Jay 39,441 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Any chance you can record a rehearsal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,358 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 We still need a proper orchestral recording of this. All we have is band versions and various crummysounding stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Are there any proper orchestra's in Finland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,801 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Are there any proper orchestra's in Finland?YES THERE ARE, PASI'S INCLUDED!!! I made my orchestra to purchase the Fanfare for Fenway. Will be peformed in the brass concert next spring.When is this concert?!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Are there any proper orchestra's in Finland?YES THERE ARE, PASI'S INCLUDED!!! Do they play anything else then just Sibilius...Sibilius and then Sibilius again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,801 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Yes of course, both the classic repertoire, new commissions and even an occasional film music concert. This year marks the 150th year since Sibelius's birth so naturally there are many concerts dedicated to his music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,212 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Are there any proper orchestra's in Finland?YES THERE ARE, PASI'S INCLUDED!!! I made my orchestra to purchase the Fanfare for Fenway. Will be peformed in the brass concert next spring.When is this concert?!!!I think it is not scheduled yet, the concert will be during our opera period, February 2016.The good thing is, that our chief conductor mr. Rouvali promised to do it so it will at our main hall(1800 pers) and probably full house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,358 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Are there any proper orchestra's in Finland?The Espoo orchestra that played film music two years ago was surely quite capable. That's about the only Finnish orchestra I've seen live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,212 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Well, they are quite good but it's rather small ensemble. Sinfonietta like.And I'll be happy if someone knows some other Williams fanfare which would be available to buy. We are 6 horns, four trumpets, four trombones and tuba + percussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,361 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 We still need a proper orchestral recording of this. All we have is band versions and various crummysounding stuff.This piece is not scored for orchestra, but rather for brass and percusssion. It's a band piece! So how can one ask for a "proper orchestral recording"?Also we have the premiere, that still as a decent sound (though I know people around here hate live recordings), and a astounding performance recorded, in studio, by the US Coast Guard Band, readily available for download on their site. Ricard and TownerFan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,358 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I know it's written for band, but it's still a type of piece I would love to hear in an orchestral arrangement. Like the "For the President's Own" piece. If nothing else, because it's a type of fanfare that I think would fit such a setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 5,184 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I know it's written for band, but it's still a type of piece I would love to hear in an orchestral arrangement. Like the "For the President's Own" piece."For the President's Own" is written for winds band too. Indeed the title of the piece itself refers to the US Marine Wind Band! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,441 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Thor, for someone who respects a composer's wishes so much you think their OST arrangement is the only thing that should ever be released for one of their film scores, its pretty hypocritical to want them to also re-write their compositions to be more to your liking! bespinGPT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,358 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Thor, for someone who respects a composer's wishes so much you think their OST arrangement is the only thing that should ever be released for one of their film scores, its pretty hypocritical to want them to also re-write their compositions to be more to your liking!Geez....way to over-dramatize a simple sentiment. I don't see what one has to do with the other.If one can reduce an orchestral cue to a band arrangement (which is done all the time), what's so wrong with building a band cue to an orchestral arrangement? I would be curious, that's all. I have no issues with the original band arrangements of "Fenway" or "President's Own". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,441 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Are you serious with response?You really don't see your own hypocrisy here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,456 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Well in Thor's defense, expanding an original soundtrack album into a complete and chronological album doesn't *usually* require the creation of new material. It's simply a re-edit and disclosure of existing already recorded material. But requesting the adaptation of a band piece for orchestra is to ask for a new piece of music to be written and recorded. And that's the keystone of all you zealous Williams fans. Score this, score that,write a theme for this or that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,358 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Are you serious with response?You really don't see your own hypocrisy here?No, I don't. How is having a preference for a certain type of organization of cues on soundtrack albums have anything at all to do with desiring multiple interpretations and arrangements of a concert piece? I'm afraid the only thing I see here is you trying to grasp at straws in an effort to expose some grand inconsistency that you think exists in someone's preference that is different from your own.The only thing I said is that I would have loved to hear this (and, in fact, most pieces written for band) arranged for an orchestral ensemble, out of curiousity's sake. I didn't realize that was some enormous controversy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 So do you prefer the orchestra version of Johan de Meij's Lord Of The Rings piece or the original band arrangement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,358 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 So do you prefer the orchestra version of Johan de Meij's Lord Of The Rings piece or the original band arrangement?Never got around to that. Does it exist in both versions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,441 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Thor. maybe you're not understanding me correctly.You constantly proclaim that only the composer's self-arranged album should be released, and that an outside producer should not be allowed to come in and make a new CD arrangement with access to the complete recording sessions.But now you're also saying you want a composer to take a composition he wrote and intends to only be played by a brass ensemble, and turn it into a full orchestral arrangement, just because you want to hear it that way. This does not compute!Which is it - do you want to fully respect the composers wishes, or are people allowed to change a composers wishes? You can't have it both way or all your arguments fall completely apart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,358 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I still don't see what one has to do with the other. The soundtrack album issue deals with the organization of cues into a coherent listening experience (which, btw, can also be done by a savvy producer that is not the composer as long as 'listening experience' is the guiding factor). The other issue deals with the compositions themselves, which is a totally different thing. Not to mention that we're talking film music and classical music. I'm obviously all for multiple interpretations of cues, whether film or classical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 So do you prefer the orchestra version of Johan de Meij's Lord Of The Rings piece or the original band arrangement? Never got around to that. Does it exist in both versions?Of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,358 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Cool. I've been meaning to check it for years, so thanks for the extra 'push'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joni Wiljami 1,212 Posted February 15, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 15, 2016 On 2.10.2015 at 4:59 PM, hornist said: I made my orchestra to purchase the Fanfare for Fenway. Will be peformed in the brass concert next spring. And I made a funny mistake, I didn't know the ensemble is that big. So we'll need two more trumpets and a trombone. But good for them, it will be a nice gig, hah! The sold out performance will be after couple of weeks. Nice extra is that the encore will also be by Williams. Beautiful piece arranged for brass band with flugelhorn solo. I will remember it (for) always... Scarpia, Incanus and pete 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joni Wiljami 1,212 Posted March 5, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2016 So we had our brass concert, the house was full. Almost 2000 people there and they loved it. Fenway went well and everyone just fell in love with the encore. For Always. Next I will try to organize the performance of the Escapades(cmiyc) and of course TFA! or I will get fired because of my obsession...? Taikomochi, Cerebral Cortex, Loert and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,801 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Excellent Pasi! I wasn't able to come this time but if you perform Escapades or some other JW piece I'll hope to be there Joni Wiljami 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 10 hours ago, hornist said: I don't see 2000 people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,212 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Lol, this was taken 15 minutes before the concert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,801 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Obviously Stefan is following the adage "picture or it didn't happen". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 2 hours ago, hornist said: Lol, this was taken 15 minutes before the concert. Picture or it didn't happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pete 972 Posted June 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2020 New recording maybe? Anyway, new to YouTuibe and the montage was Williams' idea... Tom, KittBash, Omen II and 5 others 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,361 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 1 hour ago, pete said: New recording maybe? Anyway, new to YouTuibe and the montage was Williams' idea... Thanks for posting. I'm betting this was recorded ahead of the premiere at Fenway Park. Back then there was a very short video snippet of this being rehearsed at Symphony Hall and mics could clearly be seen. thx99 and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,713 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Gotta extract this. hmm trying to download the mkv video with videodlhelper messed up my computer. It created a file that won't play and couldn't delete .I had to boot in safe mode to delete it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,325 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 8 hours ago, pete said: New recording maybe? Anyway, new to YouTuibe and the montage was Williams' idea... Any chance someone can PM me with just the music in MP3 quality (possibly 320 kbps; if not, in good quality sound)? I have an inclination that this was not just recorded by the Boston Pops, but conducted by the Maestro himself. I remember that snippet that was seen and heard of the Maestro conducting the beginning of Fanfare for Fenway; I believe this is the entire recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 5,139 Posted June 14, 2020 Author Share Posted June 14, 2020 I want to like this piece, but I just don't. The beginning is nice, but I find it a bit annoying overall. Maybe its a baseball thing, which I also find annoying--well, if boring is a kind of annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,713 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Now it's a 1080p ADP video and i seem to be able to grab it. Wonder why it was a messed up MKV earlier. The Opus audio in it cuts off at 11 khz...which is abysmal quality. Like a 64 kbps MP3 and I don't see any better file embedded in the YouTube page . Boston Pops Intern # 4 seriously messed up the audio . Can someone with a youtube account comment about that? i thought it sounded pretty bad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,212 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 10 hours ago, Tom said: I want to like this piece, but I just don't. The beginning is nice, but I find it a bit annoying overall. Maybe its a baseball thing, which I also find annoying--well, if boring is a kind of annoying. I love this piece! I have performed it and if the tempo is fast enough, the energy is incredible in the live performance. The audience also loved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,361 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 14 hours ago, JohnnyD said: Any chance someone can PM me with just the music in MP3 quality (possibly 320 kbps; if not, in good quality sound)? I have an inclination that this was not just recorded by the Boston Pops, but conducted by the Maestro himself. I remember that snippet that was seen and heard of the Maestro conducting the beginning of Fanfare for Fenway; I believe this is the entire recording. I'm ready to bet everything on that this was conducted by Williams himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 9,044 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 11 hours ago, King Mark said: The Opus audio in it cuts off at 11 khz...which is abysmal quality. Like a 64 kbps MP3 and I don't see any better file embedded in the YouTube page . It's also in mono. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,713 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Must be a mistake right? They can't have done this on purpose Can someone please post on the YT comment: Dear Boston Pops. The audio in this video has a frequency cut off at 11 khz and is in mono. That is not even the quality of a 64kbps MP3 and beyond abysmal. Please fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1,835 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 https://berkshireonstage.wordpress.com/2012/03/25/john-williams-boston-pops-celebrate-fenway-parks-100th-with-a-fanfare/ https://www.mlb.com/redsox/video/williams-performs-new-tribute/c-20774065 SteveMc and Amer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Know 355 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 4 hours ago, King Mark said: Must be a mistake right? They can't have done this on purpose Can someone please post on the YT comment: Dear Boston Pops. The audio in this video has a frequency cut off at 11 khz and is in mono. That is not even the quality of a 64kbps MP3 and beyond abysmal. Please fix it. Why don’t you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,325 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 I posted a request in the comments to re-upload the video with the audio in stereo. I don't know what good it will do, though. Why doesn't someone who has a Twitter or Facebook account post directly to the Boston Pops via Twitter or Facebook (I don't use either, so I can't do it)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 5,139 Posted June 15, 2020 Author Share Posted June 15, 2020 13 hours ago, moi said: I love this piece! I have performed it and if the tempo is fast enough, the energy is incredible in the live performance. The audience also loved it. Yeah, I could see how it would be fun live. I will credit Williams, for I love just about every other of his fanfares. This tells me it is not rehash but something new. I am glad others like it. Joni Wiljami 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,713 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 was it you who posted my comment? 3 hours ago, JohnnyD said: I posted a request in the comments to re-upload the video with the audio in stereo. I don't know what good it will do, though. Why doesn't someone who has a Twitter or Facebook account post directly to the Boston Pops via Twitter or Facebook (I don't use either, so I can't do it)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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