Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Jurassic Shark doesn't watch cool cartoons like I do, dude. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 In the FSM thread, someone reported that Airplane Ride is not just tracked from Rebirth, but a re-recording of almost the same music, but with an added phrase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,692 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Well, that would explain why it's on the set. Although the ending has a slightly fake reverby sound to it. Which would leave the end credits as the only 'weird' aspect of this release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 I wonder if they are wrong, and the "added phrase" is just a loop created by the music editors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,692 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 If that were part of the originally unscored bits and they decided they could easily track it from Rebirth, it doesn't make a lot of sense to re-record it does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Sure doesn't, not in my opinion. But stranger things have happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted August 3, 2018 Author Share Posted August 3, 2018 Shouldn't it be quite easy to hear whether it's the exact same performance or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Yeah, just try and replicate it in Audacity then place them on top of each other. I'd have done that already, but they'll only get here early next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 I dunno it sounds exactly the same to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 What's more, if no one can find any discernible difference, what does it matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 We are in serious trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jim Ware 526 Posted August 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 3, 2018 Just fired up Pro Tools to have a play around with this - Airplane Ride is the same take as Rebirth, albeit with a bit of editing and looping. Referencing the score, it's comprised of R13P1A (Rebirth Pt. 2) bars 109-120,115-128,131 and 133-134. Disco Stu, Taikomochi and crocodile 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 so that's what the FSMer was talking about - bars 115-120 play twice, which he thought was an "extra phrase" Definitely tracked and looped then, and shouldn't be on the CD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: We are in serious trouble. We are in very. Serious. Trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,692 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Jay said: Definitely tracked and looped then, and shouldn't be on the CD! Well, it doesn't fit in with the design of the CD (Goldsmith's intended score) but I don't think you should go as far as to say that it shouldn't be on there at all. It's there for those who want what was in the film. But then I don't see these releases as listening experiences to be followed religiously. They're a repository to move things around as needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 It's definitely odd they included it but like suggested they probably included it for those who expected it to be on there. I knew it was tracked from the first time I heard it via isolated score quite a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 I was prepared for trouble...but not for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted August 5, 2018 Author Share Posted August 5, 2018 16 hours ago, Trent B said: It's definitely odd they included it but like suggested they probably included it for those who expected it to be on there. MM doesn't create his sets like the fans want it, but how it should be done from his professional point of view. None of the producers should act upon the fans' requests! Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 As far as I’m concerned, no harm in doing it. There would be those who have complained had they not. Kinda like the end credits, it’s a non issue for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted August 5, 2018 Author Share Posted August 5, 2018 On 7/31/2018 at 7:12 PM, Brundlefly said: Is the cat's piano part included at all? No, honestly, are the few piano notes included in Finish the Job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Nope the cat's piano is not included. That was just an overlay so hence why it wasn't included. 15 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: No, honestly, are the few piano notes included in Finish the Job? There was never piano notes in Finish The Job. The piano notes were in "Serious Trouble". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted August 5, 2018 Author Share Posted August 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Trent B said: Nope the cat's piano is not included. That was just an overlay so hence why it wasn't included. Too bad. That inappropriate cluster is really bone chilling in that moment. 2 hours ago, Trent B said: There was never piano notes in Finish The Job. The piano notes were in "Serious Trouble". But the track Finish the Job on the new Intrada release includes the cue Serious Trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 I never thought I'd read a cat playing piano being described as "bone chilling". rpvee and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Juicy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 That happens a lot around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twilz3 0 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Love the release, but I find that the Album version sounds more dynamic, percussion and some other instruments sound better and more clear, that's especially in action cues like TAUREG ATTACK, what do you think guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,692 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 I prefer the more open mix for most cues, but yes, in that track, there's one section where I prefer the album mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Oh, that censored Anck-Su-Namun on page 5 is gloriously terrible! No nipple-less golden boobies in our booklet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 So they Austin Powers'd her out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Worse, they darkened the fish-scale bodypaint in to make it look like she has something on! A hair lengthening would've been better. "We have also included both the film version of "The Locusts" (with a busier ending) and the alternate version with a stream-lined ending and a longer middle section. Goldsmith, indeed, recorded three different versions of this cue, with the third being the one included on the Decca album." Now, no version of The Locusts is on the Decca album. My Favourite Plague is the only track present 3 times on the set, but it's explained in the next paragraph. First impression of the complete score presentation not on headphones: Pretty damn good. I'll definitely join the little below-minute tracks together for the digital version, but this'll get many listens. Shame you have to change discs for those 12 minutes though, but I guess the only other way would've been to not include the OST and split in a more reasonable place like between Crowd Control and Airplane Ride (or even better, Sand Storm with AR not included - that would be an amazing Disc 2 opener). Oof, yeah, the end of Camel Race sound like the headphone jack is getting iffy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 19 hours ago, kaseykockroach said: I never thought I'd read a cat playing piano being described as "bone chilling". You obviously haven't seen my avatar. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted August 6, 2018 Author Share Posted August 6, 2018 They should have included Serious Trouble with the overlay instead of the tracked music! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 They should have just used Freud music! Unlucky Bastard and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted August 6, 2018 Author Share Posted August 6, 2018 9 hours ago, Holko said: Worse, they darkened the fish-scale bodypaint in to make it look like she has something on! A hair lengthening would've been better. Why? It's just a CD set, not a movie that has to get through the MPAA. Sorry, but this is too American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Why even use the pic if you'll have to censor it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted August 6, 2018 Author Share Posted August 6, 2018 1 minute ago, kaseykockroach said: They should have just used Freud music! In every Goldsmith-scored movie! Just now, kaseykockroach said: Why even use the pic if you'll have to censor it? A good question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 I have other soundtrack CDs with nudity within the pages. Odd that Intrada would go out of their way to censor something from a PG13 movie. Brundlefly and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Wasn't it a silky outfit? With the makeup being on the arms, face...the rest of the body... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted August 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 6, 2018 Hardly matters anyway, since this will forever remain the most beautiful most captivating most enchanting page in soundtrack booklet history. crumbs, Ollie, Unlucky Bastard and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Oh but of course it's completely fine on the Mummy Returns front cover... Because it's smaller? Also I just noticed that poster uses Weisz' look with the thin drawn eyebrows and very curly hair from the first movie. I guess they thought the difference is too much and people would be confused... Like I was. I actually thought they got a stunningly good imitator for the second one, and only in the credits did I realise it was also Rachel Weisz. Then after a bit of Googling I now know that's what she actually looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 16 hours ago, Holko said: Then after a bit of Googling I now know that's what she actually looks like. You mean classically gorgeous? I concur. A great actress too. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 She's fuckin hot Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpvee 805 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 23 hours ago, Jay said: I have other soundtrack CDs with nudity within the pages. Odd that Intrada would go out of their way to censor something from a PG13 movie. I don’t think Intrada did. That’s the way the outfit was censored in the movie’s trailer. It’s likely a promotional shot (Universal would’ve provided Intrada with the images they were allowed to use). 21 hours ago, Holko said: Oh but of course it's completely fine on the Mummy Returns front cover... Because it's smaller? Also I just noticed that poster uses Weisz' look with the thin drawn eyebrows and very curly hair from the first movie. I guess they thought the difference is too much and people would be confused... Like I was. I actually thought they got a stunningly good imitator for the second one, and only in the credits did I realise it was also Rachel Weisz. Then after a bit of Googling I now know that's what she actually looks like. This confused me when I was a kid, too! They really made her look so different in Returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Just now, rpvee said: I don’t think Intrada did. That’s the way the outfit was censored in the movie’s trailer. It’s likely a promotional shot (Universal would’ve provided Intrada with the images they were allowed to use). Ah ok rpvee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, rpvee said: This confused me when I was a kid, too! They really made her look so different in Returns. I hope you guys were really young when this happened. Like toddlers. rpvee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpvee 805 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Just now, Disco Stu said: I hope you guys were really young when this happened. Like toddlers. Around 9-10. I understood that it was still Rachel pretty quickly, but I remember being confused at first, especially since the movie’s poster/cover art used her appearance from the first film (like @Holko said). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 I only watched it a week or two ago, but I haven't seen Rachel in anything yet except for The Mummy, only knew her name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 On 8/6/2018 at 10:43 AM, Holko said: "We have also included both the film version of "The Locusts" (with a busier ending) and the alternate version with a stream-lined ending and a longer middle section. Goldsmith, indeed, recorded three different versions of this cue, with the third being the one included on the Decca album." Now, no version of The Locusts is on the Decca album. My Favourite Plague is the only track present 3 times on the set, but it's explained in the next paragraph. Yeah this was a bit baffling statement in the liner notes. Perhaps they indeed meant My Favourite Plague instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 15 hours ago, rpvee said: This confused me when I was a kid, too! They really made her look so different in Returns. Denser hair, thicker eyeliner, more cleavage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Changes I did for the phone playlist: - Used a section of The Sarcophagus from the album version instead of the new mix, since I disliked those synths at the end being a noticeably different tempo than the orchestra and choir - Joined Imhotep+The Sarcophagus into Imhotep - Used a section from Tuareg Attack from the album instead of the new - in the second half, when we hear Rick's motif budding, the new mix makes the brass overpower the rythm unlike in the old mix - Joined Tauregs Attack+Closed Door+Undiscovered Creature into The Battle of Hamunaptra / Giza - Joined Off Balance+A Key in the Hand+The Hanging into Evy, Jonathan and Rick - subject to change, since Off Balance is the one cue I explicitly dislike in this score - Used the end section of Camel Race from the album instead of the new to get rid of the static - Joined Finish The Job+Regeneration+Alley Attack+The Flies into Finish The Job (why are these ones hanging in the air when they could stick the 5-second The Warden's Bag in front of Mumia Attack?) - Joined Airplane Ride+Sand Storm+Desert Burial into The Sand Wall - Recreated the separate intended Credits Track (2/20 has it joined into The Sand Volcano and the tempo change and finale repetition is jarring) then stuck the remaining film credits to the end Tried pillaging the 5.1 channels for the kitty piano overlay, but there's way too many sound effects to extract anything worthwile, maybe two of the notes out of the 5-6 could come out cleanly. What a phenomenally fun score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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