King Mark 3,631 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 :cry: K.M.Feeling dreadful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diskobolus 3 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 !(*$@(P!YP&Y#%!^!#^!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Well, there it goes. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTennisBallKid 17 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Fools!ttbk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 I can't believe Morlock was wrong!Again.Neil - who was hoping they were going to say "Jan Williams" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Fnuh!- Marc, back to bed. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoby12 0 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 John Williams could fart a better score than that BS. At least Newman didn't win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Disappointing but not surprising or devastating. He's still got those other 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diskobolus 3 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 No, at least Debney didn't win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 At least Newman didn't win.If that were the case, I was ready to say..."Neeewwwwmmmaaannnnn." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPFAN_2 0 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 This doesn't make a difference, we all know Williams is better than all those people combined who cares if the "academy" doesn't think that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted February 28, 2005 Author Share Posted February 28, 2005 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! To Be Continued.... K.M. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooK.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Well, my third choice won and I'm not surprised. Finding Neverland is a wonderful score, but it is just not in the same league as The Village or PoA. And this would've continued the 11-year period between Oscars for JW.....oh well. :cool: Ray Barnsbury-rooting for Silvestri for best song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoby12 0 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 If he wrote a Mahler symphony I dont think the man could even win with that at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted February 28, 2005 Author Share Posted February 28, 2005 I believe Williams will never win again nowK.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 From the FSM board:Williams looked pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 $!$!@!@!#%%#%^%#!$!$@!$#%#%#!$@##%T$!$~!KKKKAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHNNNNNNNNNNN!Max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Here's to #6 for Geisha! :cool: Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxbabe 28 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Also my 3rd choice. Not surprised, Finding Neverland was predicted from what I've read. To be fair, it really was a very good score.The Village and POA were vastly superior though. They didn't show the nominees enough, though the scoring session clips were cool. Williams' reaction was kind of politely disappointed, and JNH seemed to be somewhat expecting Kaczmarek.Yeah, and Best Song was just wrong. I thought Silvestri really deserved that. I would have understood the song from Les Choristes, but not "Al Lado Otro Del Rio". Not enough substance, as far as theme. (But at least it wasn't "Learn To Be Lonely")Greta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coscina 4 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 actually Newman looked more pissed.oh and the Goldsmith memorial was lame-assed too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoby12 0 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Dissapointing Oscars - I am glad Jamie Fox won - he is just amazing, if you havent seen redemption or ray go rent them. Well if it helps they are all millionares! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 So how many times has he lost now? Its gotta be a worlds record.Azkaban is the only score I like out of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewdog1 50 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Sucks. Sucks. Sucks.Plus the memorial sucked major moose balls. Why the heck do you have Yo Yo playing some crappy version of Bach (I think?), but not a medly of Bernstein/Goldsmith. That was so crappy I almost threw the remote at the TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoby12 0 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Chris rock is so borring!! nothing but black/white jokes. In general a very bland ceremony that went on dreadfully long even though the speeches seemed to be quite uncomfortable with Bill Conti standing by to cut you off. I am happy Morgan Freeman one - he is surely overdue. Bring back billy crystal and get some life into this show next year - I hope the ratings sucked big you know whats.PS sean penn is such a pompous #($% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewdog1 50 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 PS sean penn is such a pompous #($%You're just now realizing that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted February 28, 2005 Author Share Posted February 28, 2005 Overall one of the worst Oscar shows in recent memory.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Don't you say that every year, KM?Congratulations Mr. Kaczmarek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 798 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 I really wanted Williams to win, but I was always scared of that funny name among the nominees; they tend to win.Anyway; don't lose hope guys! John Williams could score another 10 years. He'll get another shot; perhaps even next year. Maybe Memoirs of a Geisha will be a major Oscar contender. Who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted February 28, 2005 Author Share Posted February 28, 2005 I always forget last years show.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 I agree, Chris Rock was okay but not memorable. There was really nothing special about the show tonight. Too bad.Ray Barnsbury-who would've at least like some sort of performance for the best score category Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondo 33 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 I actually thought Rock was the best part about the show. That whole bit where he interviewed all the black people, plus one Albert Brooks, summed up the entire show for me (Finding what? Lemony who?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eplicon 53 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 actually Newman looked more pissed.Although probably not as much as he did in 2000 when he lost to The Red Violin. Newman looked rather sour at having to force himself to applaud like that and pretending to be happy for John Corigliano. (I guess Newman's style is still too different to be accepted by the Academy.)I thought Williams' reaction was more of "Hmmm, interesting choice." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mari 279 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Why the heck do you have Yo Yo playing some crappy version of Bach (I think?), but not a medly of Bernstein/Goldsmith. That was so crappy I almost threw the remote at the TV.I felt the same way about the tribute! I know the audience reaction would have been greater if they had been able to associate the composer names with their music. Bill Conti did pay his own tribute though. Before several of the commercial breaks I heard the orchestra play snippets of Star Trek, Laura and The Magnificent Seven.Kathy, happy for Morgan Freeman and disappointed about JW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 I would have posted earlier, but i was too busy crying. j/kI, like all other JW fans, was upset, but i'll manage. You just have to keep remembering that academy awards is not the end all be all. it's his music that counts, and we all enjoy it. we have a few scores this year alone to look forward to, and the beautiful cycle will continue. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG-SI 10 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Well, no bother! Academy lost its credibility a long time ago. Finding Neverland? Well....... that explains A LOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Did Conti play ANY of Williams music during the show? I didn't catch any. All I heard was T2 at least 3 or 4 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAfonso 188 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 During the End Credits there was a snippet from E.T. I think (but was that live?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 154 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 What the? Finding Neverland? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittBash 283 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 ok so another year and another lose. Disappointing but the Academy has a knack for disappointing. Even though JW didn't win I do agree with some members that he probably has a better chance next year with say Memoirs, I think since he's been nominated SO many times his only chance to win with the academy is going to be with something that the Academy sees as a major achievement in film scores (Jaws, Star Wars) or an undeniable piece of art (like Shindlers List). not just the same amazing level of quality output he does every year (which they do acknowledge with the nominations I think, but not enough), I think the problem with Williams not winning has more to do with his consistent high level of output which has raised the bar for him to win higher then it should be he has made the art of great film scoring into the everyday. All I can say is that if JW never wins another one he has won everyone as far as I'm concerned and if they don't give this man the lifetime achievement award at an Oscar ceremony sometime down the road they will have missed the greatest opportunity to acknowledge one of the best if not the best composer in movie history.Brian99_1 - who is now getting off his soap box till next year and YEAH bring back Billy Crystal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Finding Neverland? That was... unexpected. I was so confident Johnny would win. :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Told ya so. Poop. 8OJustin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 John Williams loses because everyone else is jealous of his musical power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,359 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 I expected him not to win. Like some already said, Harry Potter & The Prisoner of Azkaban does not belong in the same league as his previous wins.----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie 45 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 People have to realise most tech category wins are chosen by the "eeny meeny miney moe" method.Which was the case for Score yesterday, when voters went "meh might as well reward Finding Neverland with something".But I can assure you, Williams' wins for Star Wars, Jaws and E.T. were because at least 20% of the Academy fell in love with the music for what it was worth, not what film it was associated with or what nationality the name seemed to hail from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Which was the case for Score yesterday, when voters went "meh might as well reward Finding Neverland with something".Same thing with last year. "Meh, I guess we should throw ROTK a bone."Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 If he wrote a Mahler symphony I dont think the man could even win with that at this point.Damn right LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWFAN4LIFE 0 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 I like many were very disappointed that JW did not win and do agree with the fact that no award can take away from us how special his music really and what it means to us. I can say who actually knows what the academy is looking for, they seem to change there rules every year. To me it is just a glorfied show that in the end of the day really means nothing because usually movies we have never even seen or heard of win. JW did look a little disappointed, I think he did believe he really had a chance to win this year. In our hearts we know who really won.I say bring Chris Rock back again, he was pretty funny and in many ways he almost made you forget about how long the show was because you wanted to see what he was going to do or say next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Elmer Bernstein, not surprisingly, was the only one of the composers who received substantial applause.Bill Conti did manage to sneak in music by Raksin, Goldsmith, and Bernstein during the commercial break segues, but I'm sorry that that's what had to pass for a tribute to these legends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Most of them were probably clapping for Leonard Bernstein. I was shocked by the lukewarm applause for Goldsmith.I am surprised at all the Aviator nominations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris ChrusherComix 46 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 You guys actually watch that crap? Or care who wins or loses? It's a polularity contest between a bunch of whiney-PC-to-the-point-of-hatred filth and self-worshipfest between champagne socialists er, socialites. I abhore that nonsense, a living example of why I ignore, and sometimes even hate the Hollywood industry and 90-95% of the garbage that comes out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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