Ridley Scott's NAPOLEON (Martin Phipps, 2023)

[Jay 37,372]

Ridley Scott Has a ‘Fantastic’ Cut of ‘Napoleon’ That Runs Four-and-a-Half Hours and Features Way More Joséphine

[Thor 7,518]

1 minute ago, Jay said:

Ridley Scott Has a ‘Fantastic’ Cut of ‘Napoleon’ That Runs Four-and-a-Half Hours and Features Way More Joséphine

 

Ah. Get KINGDOM OF HEAVEN vibes here.

[Indianagirl 298]

Just as long as I can one day own it on Blu Ray

[Brónach 1,302]

i knew it.

[A24 4,345]

I would need 5 evenings to watch that cut.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,551]

It would be worth it 

[Bayesian 1,363]

On 29/8/2023 at 11:56 AM, Indianagirl said:

Just as long as I can one day own it on Blu Ray

4K blu-ray. In special edition packaging. Fingers crossed!

[Naïve Old Fart 9,551]

"So, when are going to watch the extended cut of NAPOLEON?"

"Not tonight, Josephine".

[TolkienSS 407]

On 03/08/2023 at 5:33 PM, Jay said:

I finally saw the trailer last night. LOOKS good, as in the cinematography and set design was terrific. The trailer didn't do a good job of making me interested in the characters or story. 

 

You can literally read the characters and story on any history site or Wikipedia.

 

Spoiler: he loses at Waterloo

WHAAAAAAT

[A24 4,345]

Some say that this is where the word 'loo' comes from.

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

1 minute ago, AC1 said:

Some say that this is where the word 'loo' comes from.

They should have included that in the trailer

[Edmilson 7,470]

Anyone else misses the time when pop songs also taught you history lessons?

 

 

[Naïve Old Fart 9,551]

It's from the Dutch meaning "water", and "forest clearing".

It could also mean "place where Napoleon need a toilet, because he'd just shat himself".

To commemorate our victory, the Brits built a "fuck off" train station.

[Tom Guernsey 2,286]

2 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

It's from the Dutch meaning "water", and "forest clearing".

It could also mean "place where Napoleon need a toilet, because he'd just shat himself".

To commemorate our victory, the Brits built a "fuck off" train station.

Which, ironically, used to be the place to take passengers directly to France on the Eurostar...

 

2 hours ago, Edmilson said:

Anyone else misses the time when pop songs also taught you history lessons?

 

 

ABBA can have the end credits, if The Divine Comedy can have the opening credits or a mid-movie montage...

 

 

[A24 4,345]

Do Americans know ABBA besides Dancing Queen?

[Tom Guernsey 2,286]

21 minutes ago, AC1 said:

Do Americans know ABBA besides Dancing Queen?

Not American (!), but my favourite ABBA song is I Am the City even though it's probably one of their most obscure tracks that didn't feature on any of their original albums.

[Jay 37,372]

On 29/08/2023 at 2:31 PM, Jay said:

Ridley Scott Has a ‘Fantastic’ Cut of ‘Napoleon’ That Runs Four-and-a-Half Hours and Features Way More Joséphine

 

Ridley Scott says His 4-hour Director’s Cut of ‘Napoleon’ to be Released on Apple TV+

[Jay 37,372]

 

[A24 4,345]

He's completely believable as Napoleon. 

[Jurassic Shark 12,083]

That original music by Phipps?

[JNHFan2000 2,967]

Really looking forward to this!

 

Also wondering what the score will be like. And I feel like the battle scenes will be unscored

 

 

Edit: This is some answer to my own question.

 

 

 

 

[A24 4,345]

I think it will end with Napoleon being exiled to the island of Elba. 

[Edmilson 7,470]

So the post-credits scene will be Napoleon escaping his prison, like he did in 1815? Then we'll get Return of Napoleon in two to three years.

[Edmilson 7,470]

4 hours ago, JNHFan2000 said:

Edit: This is some answer to my own question.

 

 

Did this guy work on the movie? If so, since he wouldn't criticize it, the question is qhat good things he would say about it and "Refreshingly thematic" implies that this score has more themes than the usual film score we see these days. I just hope his themes are good!

[JNHFan2000 2,967]

33 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

Did this guy work on the movie? If so, since he wouldn't criticize it, the question is qhat good things he would say about it and "Refreshingly thematic" implies that this score has more themes than the usual film score we see these days. I just hope his themes are good!

He is the music editor and the composer of the period music in the film

[Richard Penna 3,694]

So he's the worst possible person to ask for an objective, non backslapping view on the score.

 

Although that could be a way of hinting that we're not getting an RCP score.

[Bayesian 1,363]

Thanksgiving can’t get here soon enough! It’s going to play on 70mm, meaning it’s the AMC Metreon for me.

[A24 4,345]

On 19/10/2023 at 5:36 PM, Bayesian said:

Thanksgiving can’t get here soon enough! It’s going to play on 70mm, meaning it’s the AMC Metreon for me.

 

You don't want to wait for the 4-hours Director's Cut? 

[Richard Penna 3,694]

Anything approaching that length should be a TV/streaming series instead. No way in hell I'd sit down somewhere other than home to watch that.

[Bayesian 1,363]

35 minutes ago, Richard Penna said:

Anything approaching that length should be a TV/streaming series instead. No way in hell I'd sit down somewhere other than home to watch that.

Exactly. Well, the sitting-at-home part of it. I don't mind if the film itself nears 4 hours in the extended cut. Plus, we still have Spielberg's Napoleon series in development, AFAIK, for anyone looking for a miniseries treatment. (Woo hoo!)

[Thor 7,518]

It annoys me that I'm missing out on the IMAX press screening on November 21st, due to another obligation that collides. I would have wanted to see it on the biggest big screen. Hopefully, it will have enough of a regular run in normal theatres, so I'll be able to watch it that way, before it lands on streaming services.

[JNHFan2000 2,967]

56 minutes ago, Richard Penna said:

Anything approaching that length should be a TV/streaming series instead. No way in hell I'd sit down somewhere other than home to watch that.

If the extended cut is just at home, why should it be a series instead. In can still be a long film.

 

And would you never go to a cinema to watch a long film?

[Edmilson 7,470]

I'll probably take a week to watch the entire 4 hour thing... Sigh.

 

But even if I was going to watch the entire thing in one sit this is still an Apple movie, right? Which means it'll have to wait until Severance S2, whenever that comes out. 

[Richard Penna 3,694]

1 hour ago, JNHFan2000 said:

If the extended cut is just at home, why should it be a series instead. In can still be a long film.

 

And would you never go to a cinema to watch a long film?

 

Well yes, series or film, not fussed there - it's mainly the aspect of having to sit in a cinema for four hours straight that I wouldn't do these days.

[JNHFan2000 2,967]

Bit of Phipps' music in this clip

 

 

[Richard Penna 3,694]

Surprisingly modern scoring - Horns of Doom, vocals, the lot. I was half expecting some classical-based chamber score for some reason. I quite like it.

[Miz 139]

Editing feels a bit too fast to give it the gravitas it deserves.

Anyway, I've only popped into this thread to ask...

 

Does Ridley Scott choose a new composer every time because he's frustrated that no composer can ever match his vision? Or does no composer ever want to work with Ridley Scott twice? Or both!?

[A24 4,345]

7 minutes ago, Miz said:

Editing feels a bit too fast to give it the gravitas it deserves.

Anyway, I've only popped into this thread to ask...

 

Does Ridley Scott choose a new composer every time because he's frustrated that no composer can ever match his vision? Or does no composer ever want to work with Ridley Scott twice? Or both!?

 

Vangelis: Blade Runner and 1492

[Naïve Old Fart 9,551]

2 hours ago, Miz said:

Editing feels a bit too fast to give it the gravitas it deserves.

 

Every "epic" battle scene wants to be either Kubrick, or Lean.

This looks more like GLADIATOR.

[Jurassic Shark 12,083]

15 hours ago, JNHFan2000 said:

Bit of Phipps' music in this clip

 

 

 

The army seriously didn't realise they were walking on ice? Sounds like pure fiction to me.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,551]

"Get a life".

R. Scott, esq.

[Nick1Ø66 4,719]

1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said:

 

The army seriously didn't realise they were walking on ice? Sounds like pure fiction to me.

 

There's actually some historical accounts which support this, so I wouldn't describe it as "pure fiction". Though what actually happened is controversial among historians. It did happen, but likely not in the way, or to the extent, it's portrayed in the trailers.

 

In any event, it's not as if Scott made it up out of thin air, and given its obvious cinematic value, I can't blame him for including it.

 

Firing cannons at the Pyramids, however, is almost certainly pure fiction.

[Jurassic Shark 12,083]

2 minutes ago, Nick1Ø66 said:

In any event, it's not as if Scott made it up out of thin air, and given its obvious cinematic value, I can't blame him for including it.

 

The problem with including it is that it makes the enemy less of a threat. 

[Nick1Ø66 4,719]

2 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

 

The problem with including it is that it makes the enemy less of a threat. 

 

Yeah but it looks cool.

[A24 4,345]

42 minutes ago, Nick1Ø66 said:

 

Firing cannons at the Pyramids, however, is almost certainly pure fiction.

 

Or at the Sphinx's nose.

 

 

[Jurassic Shark 12,083]

1 hour ago, Nick1Ø66 said:

 

Yeah but it looks cool.

 

Can't deny that.

[A24 4,345]

To think that critics in 1977 praised The Duellists for historical authenticity ... 

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

Historical accuracy is maybe the least important thing in a historical epic.  If I wanted historical accuracy I'd read a textbook

[Jurassic Shark 12,083]

Disagreed.

[filmmusic 1,838]

17 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

Disagreed.

So, let's say Amadeus, which isn't historically accurate, is a bad film?