Mission: Impossible 7 & 8

[Yavar Moradi 2,599]

I also want more Peggy Carter! The two seasons we got were very very good -- easily the best Marvel series before the Disney+ era.

 

Yavar

[JNHFan2000 2,966]

It looks like Pom Klemetief is some sort of acrobatic killer maybe. Based on the outfit and make up

[Naïve Old Fart 9,534]

On 17/05/2023 at 3:25 PM, Jay said:

 

 

For me, the selling point for this - apart from the ever-reliable Ving Rhames - is the return of Mr. Kittridge.

[Tallguy 3,398]

Nothing says final episode like bringing back minor characters from the beginning.

 

The beginning of the first movie, with a cast of fairly well known supporting actors who got unceremoniously bumped off was one of the more rewarding moments in the cinema for me.

[Jay 37,369]

Yea I assumed Emilio Estevez was a major character going in

[Mr. Who 919]

2 hours ago, Jay said:

Yea I assumed Emilio Estevez was a major character going in

I read a while ago that Cruise regretted Estevez’ character dying so early in the movie. 

[Jay 37,369]

I guess if his death wasn't so specific they could have found a way to say he didn't really die somehow

[Mr. Who 919]

They could maybe have cast Charlie Sheen as his brother lol

[Tallguy 3,398]

17 minutes ago, Mr. Who said:

I read a while ago that Cruise regretted Estevez’ character dying so early in the movie. 

 

I just read that as well. It misses the whole point that the audience just assumed that being Estevez gave him plot armor that he didn't have. The one that shocked me was Kristin Scott Thomas. She had just been in Four Weddings and a Funeral, she was kind of "up and coming".

 

Seriously that cast was so perfect. Bit of a bummer about Phelps though.

 

Has there been a M:I movie where the villain wasn't either IMF or created by the IMF?

[Jay 37,369]

2 minutes ago, Tallguy said:

Has there been a M:I movie where the villain wasn't either IMF or created by the IMF?

 

Nope.

[Mr. Who 919]

10 minutes ago, Tallguy said:

 

I just read that as well. It misses the whole point that the audience just assumed that being Estevez gave him plot armor that he didn't have. The one that shocked me was Kristin Scott Thomas. She had just been in Four Weddings and a Funeral, she was kind of "up and coming".

 

Seriously that cast was so perfect. Bit of a bummer about Phelps though.

 

Has there been a M:I movie where the villain wasn't either IMF or created by the IMF?

The villain in Ghost Protocol is a Swedish scientist I think so he wasn't connected to the IMF. Solomon Lane was MI6.

[Jay 37,369]

Huh, I forgot that MI4 actually didn't do this trope.  I wonder if 7 and 8 will or not

[Mr. Who 919]

I just remembered that Owen Davian in MI3 is an arms dealer, not an IMF agent. Only MI1 and 2's villains have a past in the IMF, in MI5-6 Lane is MI6, which is a bit like IMF, and Lark is CIA.

[Tallguy 3,398]

15 minutes ago, Mr. Who said:

I just remembered that Owen Davian in MI3 is an arms dealer, not an IMF agent. Only MI1 and 2's villains have a past in the IMF, in MI5-6 Lane is MI6, which is a bit like IMF, and Lark is CIA.

 

Fair enough about the other intelligence agencies. (Although, still all friendly powers and agencies.) And in M:I 3 there was an inside guy.

 

Rogue Nation is by far the best one, but the moment in Fallout when they "blew up" the Vatican was a pretty decent fake out.

[greenturnedblue 372]

I always really liked the Dominic Cooper Howard Stark

[Tallguy 3,398]

47 minutes ago, greenturnedblue said:

I always really liked the Dominic Cooper Howard Stark

 

He's good in Cap 1. He's AMAAAAZING in Agent Carter. They stopped even kind of pretending that he wasn't Howard Hughes. (A really short Howard Hughes.) They even gave him the same girlfriends.

[Mr. Who 919]

I think I’ll rewatch Agent Carter this summer. I haven’t seen it since it aired,

[Sweeping Strings 2,363]

Hope that Hunt is still drawing breath by the end of the 8th film. No NTTD-esque downer ending, thank you very much. 

[Naïve Old Fart 9,534]

I'm pretty sure that Cruise would not countenance the idea.

[Nick1Ø66 4,718]

This is going to be the #1 box office hit of the year, bank on it.

[Gabriel Bezerra 302]

7 hours ago, Mr. Who said:

I think I’ll rewatch Agent Carter this summer. I haven’t seen it since it aired,

Every year or so the thought comes back to me, I rewatched The First Avenger recently and it came back, gotta find the time.

[Luke Skywalker 1,795]

17 hours ago, Tallguy said:

 

Fair enough about the other intelligence agencies. (Although, still all friendly powers and agencies.) And in M:I 3 there was an inside guy.

 

Rogue Nation is by far the best one, but the moment in Fallout when they "blew up" the Vatican was a pretty decent fake out.

All the M:I films are Hunt’s team either being branded as traitors or they working on they own bypassing IMF CEO orders, involving traitor members of IMF. Its ironic the films still work being a retreading of the same ideas….

[Sweeping Strings 2,363]

20 hours ago, Nick1Ø66 said:

This is going to be the #1 box office hit of the year, bank on it.

I honestly hope its and Indy's box-office leaves NTTD's in the dust. A message needs to be sent to EON, I think. 

[Naïve Old Fart 9,534]

Eon needs to completely rethink Bond, in the same way that Cubby did, after THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN.

[Brónach 1,302]

what else is there for Bond to do?

[Sweeping Strings 2,363]

3 minutes ago, Brónach said:

what else is there for Bond to do?

Be fun again. 

[Richard Penna 3,694]

Focus on gadgets, decent villains and ridiculous action. Not on Bond getting revenge for something.

[TolkienSS 407]

51 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

Eon needs to completely rethink Bond, in the same way that Cubby did, after THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN.

 

They need to pick up an Ian Fleming book again. That's all.

[Sweeping Strings 2,363]

Drop the 'this time it's personal to Bond/the 00 section must prove its relevance' stuff. 

Have M actually send him on the mission again. I think the last time this happened in the traditional sense was Casino Royale. 

Make him a casual sex enthusiast again, no more 'domestic bliss'. If necessary, have the script make it clear that this is because he takes his pleasures where he can because he could very well be dead tomorrow. If the 'wokeists' don't like it, fuck 'em. 

Want the villain to be contemporary? Having them developing AI for malevolent purposes could work. 

No more actors who will only play Bond if they can do so in a standalone arc and have him die at the end of it. 

[TolkienSS 407]

Or just keep in mind that James Bond is - gasp - a male fantasy story.

The last few were the literal antithesis of that.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,534]

7 hours ago, Brónach said:

what else is there for Bond to do?

 

Become again what he always was: a sexist, misogynist dinosaur, a relic of the cold war, a womaniser, a cold-blooded killer, a man who could blow your cover, a heavy-smoking, hard-drinking bastard, and not some emasculated woke "was he/wasn't he" dad, behavioural psychologists wet dream, who pines for some drowned bitch who betrayed him, and then dies with a soft toy stuffed down the front of his trousers.

[Edmilson 7,466]

15 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

and then dies with a soft toy stuffed down the front of his trousers.

You seem to know an awful lot about the physical characteristics of Bond’s genitalia.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,534]

Oh, come on. You know what I mean. He had that "Dou Dou" thing in his belt.

[Brónach 1,302]

4 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

 

Become again what he always was: a sexist, misogynist dinosaur, a relic of the cold war, a womaniser, a cold-blooded killer, a man who could blow your cover, a heavy-smoking, hard-drinking bastard, and not some emasculated woke "was he/wasn't he" dad, behavioural psychologists wet dream, who pines for some drowned bitch who betrayed him, and then dies with a soft toy stuffed down the front of his trousers.

 

i think i feel bored by both alternatives

 

i know i don't understand masculinity, or Bond, but being a dad or dying doesn't seem emasculating to me.

[Koray Savas 2,251]

We got 50 years of Bond films like that. The Craig-era was a fresh change. They should do something new and different with the character moving forward. 

[Jay 37,369]

The Craig era began 44 years after Dr. No, not 50 years after

[Chen G. 3,949]

On 17/05/2023 at 11:59 PM, Jay said:

  I wonder if 7 and 8 will or not

 

My understanding is 7 and 8 are the team's continuing tribulations with the Syndicate, no?

[thestat 348]

Let's hope Balfe picks up on those cues suggesting that he try a bit more

 

[Edmilson 7,466]

Apparently Cruise is furious with Oppenheimer opening one week later than his movie. That is because his new M:I would only get IMAX screens for a week.

 

https://www.esquireme.com/brief/tom-cruise-imax-oppenheimer

[Richard Penna 3,694]

On 01/06/2023 at 1:05 AM, thestat said:

Let's hope Balfe picks up on those cues suggesting that he try a bit more than simply phone in a sampled piece of bongo crap. Am listening now to the only highlight from his previous MI score (Freefall), well, all I can say is, ouch?

 

Based purely on the album I was extremely harsh on the score, but on seeing the film I think there are several highlight sequences. The exchange sequence and the chase across London also piqued my interest.

 

I found it a score of extremes - the balance is the usual dull, meandering stuff, but then a short-ish album can be made from the highlights which are far more interesting.

[Tallguy 3,398]

9 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

Apparently Cruise is furious with Oppenheimer opening one week later than his movie. That is because his new M:I would only get IMAX screens for a week.

 

https://www.esquireme.com/brief/tom-cruise-imax-oppenheimer

 

I'm afraid they're going to fight and we're going to lose.

[Smeltington 1,440]

Yeah that'll be annoying if there's only one week to catch MI in Imax. I guess there's some reason why they can't alternate screenings?

[JNHFan2000 2,966]

That's happening with more films this week.

 

Creed 3 had to give them to Scream VI and Scream VI to Du geons And Dragons.

 

Fast X to Little Mermaid and Little Mermaid to Across The Spider-Verse.

 

Spider-Verse will have to give them up to Transformers and a week later The Flash.

 

It's just very crowded

[Smeltington 1,440]

Strange that they don't work out a deal where IMAX can show more than one movie in the same week. Especially with so many releases in a row. I better go see Spiderverse before anything happens. Speaking of, I guess there's no 3D Spiderverse screenings... which is a shame, because the first movie was one of the most fun 3D movie experiences I've had.

[Stark 316]

I don’t think anything will pass Mario this year, but I do think this and Indy will be the second and third highest grossing films of the year.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,534]

20 hours ago, Edmilson said:

Apparently Cruise is furious with Oppenheimer opening one week later than his movie. That is because his new M:I would only get IMAX screens for a week.

 

Oh, boo fucking hoo!

He'll get over it.

[Jay 37,369]

 

[Tallguy 3,398]

I realize that this looks more involved and with fewer stunt performers, but "chase with handcuffs" was done first by Tomorrow Never Dies.

[Sweeping Strings 2,363]

It's around that point that TND starts being not quite as good as it had been up to then. 

[Naïve Old Fart 9,534]

"I've always been a fan of Chinese technology".