your Help Welcome Poe and Hux What Cha Got? Working Switches Worst People in the Universe Yoda Insert Young Ren is Awakened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Some of those seem to be just the OST track titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGCJ 394 Posted March 10, 2018 Author Share Posted March 10, 2018 Ok, so I checked by searching through the Last Jedi listings by number, as opposed to just searching "Last Jedi" under Williams, and found a few more (thanks lordskylark for the heads up!): Ahch-To Island Big Fights Fun with Finn and Rose Lesson One Main Title and Escape Mirror Scene Touch We Can Do This Some could just be OST titles, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 MT and Escape is definitely and OST title, Lesson One, Fun with Finn and Rose and Ahch-To Island could be OST titles, the rest seem to be either cue titles we didn't have or alternative titles to ones we already have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,319 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Mirror Scene sounds like Part B of The Cave Scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Who wants to hear Daisy Ridley snap? Just now, crumbs said: Mirror Scene sounds like Part B of The Cave Scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 8 hours ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: Who wants to hear Daisy Ridley snap? That should have been included on the soundtrack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,843 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 How does anyone use that GEMA site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordskylark 1 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 I don't think any of them are OST titles. The cue titles usually are stored together in a single sequence. If something is an OST title, usually the OST track names are uploaded to the database at completely different times and therefore the cue listings would be located different. But how strange things are incorporated there, you never know. Also, I am surprised how many cues there are: 9M85INS means there is likely at least 85 cues. But, if you remove the untitled alternate cues, there are about 90 cue names left. So I do not see any reason why those titles would have been limited to the OST. Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 386 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 On 3/11/2018 at 11:01 AM, filmmusic said: How does anyone use that GEMA site? You just type in the title and the writer of the musical work that you're looking for. See here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,843 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 3 hours ago, Corellian2019 said: You just type in the title and the writer of the musical work that you're looking for. See here Thanks. i wrote Last jedi in the title and Williams in the performing artist, but it comes up with this: No cue titles. edit: never mind! I wrote just Last Jedi, and it comes up with the cues! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smaug The Iron 516 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Try “Star Wars The Last Jedi” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 386 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 It's important that you put John Williams as the "writer", not "performing artist" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGCJ 394 Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 Some more cue titles discovered! This time from the Sabam repertoire, and it looks like they're mostly in order! No Tittle 1M02A2 Welcome Poe and Hux Holdo's Secret Plan He's Insane Resistance Force To the Target Theme In We Can Do This Fighter Down We Lose Girl Ace Rescuing Luke Come Closer, Child Rose Catches Finn Tossing the Saber Rey Looks Back We Need Your Help Luke's Breakfast Old Books The Cave Scene Prep for Battle Leia Saved! Leia Saved! Fix Luke in the Falcon Watch the Language NO Title 3M20INS2 Admiral Holdo Rose Appears Rose Catches Finn No Title 3M22Rev Sun Shot Thought Connection Place to Place Learning the Force Rey Awakens Lady Officer and Poe Conspire The Connection Worst People in the Universe Party Music R.T. Shore Rose's Fathiers No Title 4M32INS No Title 4M32REV2 Luke and Rey Place in the World Six Hours Left Codebreaker... Thief Fathiers Charge! Crashing the Party Saying Goodbye to the Fathier Saving Leia Mirror Scene Encounter Before the Dream You're Not Alone No Title 5M46INS Touch Young Ren is Awakened Big Fights Yoda Insert Yoda Appears Not Enough Traitor! Eavesdropping Mutiny I'll Help You Working Switches Dread Ladies Parting Poe Wakes Up Finn, Rose, and Hux Fighting Together Join Me Hoda's Resolve Important Scene No Title 7M67AINS After the Big Explosion Finn Fights Phasma Rose and Finn Escape Hux and Ren What Cha Got? Troops and Planes Mechanical Trouble Here They Come, Again Finn's Attempted Sacrifice The Kiss Luke and Leia Together Luke and Leia Luke and Leia Reunion Follow Him More Fight No Title 9M85INS Rey Looks These are listed in separate entries: End Credit Pt. 2 End Credit Pt. 3 REV End Credit Pt. 4 Rose's Turn Oddly, these are missing: The Emperor's Theme Finale Pt. 1 We Need a New Base Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,319 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 hours ago, CGCJ said: Luke and Leia Together Luke and Leia Luke and Leia Reunion Hrmmm! 2 alternates for The Spark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Encounter before Dream, a possible explanation just came to me: Encounter (A Kylo connection, or the fight with Luke) before the Dream (Young Kylo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 325 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 This just reminds me why I prefer albums with longer tracks made out of shorter ones (still chronologically of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,441 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Yeah seriously, hopefully enough of these cues are meant to overlap, that it won't be too disjointed to listen to. Looking at this list, it's crazy to think anyone could write that much music, like, EVER, let alone for just one film! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 It may be the longest score of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,843 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 4 hours ago, Brundlefly said: It may be the longest score of all time. Don't think so. isn't Bernstein's Ten Commandments 3 cds in the Intrada 6-cd release? edit: I see it says total score time: 2:30:53. + 32:54 of alternates/unused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,953 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 9 minutes ago, filmmusic said: Don't think so. isn't Bernstein's Ten Commandments 3 cds in the Intrada 6-cd release? And the Return of the King CR, especially if you include all the alternates (OST, rarities, Use Well the Days, Fan-Credits, etc...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Alternates don't count. And the fan credits (Bilbo's Song aside) are edits do they don't count either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,953 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I was responding to @filmmusic who counted alternates. And its still a longer score, anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smaug The Iron 516 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 After seeing the deleted scene of Ray’s third lesson, have I updated my list. Crashing the Party and Party Music is now before six hours left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,744 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 2 hours ago, filmmusic said: Don't think so. isn't Bernstein's Ten Commandments 3 cds in the Intrada 6-cd release? edit: I see it says total score time: 2:30:53. + 32:54 of alternates/unused. That's 3 discs from the original sessions, 1 disc of stuff from the original sessions only edited differently and 2 discs of later recordings. Despite having fewer discs the score to Return of the King is significantly longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I already thought of The Ten Commandments, but I think The Last Jedi is slighty longer than 151 minutes. But well, The Return of the King might still beat it. How long is it without alternates and edits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 On 3/2/2018 at 5:54 PM, CGCJ said: Not sure if this translates to the music's reel/part (slate?) but in "The Force of Sound" documentary there's a few times we get to see some footage with the reel labeled: Reel 4v32. 10 - Canto Bight interior, the shot that is specifically shown is the small alien loading BB8 with coins. The same label is also shown to be on the shot of the Fathiers charging out of their stalls in the stables. (the shot OST "The Fathiers" starts) So we know that reel 4 is at-least from the Canto Bight casino to the Fathiers charge, likely even the whole Canto Bight sequence. So if I'm interpreting that right 4M32INS & 4M32REV2 are both likely heard during the Canto Bight scenes. While it's possible that those inserts occur during the Canto Bight scene, what that Reel label translates to is "Reel 4, Version 32" The 32 commonality with the insert there is just a coincidence. Version 32 refers to the whole reel, not to a cue. As my contribution to Identifying cues, I'm pretty sure that "What Cha Got?" is the title of a small cue when DJ asks about payment and demands Rose's medallion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,953 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 5 hours ago, Brundlefly said: well, The Return of the King might still beat it. How long is it without alternates and edits? 229 minutes. Since its not an alternate per se, I would also include an added two and a half minutes of trailer music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Chen G. said: 229 minutes. Though of course, some tracks of the CR include two different versions of certain "cues", for example The Houses of Healing etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,953 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Its still much longer. Actually, each of the three CRs are longer than The Last Jedi; and I'm sure there are quite a few other scores that are also longer. The first time people have their hands on a 2.5-hour Williams score, and suddenly they just about start hailing it as the longest score ever composed. Come on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Just now, Chen G. said: Its still much longer. Actually, each of the three CRs are longer than The Last Jedi. The first time people have their hands on a 2.5-hour Williams score, and they just about start hailing it as the longest score ever composed. Come on... Wasn't the film 3 hours long at one point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,953 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 We know the overall length of recorded music is just over three hours, but I think a fair bit of that is alternate takes rather than too much in the way of deleted scored scenes. I should imagine Williams first laid eyes on a version of the film that was at least somewhat polished, rather than the full rough cut. Anyhow, I'm sure there are other scores of a similar or greater length out there. I just can't recall one at the moment, apart from the Middle Earth ones. I mean, the anniversary Titanic release is over four hours, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Apparently Gorranson scored a 4 hour cut of Black Panther, but how much of that was actually scored blah blah blah I don't know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 So I had to redo most of my edit. I went back and watched scenes with the iso score and I THINK this is the correct order of things. I thought I saw the cue title "Dread" in this thread but not sure if it is an actual title. Main Title Theme In Welcome Poe and Hux He's Insane Resistant Force To The Target We Can Do This Fighter Down We Lose Girl Ace Tossing The Saber We Need Your Help Important Scene (Revisiting Snoke) Luke's Breakfast Rey Looks (when she discovers the tree with the Jedi Sacred Texts) Rescuing Luke We Need A New Base Saving Leia Leia Saved Leia Saved FIX Luke In The Falcon Watch Your Language Admiral Holdo Rose Appears Rose Catches Finn Rey Awakens (when she wakes up with the sun in her face) Thought Connection Learning The Force Lady Officer and Poe Conspire The Connection Worst People In The Universe R.T. Shore Rose's Fathiers Luke and Rey Place In The World Six Hours Left Codebreaker...Thief Fathiers Fathiers Charge! Saying Goodbye To The Fathier Encounter Before The Dream The Cave Scene Rey Looks Back (the mirror sequence) You're Not Alone Touch Young Ren Is Awakened Big Fights Yoda Appears (this definitely is first) Old Books Yoda Insert What Cha Got? (when DJ asks about down payment for his services) Don't Join (Part of What Cha Got?) Traitor! Rey's Journey Mutiny I'll Help You Working Switches Ladies Parting Come Closer, Child Emperor's Theme Poe Wakes Up Finn, Rose and Hux Fighting Together Join Me Holdo's Secret Plan (I believe when she pilots the cruiser towards the Star Destroyers) Holdo's Resolve After The Explosion Finn Fights Phasma Rose and Finn Escape Hux and Ren Prep For Battle Troops and Planes Mechanical Trouble Here They Come, Again Finn's Attempted Sacrifice The Kiss Luke and Leia Reunion That's Enough Follow Him More Fighting The Last Jedi Sun Shot Old Friends Finale End Credits Crashing The Party (Deleted Scene) Party Music (Deleted Scene) Rose's Turn (The Rebellion Is Reborn?) UNSURE No Title 1M02A No Title 3M20INS2 No Title 3M22REV No Title 4M32INS No Title 4M32REV2 No Title 5M46INS No Title 7M67AINS No Title 9M85INS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Corrections: I believe Big Fights should be before Young Ren Is Awakened. Working Switches is after Rey’s Journey. Mutiny is after I’ll Help You. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGCJ 394 Posted April 4, 2018 Author Share Posted April 4, 2018 The BMI Repertoire Utapau Music listings now includes one for The Last Jedi with all of the film cues and there's a few more titles: Chrome Dome Revisiting Snoke Old Friends Snoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,319 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 So what does Old Friends represent? The cue with Luke in the Falcon? The cue where Rey and Poe meet? The track title for the OST album? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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