Alex 2,835 Posted August 6, 2019 Author Share Posted August 6, 2019 Good for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 No, he will not be trained. He's too old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Why did it take them so long to fire him anyway? Surely they've had enough music for ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Union regulations. The reuse fees for TV music are very expensive. Its often cheaper to record a new score. It might even be required. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Good luck to him but his axing was simply a brazen attempt to cut costs, probably due to skyrocketing salaries for the voice actors. They're within their rights to drop him and go with a cheaper option, even if it's a thoroughly shitty way to treat a show veteran (and a sad reflection of the times and the way these music houses are putting composers out of work and driving salaries down). Doesn't change the fact this garbage should've ended well over a decade ago. Depressingly, the show has been terrible for twice as long as it was ever great. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, crumbs said: Doesn't change the fact this garbage should've ended well over a decade ago. Depressingly, the show has been terrible for twice as long as it was ever great. That's a very generous estimation. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 They're at season 28, no? Seasons 3-9 were gold, but yes, barely a quarter of the show's entire run -- which has been thoroughly awful for decades now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 The show has been on since the coronation of Henry VIII! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 32 minutes ago, crumbs said: They're at season 28, no? Seasons 3-9 were gold, but yes, barely a quarter of the show's entire run -- which has been thoroughly awful for decades now. Seasons 1 and 2 were great too. Why do people keep putting those two down? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 I haven't watched an episode of The Simpsons in years and I haven't thought about one in months. They need to put it on an (accessible) streaming platform if they want it to stay relevant. (having one or two of the shitty recent seasons on Hulu doesn't count) I hope Alf sues them for all they're worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, Not Mr. Big said: They need to put it on an (accessible) streaming platform if they want it to stay relevant. I just watch them all on DVD and blu-ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Wouldn't the show go to Disney+ with Disney acquiring Fox? The residuals must be huge when sold globally, surely the only reason they're still making new episodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 In the US, the entire Simpsons run has been streaming for years on the FX streaming app/service. In November, it moves to Disney+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Remember Alf? He's back. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 In pog form. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 4 hours ago, Stefancos said: Union regulations. The reuse fees for TV music are very expensive. Its often cheaper to record a new score. It might even be required. So what's their new strategy if they can't re-use what he already wrote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Get a Zimmer clone! bollemanneke and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 5 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Get a Zimmer clone! Literally, they hired an offshoot of RCP, a small team called Bleeding Fingers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 17 hours ago, bollemanneke said: So what's their new strategy if they can't re-use what he already wrote? They never reused anything. They just hired some new guys to write new stuff. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 On 8/6/2019 at 4:06 PM, crumbs said: Doesn't change the fact this garbage should've ended well over a decade ago. Depressingly, the show has been terrible for twice as long as it was ever great. Bullshit. It has been far above average twice as long as it's been okay. Despite its quality drop it has never reached the same level as Family Guy or American Dad for at least two decades. Peoples use to bash it, just because it pales in comparison to the first ten seasons - well, everything does. Matt C and mstrox 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 I haven't watched this since the movie so I really don't know what the quality drop has been since then. But I can imagine the cast probably want loads of money to continue by this point, whereas pretty much no one will notice if the music is done by someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Anything that endures for as long as The Simpsons is going to wane in quality and interest, unless there's a shake-up every now and then. The only show that could last in perfect glory is Star Trek: The Next Generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Hardly, season 6 was a step down from 5 and season 7 has some pretty poor stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted August 8, 2019 Author Share Posted August 8, 2019 I watched an episode from the most recent season and the music and spotting are awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Deanna looked her best in Season 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 9 hours ago, Stefancos said: Hardly, season 6 was a step down from 5 and season 7 has some pretty poor stuff. Wrong! It's all great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Season 7 felt like a Mirror Universe Season 3, where instead of getting really good they kept on being weird and did whatever, with some notable exceptions. At least it ended on a great note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Season 7 is probably my favorite. That or 8. The Oakley-Weinstein showrunner seasons are the peak of the whole series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 11 hours ago, Arpy said: Wrong! It's all great! @Koray Savas, is that you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 I think some of you are talking about Star Trek TNG, and some of you are talking about The Simpsons. More of you should be talking about The Simpsons! Stu - season 7 is an all-timer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 6 hours ago, Stefancos said: @Koray Savas, is that you? I don’t watch The Simpsons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 He's talking about ST:TNG! Oh, you guys, this thread is going off the rails! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Oh shit! Oh fuck! Oh wizzle worms! What are we gonna do, Trox? What are we gonna do!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 On 8/8/2019 at 8:17 PM, Brundlefly said: Bullshit. It has been far above average twice as long as it's been okay. Despite its quality drop it has never reached the same level as Family Guy or American Dad for at least two decades. Peoples use to bash it, just because it pales in comparison to the first ten seasons - well, everything does. American Dad is far, far better than both Family Guy and The Simpsons (season ~12 onwards). The show has actual jokes, writers who care, and Roger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 And Steve and Francine! And Hayley and Jeff! Stan's the least interesting character Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 I saw a couple of recent episodes of Family Guy on a plane last year and enjoyed them. I've talked to people who don't like the randomness of a lot of the 'like that time I....' bits, but I find them really funny. I think the fact that it's a more adult comedy than The Simpsons works in its favour as they can do more. bollemanneke and Arpy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Early Simpsons and The Critic is the only ones worth watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted August 10, 2019 Author Share Posted August 10, 2019 11 hours ago, Richard Penna said: I saw a couple of recent episodes of Family Guy on a plane last year and enjoyed them. I've talked to people who don't like the randomness of a lot of the 'like that time I....' bits, but I find them really funny. I think the fact that it's a more adult comedy than The Simpsons works in its favour as they can do more. The only time I watch Family Guy is on planes haha, there’s always about 3 episodes on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 On 8/9/2019 at 12:48 AM, Disco Stu said: Season 7 is probably my favorite. That or 8. The Oakley-Weinstein showrunner seasons are the peak of the whole series I dunno: Hurricane Ned... Poochie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 11 hours ago, SteveMc said: Early Simpsons and The Critic is the only ones worth watching. MacGyver is gay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 454 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 On 8/6/2019 at 11:28 AM, crumbs said: Wouldn't the show go to Disney+ with Disney acquiring Fox? The residuals must be huge when sold globally, surely the only reason they're still making new episodes. The Fox network renewed the show for two more seasons right before Disney finalized the purchase of the Fox TV and movie assets -- Disney is legally obligated to keep "The Simpsons" on the Fox network (which now pays a licensing fee) before they can move it to ABC or Disney+. Besides, they make more money off merchandising sales than anything else. That's why it's still going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,456 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Here's the recording of a cue from the episode with the Kevin Feige cameo that will parody the Avengers. Whoever is scoring the show right now did manage to capture Silvestri's signature sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 8 hours ago, Edmilson said: Here's the recording of a cue from the episode with the Kevin Feige cameo that will parody the Avengers. This sentence alone sums up everything wrong with modern Simpsons. A show two decades past its use-by date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeH 768 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/fox-says-discovery-simpsons-composer-culminated-firing-1292397 TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TSMefford 1,509 Posted May 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, MikeH said: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/fox-says-discovery-simpsons-composer-culminated-firing-1292397 Lol. If it's a crime to have others do the work while you slap your name on it then I can think of another composer that might be in trouble... MikeH, crumbs and Edmilson 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeH 768 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 19 minutes ago, TSMefford said: Lol. If it's a crime to have others do the work while you slap your name on it then I can think of another composer that might be in trouble... Lol yes. It’s a pretty hilarious argument considering what goes on with nearly every composer in Hollywood. TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 If this goes through, at least we'll have a precedence for firing HanZ. TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Arpy 4,145 Posted May 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2020 Clauson has a point, they fired him and replaced him with robots aping his style, but they have a grievance with him delegating some of the work to other people? gkgyver, Edmilson and TSMefford 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,316 Posted May 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2020 It's obvious Zimmer's clone factory just undercut Clausen and they looked for an excuse to get rid of him and save costs (all while the voice actor fees continue to blow out year on year; eventually something's gotta give). Not that I'm defending the decision, just the reality of how the business operates. This rubbish narrative they've invented to justify getting rid of him is embarrassing. Richard Penna, MikeH, TSMefford and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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