Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Cuz Jennifer Lawrence makes for a yummy mummy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Oh. Meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 She can be a bit sour puss faced but she's alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 23, 2018 Author Share Posted July 23, 2018 There's a part in Escape from the Tomb that sound exactly like the beginning of Moving Day from The Secret of NIMH. You know what I mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Jerry Goldsmith: My agent said no one would notice!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 5 hours ago, Brundlefly said: There's a part in Escape from the Tomb that sound exactly like the beginning of Moving Day from The Secret of NIMH. You know what I mean? Plus this! Not really self-plagiarism, but it is very similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 So apparently there’s an issue with the Camel Race cue from the complete score. The last 2:31 of the cue has a static like sound. The album version sounds fine. Someone at FSM noticed it. I checked that cue and you can hear it. I believe the angry mob at FSM has alerted Intrada so I’ll sit back and wait for the response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 How did Botnick not notice these things? So bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 I think I'll sit these out and wait for their issues to be resolved, if they ever get around to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 I wonder if that cue was from an earlier mix of the cue, and they put the wrong version of the mix on the CD master that was sent to the pressing plant? There have been similar mistakes like this in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 From various accounts at FSM, not everyone can hear it (I can) so it could be a pressing issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 23, 2018 Author Share Posted July 23, 2018 I didn't get the set directly from Intrada, how can I get a fixed CD from them? (Just in case I have a copy with that error and Intrada decides to fix it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 As i said in the Last-Listened Thread, there are fishy sound issues here, check the last 02:20 of 'Mummy Attacks' and compare that to the old Decca cue and then tell me that is how it is supposed to sound. The Silvestri is even worse. I wonder how people notice notice a minor occurrence like the above but not that the whole stereo sounds off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 27 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: I didn't get the set directly from Intrada, how can I get a fixed CD from them? (Just in case I have a copy with that error and Intrada decides to fix it.) If they have a replacement CD program down the line, then I think we'll get some kind of notification from them. They are usually very good at that kind of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 23, 2018 Author Share Posted July 23, 2018 2 hours ago, publicist said: As i said in the Last-Listened Thread, there are fishy sound issues here, check the last 02:20 of 'Mummy Attacks' and compare that to the old Decca cue and then tell me that is how it is supposed to sound. The Silvestri is even worse. I wonder how people notice notice a minor occurrence like the above but not that the whole stereo sounds off. Oh man, sounds like a replacement is inevitable. The guys at FSM won't stop complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imhotep 0 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Does anybody else find the synths at 1:26 on The Sarcophagus to be somewhat overbearing and almost too prominent? They're not present on the Decca release nor in the film, and they overpower the vocals underneath to a very distracting level. Is this another mistake perhaps because it just doesn't sound right to me whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 4 hours ago, El Jefe said: So apparently there’s an issue with the Camel Race cue from the complete score. The last 2:31 of the cue has a static like sound. The album version sounds fine. Someone at FSM noticed it. I checked that cue and you can hear it. I believe the angry mob at FSM has alerted Intrada so I’ll sit back and wait for the response. I can also hear it, tho more quietly, around 30 seconds into The Prep Room. It goes for a while. Listen to the pause around 1 minute in. It is really bad in Camel Race Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 4 hours ago, publicist said: As i said in the Last-Listened Thread, there are fishy sound issues here, check the last 02:20 of 'Mummy Attacks' and compare that to the old Decca cue and then tell me that is how it is supposed to sound. The Silvestri is even worse. I wonder how people notice notice a minor occurrence like the above but not that the whole stereo sounds off. I noticed immediately on hearing the main program that the stereo field has been shifted in many cues so that different instruments are in focus. The track I notice this in the most is 0:18 in Tuareg Attack. in the iso score and the OST the racing strings on the left are very clear. In the Intrada version, the brass has been moved such that they're more difficult to hear. I actually ended up editing that section in from the cue on disc 2. It's not necessarily the 'wrong' mix; it just doesn't match the film or OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 But that is a decision i can live with, but when the stereo field fluctuates it's a different issue. Though speakers veil that to a certain degree. Whatever went wrong with TMR, it's much more noticeable there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Well these reported sound issues are not good news at all. Disheartening to say the least. We demand new corrected versions of both The Mummy and The Mummy Returns! Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 24, 2018 Author Share Posted July 24, 2018 It really surprises me that a product like this is coming from Intrada. I mean, somebody must have tested the finished product, am I right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 22 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: It really surprises me that a product like this is coming from Intrada. I mean, somebody must have tested the finished product, am I right? Like I said in the other thread, I bet the people who mastered this aren't even real film music fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 But Bruce Botnick knows more about this shit than any film music fan. Though in fairness, the issues are negligible in case of 'The Mummy'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 1 minute ago, publicist said: But Bruce Botnick knows more about this shit than any film music fan. Though in fairness, the issues are negligible in case of 'The Mummy'. But isn't the mastering phase out of his hands? I thought that part was more of label thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Issues like fluctuating stereo fields must have happened at an earlier stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Maybe it is supposed to be the new sound system Dolby Wobbly. 😆 Karol Unlucky Bastard and Jay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Goldsmith loved sound innovations! PS: i love the new synth effects in 'Sarcophargus' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 The only actual problem I think this set has is that static that some are hearing, and honestly I wasn't aware until pointed out (I didn't listen to all cues at first). Even after that, I can live with it. The overall sound of the release is just a different mix, and once you get used to the shifted focus of instruments, it sounds awesome. I don't quite agree with some of those mixing choices but nothing's perfect (and we have the iso score if needed). My original (over)reaction was that I'd end up keeping a lot of iso score rips, but I found only two instances where the new mix bothered me and both are on the OST. Easy fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 24, 2018 Author Share Posted July 24, 2018 12 hours ago, publicist said: PS: i love the new synth effects in 'Sarcophargus' New synths? How did you get this set so fast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Another flawed Intrada release? Well. At least we get the toaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 16 hours ago, Richard Penna said: The only actual problem I think this set has is that static that some are hearing, and honestly I wasn't aware until pointed out (I didn't listen to all cues at first). Even after that, I can live with it. The overall sound of the release is just a different mix, and once you get used to the shifted focus of instruments, it sounds awesome. I don't quite agree with some of those mixing choices but nothing's perfect (and we have the iso score if needed). My original (over)reaction was that I'd end up keeping a lot of iso score rips, but I found only two instances where the new mix bothered me and both are on the OST. Easy fix. I really think the static thing really depends on one's hearing. I honestly don't hear it. I agree about the mixing I for one really love the mixing on this release. It took me a day or so to get use to it but I definitely like it more than the isolated score / OST. BTW I swore someone either here or FSM mentioned about a video that showed Goldsmith conducting "Sand Storm" with out the chorus? Does someone have a link to said video? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Vincent 234 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 This is what Roger Feigelson says about it. Quote We did a deep investigation and this is what we found. There is actually some distortion after about a minute in, where the cue goes into a new section. It hits pretty loud and seems over-modulated. That continues for the remainder of the track when it is loud. Quieter sections are perfect, showing it isn’t random static at all. This is ALSO present on the 1999 CD as well but our new mix is hotter and more detailed, making the distortion more evident. This means the original recording sessions must have been too hot during that portion of the cue. Our release exacerbates the distortion but it is not anything that can be corrected because it's inherent in the recording itself. Keep in mind there were no stereo mixes of the additional music, only what was mixed for Decca in 1999. Universal only had the complete 48-track sessions and potted/edited 5.1 film mixes which would have been unacceptable. Therefore expanding The Mummy required all-new mixing and Bruce Botnick’s participation because he was the original mixer. Since we want to retain our new 48-channel mix the distortion will stay in this hot section. This makes keeping the old album mix a nice bonus for CD 2. Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 8 hours ago, Brundlefly said: New synths? How did you get this set so fast? I'm VIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 6 hours ago, publicist said: I'm VIP. Very internet download prone? 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Vastly Immoral Pirate? Vividly Imaginative Prick? Varyingly Interested Pessimist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Well I am today a happy recipient of a package containing this score and its sequel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Might be a while until I can listen to these anyway since I now have noise-induced hyperacusis in my right ear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 11 hours ago, publicist said: I'm VIP. Honestly, where did you order the sets? And what new synths? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Just like everyone at Intrada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 The “noise” on Camel Race only stood out to me when I had it playing in my car, on my iPod. It was hard to hear with headphones, on my iPod, until the final 20 seconds or so. On normal speakers, playing the actual CD, it didn’t stand out too much until the final 40 seconds or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imhotep 0 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 5 hours ago, Brundlefly said: Honestly, where did you order the sets? And what new synths? There are new sounding synths on the Sarcophagus (Track Two, Disc One) that were not previously there on either the Decca release nor the ISO Score. Personally I find them to be quite overbearing and distracting, but each to their own I guess 💁 What's everyone's opinion of the new added section on "Escape the Tomb"? It sounds very Classic Hollywood to me, but I can understand why it was cut as the scene works much better without! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 So, there is a decent amount of OST tracks that are unique and not just simple copies if the C&C tracks: 4. Giza Port (original version) 7. Camel Race (without static overlay;) 8. The Crypt (without synth overlay) 9. Mumia Attack (unextended version) 11. My Favourite Plague (unextended original version) 13. Rebirth (unextended version) 14. The Mummy (original version) 15. The Sand Volcano (originally intended version) Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 20 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: So, there is a decent amount of OST tracks that are unique and not just simple copies if the C&C tracks: 4. Giza Port (original version) 7. Camel Race (without static overlay;) 8. The Crypt (without synth overlay) 9. Mumia Attack (unextended version) 11. My Favourite Plague (unextended original version) 13. Rebirth (unextended version) 15. The Sand Volcano (originally intended version) Mumia Attack on the complete presentation it has the cue "The Warden's Bag" tacked onto the beginning. Other wise it's the same on both. The Mummy (The Mummy Attack) on Disc 2 is different instrumentation wise if you compare the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 Do any other tracks have differences? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 I don't get why they gave us a nice chart of takes used for the main presentation, but didn't include a similar chart for the album presentation. Trent B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Brundlefly said: Do any other tracks have differences? I think most of the tracks on the OST do differ from the complete presentation as far as orchestrations go. One instance as I pointed out "The Mummy (The Mummy Attack)" at one section has synths where on the complete presentation it's not there just like in the film. I can't remember if Goldsmith had to re-record some cues for the OST or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Does anyone else find the mastering on this release a bit unpleasant? Listening in my car (admittedly not the best sound environment) I'm constantly volume adjusting between tracks, and the action tracks are particularly "loud" where, even with the volume turned all the way down, the brass and percussion is unnaturally loud to the point of being noisy - - like every instrument in the orchestra is blasting in my face. There's no separation in the orchestra and no sense of "space" in the recording studio. Does this make any sense or is that just how the score was recorded and mixed originally, so it's an accurate reflection of the composer's intentions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Just stop listening in the car. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Well there's a solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 "Does anyone else find life unpleasant? Trying to live in Texas (admittedly not the best environment), and the A/C is overworked." "Then kill yourself!" "Well there's a solution" Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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