Popular Post Amer 2,136 Posted May 1 Popular Post Share Posted May 1 LLL Announces TORN CURTAIN Music Composed and Conducted By John Addison Unused score Composed and Conducted by Bernard Herrmann Coming May 7th Jay, Fabulin, crocodile and 7 others 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,516 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 Wow very cool! Surely a Mike Matessino-produced entry into the Universal Classics line! JTN and Amer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,382 Posted May 1 Popular Post Share Posted May 1 That artwork is fantastic! Bravo LLL and whoever they commissioned for the art design. Holko, Trope, Yavar Moradi and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksparrow900 35 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 We now have every Universal Hitchcock Score released besides PSYCHO. I believe this is also the first time Bernard Herrmann's score for Torn Curtain being released not a rerecording like before. Badzeee and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,516 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 3 minutes ago, jacksparrow900 said: I believe this is also the first time Bernard Herrmann's score for Torn Curtain being released not a rerecording like before. Elmer Bernstein recorded it with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra in 1977 and Joel McNeely recorded it with the National Philharmonic Orchestra in 1998 Original recording has never been released before Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,474 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 I have the Varese OST of Addison's Torn Curtain score and I have to say, there is not really music that I am missing that would justify an expansion and the sound is ok. The only thing, that annoys me, is that the Love Theme track is faded out instead of having a proper ending. Would be great if the expansion would have the actual ending of the track. Apart from that, the score is really great. The Herrmann score on the other hand never did much for me. But for sure it is interesting to hear Herrmann's own recording. But for everyone who doesn't know the score yet big recommendation. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,719 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 I like both scores. The film is decidedly so-so, but it has some nifty matte paintings, courtesy of Albert Whitlock, and a rather gruesome death scene, involving a German guy, and a gas oven. Yavar Moradi and GerateWohl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,319 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 Im relying on JWFAN for LLL info since they blocked me from FB. Thanks for these updates!😊 Stark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,136 Posted May 1 Author Share Posted May 1 1 hour ago, Jay said: Elmer Bernstein recorded it with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra in 1977 and Joel McNeely recorded it with the National Philharmonic Orchestra in 1998 Original recording has never been released before Just about 3 cues were released on CD compilation before. Prelude (TORN CURTAIN) Bernard Herrmann (previously unreleased) The Ship (TORN CURTAIN) Bernard Herrmann (Previously unreleased) The radiogram (TORN CURTAIN) Bernard Herrmann (Previously unreleased) CD on HIP O RECORDS: ALFRED HITCHCOCK PRESENTS: SIGNATURES IN SUSPENSE (1999) https://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/6335/Torn+Curtain Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,321 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 25 minutes ago, Amer said: Just about 3 cues were released on CD compilation before. Prelude (TORN CURTAIN) Bernard Herrmann (previously unreleased) The Ship (TORN CURTAIN) Bernard Herrmann (Previously unreleased) The radiogram (TORN CURTAIN) Bernard Herrmann (Previously unreleased) CD on HIP O RECORDS: ALFRED HITCHCOCK PRESENTS: SIGNATURES IN SUSPENSE (1999) https://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/6335/Torn+Curtain Oh yeah I have that album! But this will be an instant buy (along with the recent slew of Intrada stuff). I like Addison’s score, it’s fun and the main theme is memorable. I like Herrmann’s original too of course but it’s pretty grim stuff which likely would have made the film a whole lot darker. 1 hour ago, Jay said: Elmer Bernstein recorded it with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra in 1977 and Joel McNeely recorded it with the National Philharmonic Orchestra in 1998 Original recording has never been released before The Elmer version has less music but isn’t missing anything critical and is probably the best “album presentation” of Herrmann’s score, well performed in great sound. The McNeely one is perhaps one of the most infamous new recordings of a score, notorious (oops, wrong Hitchcock film…) for its muddy sound. Sadly hard to provide much of a provide much of a robust defence as it doesn’t do the music or (perfectly decent) performance any favours. I don’t think it could even be saved with a remix as the reverb is inherent in the recording. Of course the original tracks will be dry as a bone… Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,242 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 LLL and Quartet are the two best labels, no question about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,516 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 3 hours ago, Amer said: 3 cues were released on CD compilation before I forgot! Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,064 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 More Grumpy Benny is always good. 😀 Karol JTN and Ollie 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,770 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 This is a score where I'd be casually interested in noting the stylistic differences between the scores, i,e. checking out the samples. I can't remember all the circumstances around the rejection, but iirc Hitchcock wanted a more modern 'pop' score and Herrmann disagreed and just wrote what he wanted to, and found out the hard way that film scoring needs collaboration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,654 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 Yes, "Mancini-like" is what I believe was thrown around, after which Herrmann said "then why don't you hire Mancini?" or some such thing. I'm paraphrasing. The Addison is fine enough, but not something that I feel an urge to return to all the time. Sampled the rerecording of Herrmann's rejected score years ago, but didn't make much of an impact then. I'd be willing to reevaluate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,650 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 5 hours ago, Jay said: Wow very cool! Surely a Mike Matessino-produced entry into the Universal Classics line! Maybe, but the Universal Music Group-owned original Addison soundtrack album might likely mean it’s not in that line. All of those so far have been premiere releases without the complication of original album rights. The only exceptions were Two Mules for Sister Sara and Topaz, where there wasn’t a perpetuity situation on the album rights. Still, almost certainly Matessino-produced even if not technically in that “line”. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,242 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 I guess it's time for me to watch the film. My Hitchcock-knowledge is rather limited. I've only seen Psycho, North by Northwest, The Birds, The Trouble with Harry, Family Plot (because of the JW score), the beginning of Vertigo, the beginning of Lifeboat, the first third of Spellbound (because of the Miklós Rózsa score), the first ten minutes of Rear Window, the first five minutes of Topaz. So far Psycho was my favourite, somehow I never really connected with Hitch's films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,650 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 Seems like you're mainly familiar with later Hitchcock. Maybe you'd like his earlier stuff better (the Warner Bros. held stuff rather than the Universal held stuff). I for one really loved Stage Fright, on the WB set. I do highly recommend you watch all of Rear Window and Vertigo (the latter has its problems but it's *so* great visually). I think Hitchcock's most perfect film might be Notorious. Topaz has one excellent sequence but otherwise I really don't care for much. It might tie with Shadow of a Doubt as my least favorite Hitchcock. I also really don't care for Spellbound. Lifeboat is pretty good but after the opening great Friedhofer cue, no score at all! I also enjoy Foreign Correspondent, Saboteur, The 39 Steps, and The Lady Vanishes. To Catch a Thief is fun but very lightweight. I would say I'm a fan of Hitchcock and even in his very worst films there is *some* element I like, however small. But he's much more hit or miss for me than say Billy Wilder. And Billy Wilder is more hit or miss for me than say Akira Kurosawa. Yavar Andy and JTN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,523 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 1 hour ago, Thor said: Yes, "Mancini-like" is what I believe was thrown around, after which Herrmann said "then why don't you hire Mancini?" or some such thing. I'm paraphrasing. The Addison is fine enough, but not something that I feel an urge to return to all the time. Sampled the rerecording of Herrmann's rejected score years ago, but didn't make much of an impact then. I'd be willing to reevaluate. Wasn't it "if you want "that kind of crap" (score to Laura) go hire Raksin"? Or am I mixing it up with some other Herrmann anecdote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,654 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 No, I think it was Mancini. But I wouldn't be surprised if he said something like that in another setting. Sounds like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,719 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 35 minutes ago, JTN said: I guess it's time for me to watch the film. My Hitchcock-knowledge is rather limited. I've only seen Psycho, North by Northwest, The Birds, The Trouble with Harry, Family Plot (because of the JW score), the beginning of Vertigo, the beginning of Lifeboat, the first third of Spellbound (because of the Miklós Rózsa score), the first ten minutes of Rear Window, the first five minutes of Topaz. So far Psycho was my favourite, somehow I never really connected with Hitch's films. You really need to watch REBECCA. JTN and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,242 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 I’m planning to. 10 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said: Lifeboat is pretty good but after the opening great Friedhofer cue, no score at all! According to Hitchcock the orchestra wouldn’t fit in the boat with the passengers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,250 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 18 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said: I think Hitchcock's most perfect film might be Notorious. The one that so worried the German dubbers that they turned the Nazis into cocaine smugglers… I keep confusing it with that Suspicion, also with Cary Grant (the one with the glass of milk that had a light bulb in it while shooting). I loved that, but haven't seen it in 20+ years. One of the best earlier-ish ones (based on only one viewing so far) is Shadow of a Doubt. JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,064 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 3 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: The one that so worried the German dubbers that they turned the Nazis into cocaine smugglers… I keep confusing it with that Suspicion, also with Cary Grant (the one with the glass of milk that had a light bulb in it while shooting). I loved that, but haven't seen it in 20+ years. One of the best earlier-ish ones (based on only one viewing so far) is Shadow of a Doubt. Shadow of a Doubt is amazing. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,319 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 2 hours ago, crocodile said: A Shadow of Doubt is amazing. Karol Even better... STRANGERS ON A TRAIN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Amer 2,136 Posted May 7 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 7 “TORN CURTAIN: REMASTERED & EXPANDED LIMITED EDITION” Universal Pictures Film Music Classics Collection Music composed and conducted by John Addison Unused score recording composed and conducted by Bernard Herrmann Limited Edition of 3000 Units RETAIL PRICE: $22.98 STARTS SHIPPING MAY 14 STARTS SHIPPING MAY 14 Available to order on MAY 7, 2024 starting at 12 noon (pst) at www.lalalandrecords.com La-La Land Records and Universal Studios proudly present the twentieth title within the acclaimed Universal Pictures Film Music Classics Collection – TORN CURTAIN, a remastered and expanded limited edition CD release of the original motion picture score to the 1966 dramatic thriller directed by the legendary Alfred Hitchcock, and starring Paul Newman and Julie Andrews. This special release, produced in partnership with Universal Music Enterprises, showcases the original film score, composed and conducted by John Addison (THE ENTERTAINER, TOM JONES) as well as the film’s unused score recording by Bernard Herrmann (VERTIGO, PSYCHO). With ’60s era pop sensibilities infused throughout, composer John Addison’s score to TORN CURTAIN marked a musical departure for Hitchcock, providing a notable contemporary style and sound for its time. Addison’s work lends a bright sense of fun and romance to the film, in addition to expertly satisfying the story’s requirements for drama and suspense. Composer Bernard Herrmann’s final work for Hitchcock is a darker, more traditional affair, demonstrating the renowned maestro’s excellence in the grand tradition of his previous collaborations with the director. Produced, edited and mastered by Mike Matessino from high resolution transfers of pristine 3-track stereo vault masters, this special presentation features Addison’s score sounding better than ever, and expanded by almost double the running time of the 1966 Decca album. Herrmann’s unused score presents all material he captured during his one day of recording for the film. Herrmann’s material here is expanded by more than eight minutes beyond what was previously released in 1999. Limited to 3000 units, this CD release includes exclusive, in-depth liner notes by author Jeff Bond and sharp art direction by Dan Goldwasser. TRACK LISTING: MUSIC COMPOSED AND CONDUCTED BY JOHN ADDISON SCORE PRESENTATION 1. Main Title From Torn Curtain 2:24 2. Code One 0:35 3. The Love Theme From Torn Curtain (Extended Version) 3:25 4. Book Store 2:05 5. First Premonitions 2:28 6. Behind The Curtain (Extended Version) 3:11 7. More Premonitions 1:39 8. Sarah Alone 1:49 9. East Berlin At Dawn 2:32 10. First Introduction To ‘Pi’ 1:19 11. The Murder Of Gromek (Extended Version) 3:19 12. Sarah And Superimposures 4:44 13. Michael And Sarah – Alone On The Hill 1:24 14. Phone Wire / Hole In The Ground / Caution 3:57 15. Escape On The ‘Pi’ Bus (Part 1) 3:45 16. Escape On The ‘Pi’ Bus (Part 2) 4:12 17. Escape On The ‘Pi’ Bus (Part 3) 2:29 18. Finale From Torn Curtain 2:06 19. Variations On The Love Theme From Torn Curtain 1:17 TOTAL SCORE TIME: 49:41 ADDITIONAL MUSIC 20. Torn Curtain Love Theme Instrumental 1:37 21. The Love Theme From Torn Curtain (Alternate Segment) 2:42 22. First Premonitions (Alternate) 2:24 23. Behind The Curtain (Alternate Segment) 1:33 24. End Title From Torn Curtain (Alternate) 1:18 25. The Love Theme From Torn Curtain (Green Years) 1:36 Performed by The Johnny Mann Singers Lyrics by Jay Livingston and Ray Evans TOTAL TIME: 11:27 THE UNUSED SCORE RECORDING COMPOSED AND CONDUCTED BY BERNARD HERRMANN 26. Torn Curtain Prelude 2:13 27. The Ship 0:54 28. The Radiogram 1:55 29. The Hotel 0:40 30. The Bookstore 1:38 31. The Book 1:52 32. The Travel Desk / The Blurring 1:29 33. The Killing 2:19 34. Torn Curtain Prelude (Alternate Take) 2:01 TOTAL TIME: 15:20 TOTAL DISC TIME: 76:36 Edmilson, Jay and GerateWohl 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,474 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 26 minutes ago, Amer said: 3. The Love Theme From Torn Curtain (Extended Version) 3:25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,516 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Still no newsletter email for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,516 Posted May 7 Popular Post Share Posted May 7 Samples & Direct Order https://lalalandrecords.com/torn-curtain-expanded-remastered-limited-edition/ JTN, Amer and Yavar Moradi 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,242 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 6 hours ago, Jay said: Still no newsletter email for me Do you want mine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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