Edmilson 7,466 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 I'm happy for JNH, it's his first nom since Defiance back in 2009. In any case, it's obvious that R&R will win again, this time for Soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Happy for Mosseri and Blanchard! Refreshing nominees, to say the least. Reznor and Ross will win though. The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Yep, Reznor and Ross have it in the bag. I heard a few tracks on Spotify and I can't say they did anything for me. Shame, because I'm loving News of the World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 Quote OSCAR NOMINATIONS 2021 BY CATEGORY - 93rd AWARDS Best Picture THE FATHER David Parfitt, Jean-Louis Livi and Philippe Carcassonne, Producers JUDAS AND THE BLACK MESSIAH Shaka King, Charles D. King and Ryan Coogler, Producers MANK Ceán Chaffin, Eric Roth and Douglas Urbanski, Producers MINARI Christina Oh, Producer NOMADLAND Frances McDormand, Peter Spears, Mollye Asher, Dan Janvey and Chloé Zhao, Producers PROMISING YOUNG WOMAN Ben Browning, Ashley Fox, Emerald Fennell and Josey McNamara, Producers SOUND OF METAL Bert Hamelinck and Sacha Ben Harroche, Producers THE TRIAL OF THE CHICAGO 7 Marc Platt and Stuart Besser, Producers Actor in a Leading Role Riz Ahmed in SOUND OF METAL Chadwick Boseman in MA RAINEY'S BLACK BOTTOM Anthony Hopkins in THE FATHER Gary Oldman in MANK Steven Yeun in MINARI Actor in a Supporting Role Sacha Baron Cohen in THE TRIAL OF THE CHICAGO 7 Daniel Kaluuya in JUDAS AND THE BLACK MESSIAH Leslie Odom, Jr. in ONE NIGHT IN MIAMI... Paul Raci in SOUND OF METAL Lakeith Stanfield in JUDAS AND THE BLACK MESSIAH Actress in a Leading Role Viola Davis in MA RAINEY'S BLACK BOTTOM Andra Day in THE UNITED STATES VS. BILLIE HOLIDAY Vanessa Kirby in PIECES OF A WOMAN Frances McDormand in NOMADLAND Carey Mulligan in PROMISING YOUNG WOMAN Actress in a Supporting Role Maria Bakalova in BORAT SUBSEQUENT MOVIEFILM: DELIVERY OF PRODIGIOUS BRIBE TO AMERICAN REGIME FOR MAKE BENEFIT ONCE GLORIOUS NATION OF KAZAKHSTAN Glenn Close in HILLBILLY ELEGY Olivia Colman in THE FATHER Amanda Seyfried in MANK Yuh-Jung Youn in MINARI Animated Feature Film ONWARD Dan Scanlon and Kori Rae OVER THE MOON Glen Keane, Gennie Rim and Peilin Chou A SHAUN THE SHEEP MOVIE: FARMAGEDDON Richard Phelan, Will Becher and Paul Kewley SOUL Pete Docter and Dana Murray WOLFWALKERS Tomm Moore, Ross Stewart, Paul Young and Stéphan Roelants Cinematography JUDAS AND THE BLACK MESSIAH Sean Bobbitt MANK Erik Messerschmidt NEWS OF THE WORLD Dariusz Wolski NOMADLAND Joshua James Richards THE TRIAL OF THE CHICAGO 7 Phedon Papamichael Costume Design EMMA Alexandra Byrne MA RAINEY'S BLACK BOTTOM Ann Roth MANK Trish Summerville MULAN Bina Daigeler PINOCCHIO Massimo Cantini Parrini Directing ANOTHER ROUND Thomas Vinterberg MANK David Fincher MINARI Lee Isaac Chung NOMADLAND Chloé Zhao PROMISING YOUNG WOMAN Emerald Fennell Documentary (Feature) COLLECTIVE Alexander Nanau and Bianca Oana CRIP CAMP Nicole Newnham, Jim LeBrecht and Sara Bolder THE MOLE AGENT Maite Alberdi and Marcela Santibáñez MY OCTOPUS TEACHER Pippa Ehrlich, James Reed and Craig Foster TIME Garrett Bradley, Lauren Domino and Kellen Quinn Documentary (Short Subject) COLETTE Anthony Giacchino and Alice Doyard A CONCERTO IS A CONVERSATION Ben Proudfoot and Kris Bowers DO NOT SPLIT Anders Hammer and Charlotte Cook HUNGER WARD Skye Fitzgerald and Michael Scheuerman A LOVE SONG FOR LATASHA Sophia Nahli Allison and Janice Duncan Film Editing THE FATHER Yorgos Lamprinos NOMADLAND Chloé Zhao PROMISING YOUNG WOMAN Frédéric Thoraval SOUND OF METAL Mikkel E. G. Nielsen THE TRIAL OF THE CHICAGO 7 Alan Baumgarten International Feature Film ANOTHER ROUND Denmark BETTER DAYS Hong Kong COLLECTIVE Romania THE MAN WHO SOLD HIS SKIN Tunisia QUO VADIS, AIDA? Bosnia and Herzegovina Makeup and Hairstyling EMMA Marese Langan, Laura Allen and Claudia Stolze HILLBILLY ELEGY Eryn Krueger Mekash, Matthew Mungle and Patricia Dehaney MA RAINEY'S BLACK BOTTOM Sergio Lopez-Rivera, Mia Neal and Jamika Wilson MANK Gigi Williams, Kimberley Spiteri and Colleen LaBaff PINOCCHIO Mark Coulier, Dalia Colli and Francesco Pegoretti Music (Original Score) DA 5 BLOODS Terence Blanchard MANK Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross MINARI Emile Mosseri NEWS OF THE WORLD James Newton Howard SOUL Trent Reznor, Atticus Ross and Jon Batiste Music (Original Song) "Fight For You" from JUDAS AND THE BLACK MESSIAH Music by H.E.R. and Dernst Emile II; Lyric by H.E.R. and Tiara Thomas "Hear My Voice" from THE TRIAL OF THE CHICAGO 7 Music by Daniel Pemberton; Lyric by Daniel Pemberton and Celeste Waite "Husavik" from EUROVISION SONG CONTEST: THE STORY OF FIRE SAGA Music and Lyric by Savan Kotecha, Fat Max Gsus and Rickard Göransson "Io Sì (Seen)" from THE LIFE AHEAD (LA VITA DAVANTI A SE) Music by Diane Warren; Lyric by Diane Warren and Laura Pausini "Speak Now" from ONE NIGHT IN MIAMI... Music and Lyric by Leslie Odom, Jr. and Sam Ashworth Production Design THE FATHER Production Design: Peter Francis; Set Decoration: Cathy Featherstone MA RAINEY'S BLACK BOTTOM Production Design: Mark Ricker; Set Decoration: Karen O'Hara and Diana Stoughton MANK Production Design: Donald Graham Burt; Set Decoration: Jan Pascale NEWS OF THE WORLD Production Design: David Crank; Set Decoration: Elizabeth Keenan TENET Production Design: Nathan Crowley; Set Decoration: Kathy Lucas Short Film (Animated) BURROW Madeline Sharafian and Michael Capbarat GENIUS LOCI Adrien Mérigeau and Amaury Ovise IF ANYTHING HAPPENS I LOVE YOU Will McCormack and Michael Govier OPERA Erick Oh YES-PEOPLE Gísli Darri Halldórsson and Arnar Gunnarsson Short Film (Live Action) FEELING THROUGH Doug Roland and Susan Ruzenski THE LETTER ROOM Elvira Lind and Sofia Sondervan THE PRESENT Farah Nabulsi TWO DISTANT STRANGERS Travon Free and Martin Desmond Roe WHITE EYE Tomer Shushan and Shira Hochman Sound GREYHOUND Warren Shaw, Michael Minkler, Beau Borders and David Wyman MANK Ren Klyce, Jeremy Molod, David Parker, Nathan Nance and Drew Kunin NEWS OF THE WORLD Oliver Tarney, Mike Prestwood Smith, William Miller and John Pritchett SOUL Ren Klyce, Coya Elliott and David Parker SOUND OF METAL Nicolas Becker, Jaime Baksht, Michelle Couttolenc, Carlos Cortés and Phillip Bladh Visual Effects LOVE AND MONSTERS Matt Sloan, Genevieve Camilleri, Matt Everitt and Brian Cox THE MIDNIGHT SKY Matthew Kasmir, Christopher Lawrence, Max Solomon and David Watkins MULAN Sean Faden, Anders Langlands, Seth Maury and Steve Ingram THE ONE AND ONLY IVAN Nick Davis, Greg Fisher, Ben Jones and Santiago Colomo Martinez TENET Andrew Jackson, David Lee, Andrew Lockley and Scott Fisher Writing (Adapted Screenplay) BORAT SUBSEQUENT MOVIEFILM: DELIVERY OF PRODIGIOUS BRIBE TO AMERICAN REGIME FOR MAKE BENEFIT ONCE GLORIOUS NATION OF KAZAKHSTAN Screenplay by Sacha Baron Cohen & Anthony Hines & Dan Swimer & Peter Baynham & Erica Rivinoja & Dan Mazer & Jena Friedman & Lee Kern; Story by Sacha Baron Cohen & Anthony Hines & Dan Swimer & Nina Pedrad THE FATHER Screenplay by Christopher Hampton and Florian Zeller NOMADLAND Written for the screen by Chloé Zhao ONE NIGHT IN MIAMI... Screenplay by Kemp Powers THE WHITE TIGER Written for the screen by Ramin Bahrani Writing (Original Screenplay) JUDAS AND THE BLACK MESSIAH Screenplay by Will Berson & Shaka King; Story by Will Berson & Shaka King and Kenny Lucas & Keith Lucas MINARI Written by Lee Isaac Chung PROMISING YOUNG WOMAN Written by Emerald Fennell SOUND OF METAL Screenplay by Darius Marder & Abraham Marder; Story by Darius Marder & Derek Cianfrance THE TRIAL OF THE CHICAGO 7 Written by Aaron Sorkin The 93rd Oscars® will be held on Sunday, April 25, 2021, and will be televised live on ABC and in more than 225 countries and territories worldwide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 No idea why Soul is the front-runner. Such a bland and insubstantial score. It's good to see James Newton Howard get a nomination at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 Best Picture I've only seen 5 of the 8 nominees. Of the five I've seen, I'd rank them Sound of Metal Nomadlad Trial of the Chicago 7 Promising Young Woman Judas and the Black Messiah I have not see The Father, Mank, or Minari Actor in a Leading Role I have only seen Riz Ahmed in The Sound of Metal, and he was really great I don't know how he stacks up against the others because I haven't seen any of them Actor in a Supporting Role I've seen all of these except One Night In Miami; Paul Raci was terrific in Sound of Metal and I hope he wins; Baron Cohen was also good in Chicago 7. I was not that impressed with either guy from Judas and the Black Messiah Actress in a Leading Role Frances McDormand was great in Nomadland, but she's always great; I didn't like Cary Mulligan in Promising Young Woman at all, I thought she was completely miscast and played the role weirdly. Haven't seen the other 3 films. Actress in a Supporting Role I have not seen any of these films Animated Feature Film I have only seen Soul and liked it a lot, haven't seen any of the others but wanted to see Onward and Wolfwakers eventually Cinematography I've seen Judas and the Black Messiah, which had nothing special about its cinematography at all from what I remember; Ditto for Chicago 7. Nomadland looked nice but wasn't mind blowing. I've heard good things about News of the World's cinematography but haven't seen it. Directing I thought Chloe Zhao did a great job with Nomadland; Promising Young Woman was kind of oddly directed at times. Haven't seen the other 3 Music (Original Score) So far I have only listened to Mank and Soul as far as OST albums go and liked both, especially Soul. (Mank has a small amount of nice music and a huge amount of filler). I have not seen Da 5 Bloods, Minari, or News of the World nor heard their OST albums Music (Original Song) I would love it if the silly song from Eurovision wins Production Design I haven't sen any of these films Sound Come on, The Sound of Metal is a shoe-in to win this - and deservedly so. It was exceptionally good Visual Effects I have not seen any of these films (when was the last time I could say that about this category? Never, probably) Writing (Adapted Screenplay) I have only seen Nomadland, which is not really a film with a ton of dialogue, or at least not memorable dialogue; It is really the performances and direction that do the heavy lifting of storytelling here. Writing (Original Screenplay) I have seen all of these except Minari; Promising Young Woman and Judas did not impress me with their writing while Sound of Metal and Chicago 7 were interesting stories. Chicago 7 had clever dialogue so it'll probably win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 I bet Parasite will win. Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 I've seen about 90% of the nominated films (although very few in the short film category -- only ONE SMALL STEP). Many good films, but rather boring choices -- and so heavy on representation, it makes me throw up a little in my mouth. It's like they're shouting "LOOK AT US HOW REPRESENTATIVE WE ARE!". That being said, I'm thrilled to see LOVE & MONSTERS get some love. That was high up on my list this year, and even if it's "only" in the FX category (the film has so many other values), it's nice to see it up there. The only positive surprise for me, I think, among all these nominees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 I was sort of pleasantly surprised to see Sound of Metal get recognition for Actor, Supporting Actor, and sound - I thought it deserved those, but wasn't sure if the Academy would recognize the film at all; I was then pleasantly surprised to see it not only go those noms, but also got best Picture, Editing, and Original Screenplay too I was unpleasantly surprise to see Uncle Frank get completely shut out. WTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 On 2/10/2021 at 9:29 AM, Edmilson said: Oh really? So how do you explain JNH's News of the World being nominated for Golden Globes, the Critics Choice Awards and making the final list for the Oscar nominations? That's what you define as "anything of note"? It was a personal assessment, of course. Either way, my original point still stands. It doesn’t make sense to be mad at one score for getting attention over another composer’s, simply because that composer hasn’t been recognized in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 2 hours ago, The Big Man said: I bet Parasite will win. Joker is a shoe in for SCORE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Have to catch up on a lot but happy about all the Promising Young Woman stuff. TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom is very good. I think Chadwick Boseman will win. TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 He definitely will. And his performance was excellent. TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,222 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 I've seen seven of the Best Picture nominees - all but The Father. Overall this is a pretty good set of films (by comparison with typical Oscar standards), though if I were to select the eight best films of the year I don't think it would include more than a couple of these. In any case, there's a clear best picture and a clear least good one out of the line-up. Nomadland Minari Mank Sound of Metal Promising Young Woman Judas and the Black Messiah The Trial of the Chicago 7 The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted March 16, 2021 Author Share Posted March 16, 2021 What did you enjoy about Mank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,222 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Mank really went up in my estimation when I rewatched it. On the first viewing I thought it was decent but nothing special; it would have been near the bottom of list of nominees. But I watched it again recently and thought it was a blast. I think the semi-1940s style and the bifurcated storyline made it a challenge to engage with the first time, whereas the next time (being already acclimatised to the style and familiar with the narrative trajectory) it was much easier to sink in and enjoy the ride. As to what I enjoyed - primarily the screenplay (particularly the humour) and performances (Oldman, Seyfried and Dance especially). The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted March 16, 2021 Author Share Posted March 16, 2021 Interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 I wasn't that thrilled with MANK either upon first viewing, but I aim to see it again at some point. I did this article on it and the score a few months ago (pre-run through Google Translate). Glóin the Dark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,466 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Just listened to Blanchard's Da 5 Bloods for the second time. It's a great score, and perfect for that movie. I'd rank all the original scores nominated this year like this: News of the World Da 5 Bloods Soul Mank Minari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephariel 451 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1. Da 5 Bloods 2. Mank 3. Soul 4. News of the World Haven't heard Minari. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 On 3/16/2021 at 5:08 PM, Glóin the Dark said: Mank really went up in my estimation when I rewatched it. On the first viewing I thought it was decent but nothing special; it would have been near the bottom of list of nominees. But I watched it again recently and thought it was a blast. I think the semi-1940s style and the bifurcated storyline made it a challenge to engage with the first time, whereas the next time (being already acclimatised to the style and familiar with the narrative trajectory) it was much easier to sink in and enjoy the ride. As to what I enjoyed - primarily the screenplay (particularly the humour) and performances (Oldman, Seyfried and Dance especially). The way the movie is lit, I found it too frustrating for me to even consider a rewatch. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted April 15, 2021 Author Share Posted April 15, 2021 I enjoyed this comedic take on the Best Picture nominees - though admittedly, it probably helped that I've seen most of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 I just watched “The Father” and it’s a straight shootout between Anthony Hopkins and Chadwick Boseman for Beat Actor. I think Boseman will edge it but having seen Hopkins’ performance, it’s gonna be close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 I was surprised to see the overwhelmingly negative comments for MANK, on IMDB. Then I realized; if you are not familiar with the era it is set in and the subject it both celebrates and satirises- you will be bored and confused. It's far from perfect even if you have that background of knowledge. It might win for the same reason ARGO and other films about Hollywood win: self love On 2/3/2021 at 12:17 PM, Jay said: The Soul OST album is 64 minutes long 41 minutes of that is Reznor and Ross's original score 21 minutes of that is John Batiste's jazz tracks (no idea how much of this is old standards redone vs new compositions) And then 2 minutes is source songs I have no idea how much additional music is in the film but not on the OST Is that a download or CD? On 3/9/2021 at 10:37 AM, Edmilson said: BAFTA nominees for Best Original Score: Mank – Trent Reznor & Atticus RossMinari – Emile MosseriNews of the World – James Newton HowardPromising Young Woman – Anthony WillisSoul – Trent Reznor, Atticus Ross & Jon Batiste http://filmmusicreporter.com/2021/03/09/2021-bafta-nominations-announced/ I guess BAFTA cares more about " virtue signalling" and being " politically correct" as OSCAR does.😒 You guys.😡 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 59 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: I guess BAFTA cares more about " virtue signalling" and being " politically correct" as OSCAR does.😒 You guys.😡 Infinitely more. Bafta fraudulently abandoned a democratic voting system and went to a committee system where nominations in most categories are now decided by 5-6 people - not the entire branch. And what does the 5-6 member committee do? Why stack every category with diversity. Bafta literally even said so - that that is what their mandate is. Where is even the merit in these awards anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,222 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 There isn't any, just as with the Oscars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 So There was some pure Golden age where ' merit' ruled? Are you kidding me? Bernard Herrmann didn't even get a NOMINATION for thirty years! Why? Because people didn't like his ' personality'. Elfman didn't get even a NOMINATION for BATMAN. Why? Because he didn't have the alleged ' credentials'. Are you saying Grammy noms- which usually mirror AMPAS- are also based on of ' diversity'.? Look, I've railed against ' forced diversity' in casting actors, but you're coming very close to bigotry in your rant against BatisTE. He deserved it. Rossreznor deserved it. Rules? LAST EMPEREOR had three winners- one who composed a tiny fraction of the score. You can take your rules and throw it in the garbage in this case. BatisTE made a significant contribution. I could care less if it's fifteen..twenty...or five percent( whatever that means). It's an art form.not a parliamentary election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephariel 451 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 3 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said: Infinitely more. Bafta fraudulently abandoned a democratic voting system and went to a committee system where nominations in most categories are now decided by 5-6 people - not the entire branch. And what does the 5-6 member committee do? Why stack every category with diversity. Bafta literally even said so - that that is what their mandate is. Where is even the merit in these awards anymore. The problem is the bias of "merit" that led to diversity inclusion. Merit becomes very indistinguishable between nominees at the top any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 I'd be happy if all awards were done away with. If the current craze for " diversity" helps make that happen- bring it on !😝 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 If Mank wins for Best Cinematography then I really wish a professional cinematographer would explain why. The lighting in Mank looks downright terrible (as in 'completely absent'). And look at the artificial blooming! I often love FIncher's cinematography (Seven, Mindhunter, ... ) but I never expected that it would baffle me the way it did in Mank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Listen up boys and girls. MANK was shot in a style that mimicked CITIZEN KANE ( and other films of the era) by using black and white and lighting patterns employed by Welles. The rear projection and mattes ( I.e. special fx) are deliberately made to look fake. Day for night photography is utilized. It even featured reel change markings and intentionally degraded the film ( PLANET TERROR did the same thing). It's a matter of taste if you like it or not. But it's intentional and distinctive This has been another troll post by Bruce M. On 4/15/2021 at 11:17 AM, Jay said: I enjoyed this comedic take on the Best Picture nominees - though admittedly, it probably helped that I've seen most of them Nice! The funniest bit for me was the guy living in a studio apartment who resents his neighbors having parties. Because, " I'm being responsible". 😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 If their goal was to make Mank look like it was shot like CK, then they failed miserably. CK does very dazzling things with composition, staging, contrast and focal lengths, but Fincher struggles to replicate any of that accurately. It reminds me of all that talk when KOTCS was released and Kaminski was all blah-blah-blah about how he strived to replicate Slocombe's visuals... yeah right, just look at that thing, it sticks out like dogs' balls. TheUlyssesian and bruce marshall 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 You know it's gonna win Best Cinematography😜 Hopkins would be a lock - has anybody playing a person going crazy and/or dying if a disease ever lost? But, we have " the first Muslim" actor nominated so he'll get it. Oscar love firsts! And a film about a Chinese immigrant family? Yeah. It'll win. Btw I only know this from watching HONEST TRAILERS. CHICAGO SEVEN should win but it's mostly about white guys.😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 55 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: Hopkins would be a lock - has anybody playing a person going crazy and/or dying if a disease ever lost? Maybe not, but he will when he's up against Boseman - given his recent death, and the whole 'diversity' wave (incidentally, I thought MA RAINEY'S BLACK BOTTOM was a stale and uninteresting film). I haven't yet seen THE FATHER, but I'm looking forward to it. Hopkins is my second-favourite actor of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 I know nothing about the Bozeman flick but, yeah, he will win for the reasons you mentioned. Unless 'the Muslim' wins( I'm quoting actual news reports) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: 'the Muslim' What's that? An ironic muslim? bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 What about Rami Melek? Doesn't he count or is religion what counts now? Oscar won't be truly woke until an atheist wins best actor. It's long overdue. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 2 hours ago, bruce marshall said: Listen up boys and girls. MANK was shot in a style that mimicked CITIZEN KANE ( and other films of the era) by using black and white and lighting patterns employed by Welles. The rear projection and mattes ( I.e. special fx) are deliberately made to look fake. Day for night photography is utilized. It even featured reel change markings and intentionally degraded the film ( PLANET TERROR did the same thing). It's a matter of taste if you like it or not. But it's intentional and distinctive Too bad color stock was too expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 It was shot in 8k digital! MANK definitely does not deserve Best Score. It's basically a riff on Herrmans music which a first year music student could pull off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Unlucky Bastard said: If their goal was to make Mank look like it was shot like CK, then they failed miserably. CK does very dazzling things with composition, staging, contrast and focal lengths, but Fincher struggles to replicate any of that accurately. It reminds me of all that talk when KOTCS was released and Kaminski was all blah-blah-blah about how he strived to replicate Slocombe's visuals... yeah right, just look at that thing, it sticks out like dogs' balls. In fact, in Blade Runner, Ridley Scott copied Citizen Kane better than Fincher did in Mank. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 OK, so if Boseman wins it’s because of virtue-signalling Hollywood wokeness and if Hopkins wins it’s because he deserves it. Got it! Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 I watched an interview with Fincher where he explicitly said he did not want or try to make Mank look like Kane. So Cremers and Drax’s comments are completely irrelevant. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,363 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Hmm, the only nominated film I've seen is Tenet. Such is the effect of cinemas being mostly closed for a year and me having no interest in paid-for streaming platforms, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 38 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I watched an interview with Fincher where he explicitly said he did not want or try to make Mank look like Kane. So Cremers and Drax’s comments are completely irrelevant. Sorry, but I never claimed that, Bruce did. It does explain my previous post though ... But now it's your word against his! The fact that he shot it in B&W is already a nod to CK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Fincher fucking chickened out with his cute cigarette burns on a digitally shot digitally finished wide screen movie. If he truly wanted the movie to look like citizen kane, he would have the balls to shoot on grainy film and in the academy ratio. Just in 2019 Lighthouse did that and looks amazing. Not to mention the The Artist and several other films. Fucking Zack Snyder released a nearly 400 mil superhero movie in the 4:3 ratio but not Fincher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 minute ago, TheUlyssesian said: If he truly wanted the movie to look like citizen kane Except he didnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted April 23, 2021 Author Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Disco Stu said: I watched an interview with Fincher where he explicitly said he did not want or try to make Mank look like Kane. So Cremers and Drax’s comments are completely irrelevant. 1 hour ago, AC1 said: Sorry, but I never claimed that 2 hours ago, AC1 said: In fact, in Blade Runner, Ridley Scott copied Citizen Kane better than Fincher did in Mank. 4 hours ago, Unlucky Bastard said: If their goal was to make Mank look like it was shot like CK, then they failed miserably. bruce marshall and A24 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Still looks like shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Seems like Jay and Disco don't understand that we were merely responding to Bruce's claim that Mank's cinematography is meant to mimic CK. It's clear that, if this is indeed the case, we don't think Fincher did a good job, hence the nature of our reaction. 7 minutes ago, Unlucky Bastard said: Still looks like shit. I sometimes wonder why people don't see it. Maybe my HDR was incompatible and killed the lighting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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