#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Its the new Satellite Celebration! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Unfortunately I think the Boston performance that was broadcast was not the best performance of this piece. Much better sound quality than the cell phone recording from Glasgow, of course, but a flawed performance. So we still await a quality track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 I didn't say anything before, but I do like the nuance in the Glasgow performance. I think they are both good, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 I think the Glasgow performance got lot of shit because of the quality of the recording. I think it was just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Did it get shit? I thought it was great for what it was! People just still want a professional recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 I want it recorded on minidisc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 it's a lot better than the Glasgow recording First of all the Glasgow recording is one minute longer, so it's played at a much slower tempo. All the middle part of the piece doesn't sound coherent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 I'll just stick with the Gerhardt version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 You gotta have both pieces. Why pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 11 hours ago, King Mark said: it's a lot better than the Glasgow recording First of all the Glasgow recording is one minute longer, so it's played at a much slower tempo. All the middle part of the piece doesn't sound coherent Well, I generally like slower tempi. The middle part does wander, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Is the minute difference due solely to tempi? I haven’t noticed any changes to the actual arrangement; have any of you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,350 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 From a comment on my YT video of the arrangement: Quote The new theme sounds like it is taking us back in time, like the introduction of a sad fairytale. We begin with a mournful sequence of Han and Leia lamenting the loss of the perfect yet impossible pairing, a quiet yet regal statement of the motif. Softly and slowly it leads us to remember the painful beauty of their times together. The result is a heartrending sequence that touches our hearts and souls right to the very core. We then progress to a somewhat chaotic and tumultuous sequence where the motif is never really completed, left to trail off into another variation of the motif, and another, and another. This effectively frames the complex and yet hauntingly perfect romance between the star-crossed couple. The music then sinks into a dark, mysterious sequence, the point when darkness began to infiltrate the purity of their love. We sense the tribulations that have torn through their sacred bond as the theme wavers and morphs several times but is always there, symbolising the unbreakable romance between the princess and the scoundrel. John Williams allows the music to rise to the grand, sweeping complete theme that enraptured us since Empire Strikes Back, even as he switches out a note or two that conveys the melancholic nostalgia when Han and Leia truly were happy together. For even though the Force was cruel to Skywalker's daughter and the man who loved her, there were moments when even the entire galaxy could not keep them apart. The final statement of the motif is quiet yet powerful, even as its simplistic tone reminds us of the young Princess Leia, the innocent yet brilliant girl who never quite found her place in the galaxy. That a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, there was a romance full of purity and light, strong yet fragile, ephemeral yet eternal. One whose roots were cruelly snatched away from her, and the other who threw away his roots to find a better life. Against all odds, they found each other. May the Force be with both of them, always. Cerebral Cortex and _deleted_ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted December 16, 2019 Author Share Posted December 16, 2019 Studio recording, by Robert Ziegler & the Slovak National Symphony Orchestra: Available on this album Physical CD: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZW8WPP9/ Digital: https://music.apple.com/us/album/music-from-the-star-wars-saga-the-essential-collection/1487508632 https://play.google.com/store/music/album/Robert_Ziegler_Music_From_The_Star_Wars_Saga_The_E?id=Bvktar6wdeqzy33xsmpxfjhsoo4 https://www.amazon.com/Music-Star-Wars-Saga-Collection/dp/B081B9PYPB/ Arpy and Amer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Not worth anyone's money in my humble opinion... Stick to the LSO version. santiagoec 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted December 16, 2019 Author Share Posted December 16, 2019 This one? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Here’s a link for digital download of a lossless version. https://www.qobuz.com/be-nl/album/music-from-the-star-wars-saga-the-essential-collection-robert-ziegler/y69s47fz2tcjc Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 ... and here it is in Presto Classical, also in lossless. https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8708972--music-from-the-star-wars-saga-the-essential-collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 15 hours ago, bollemanneke said: Not worth anyone's money in my humble opinion... Stick to the LSO version. I'm not watching or listening to a phone recording! How's that better than a proper recording? rough cut 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, rough cut said: ... and here it is in Presto Classical, also in lossless. https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8708972--music-from-the-star-wars-saga-the-essential-collection A great site. 7 minutes ago, Arpy said: I'm not watching or listening to a phone recording! How's that better than a proper recording? Only E.T. Phone Home is listenable in a phone recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 25 minutes ago, Arpy said: I'm not watching or listening to a phone recording! How's that better than a proper recording? The c.d. version is better. LSO version is agonizingly slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Just speed it up in Audacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Just now, King Mark said: The c.d. version is better. LSO version is agonizingly slow. I like the LSO performance, but I don't like any of the phone recordings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 17 hours ago, Jay said: This one? Yes. Well, the Classic FM broadcast of that moment. Volume issues, but at least performed with feeling, not in a rush because they had to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,110 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 On 12/17/2019 at 12:03 AM, Jay said: Studio recording, by Robert Ziegler & the Slovak National Symphony Orchestra: Available on this album Physical CD: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZW8WPP9/ Digital: https://music.apple.com/us/album/music-from-the-star-wars-saga-the-essential-collection/1487508632 https://play.google.com/store/music/album/Robert_Ziegler_Music_From_The_Star_Wars_Saga_The_E?id=Bvktar6wdeqzy33xsmpxfjhsoo4 https://www.amazon.com/Music-Star-Wars-Saga-Collection/dp/B081B9PYPB/ From the samples the performances seem pretty good. Anyone got this set yet? Its on the Sony label so it does appears to be a good compilation. I'd go for it because of the Han and Leia (Revised) recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Uh, no, it is not. The performances are mediocre at best and the album ends with two totally unnecessary film cue transcriptions arranged by someone who clearly doesn't recognise notes. Tydirium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 But the HSATP arrangement is good. Beggars can’t be choosers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 It's passable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted December 27, 2019 Author Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Amer said: From the samples the performances seem pretty good. Anyone got this set yet? Its on the Sony label so it does appears to be a good compilation. Yes, many of us have listened to the album: There's an entire thread for the album here with a bunch of comments: https://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/30955-music-from-the-star-wars-saga-by-robert-ziegler-the-slovak-national-symphony-orchestra/ Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 I think it's a very good performance of Han Solo and the Princess, better than the concert performances we heard so far That track is worth the price of the c.d. Dr. Know 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,110 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 I missed reading about it. Good to know there was a thread already. Going to order it. Seems pretty decent for an orchestra and conductor Iam unfamilair with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yannick 40 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 I just came across this and wow, what a wonderful piece. Would have been beautiful to have this in IX. Maybe prior to Leia's death or when Han was talking to Ben. So, it was a homenage to Carrie Fisher that JW wrote back in 2017? Wonder why it wasn't used in any film. So many backstories we don't know during the sequels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 As far as we know, he wrote it purely to play at concerts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 JW forgot he had just written it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 In my dreams, there is a version of the credits to TLJ that uses it instead of all the tracked in music. Not sure how that would all transition, but I’m sure Williams could make it work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 yeah me too, then they tacked in that piano insert instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 8 hours ago, Taikomochi said: In my dreams, there is a version of the credits to TLJ that uses it instead of all the tracked in music. Not sure how that would all transition, but I’m sure Williams could make it work. It would've worked better in TRoS' credits, personally. Since the film featured both Ford and Fisher and was a symbolic end to their story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 TLJ Credits were wasted anyways as an edit job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 On 12/28/2019 at 12:14 AM, bollemanneke said: Uh, no, it is not. The performances are mediocre at best and the album ends with two totally unnecessary film cue transcriptions arranged by someone who clearly doesn't recognise notes. I just listened to all of Ach-to Island and the end of Battle of Crait, they sound note-for-note with the originals (aside from the inferior performance and obvious mix differences). I don’t hear any transcription errors. I still have nightmares about the Silva Screen/Prague transcriptions of Indiana Jones tracks, if you want a really bad transcription listen to The Basket Game from that album. Yikes. (here it is for reference:) https://open.spotify.com/track/6cN6YK9KgI0qdFDrNto66f?si=RCqVFokTRKK1XPxBJ9hKYg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 On 12/27/2019 at 2:14 PM, bollemanneke said: Uh, no, it is not. The performances are mediocre at best and the album ends with two totally unnecessary film cue transcriptions arranged by someone who clearly doesn't recognise notes. Are you saying it was transcribed by a... blind person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Yeah, it's me in disguise, actually. I'm trying to kick-start a career as a transcriber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 I bet you have good ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Yes, they're so good I already have a hearing aid at my age! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Your sense of smell must be good then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stravinsky 206 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Has this new arrangement just been released as a single on Spotify from the new Deutsche Grammophon Album? Or has it been released before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted April 30, 2022 Author Share Posted April 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, stravinsky said: Has this new arrangement just been released as a single on Spotify from the new Deutsche Grammophon Album? No, that's a 2021 revision of this version, specifically tailered for ASM 4 minutes ago, stravinsky said: Or has it been released before? The ASM version? No, it's brand new. The 2018 arrangement in general? Yea, there's two embedded videos of it right on this page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stravinsky 206 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Aah! Thankyou! Who are playing in this recording? Nic Raine et al? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Also this one thx99 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igger6 894 Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 It seemed to me that the ASM version of this arrangement has less Eiger Sanction-adjacent noodling in the opening minute than the orchestral version. At several points he basically expands it from a six-note motif to an eight-note. But maybe it's just less prominent to my ear in the violin version? Either way, it's a fascinating phenomenon that I'm not sure has an analogue anywhere in Williams' oeuvre—a concert suite that not only changes the core notes of a theme's identity in the course of six minutes, but does so with a theme from decades earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 The video in the old OP of this says it's now set to private. Is there another link for it at all? I've completely forgotten ever listening to this, but apparently I loved it back when I heard it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stravinsky 206 Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 A very fine performance of this gorgeous new version by the Slovak Orchestra I think. Beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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