DarthDementous

The score to The Force Unleashed has some very good imitations as well, but I can tell it's not QUITE the same:
 
 

When I think about Williams imitators, the first thing that comes to my mind is this:
 
 

I don't follow basketball much and didn't realize LeBron passed Kobe in all-time scoring only yesterday. To read about Kobe's congratulatory messages, and see this quote:
 
“I don't know if people want that or want to have this kind of contentious thing where you don't want records to be broken or people there to surpass you,” Bryant told USA TODAY Sports. “You should be happy for the person that comes after you to be able to surpass things that you've done. It's kind of juvenile to think or to behave any other way.”
 
...reminds me that Kobe was a true class act as well as an amazingly talented athlete. This is just a terrible tragedy.

Mr. Bellamy has entered the chat. 
 
 

What's funny is that this track is part of an album playlist, in which I have had two or three of the other tracks on my computer for a couple years already. So had I looked at that full playlist a few months ago, we could have avoided this entire debacle in the first place. 

I found it by accident on Audio Network. The track is just over 3 minutes long and is called "Space Battalions" composed by James Brett, a composer I've been somewhat familiar with for a couple years. I had actually suspected he or another composer on Audio Network had composed it, but I didn't come across it until just now.
 
You can listen to it here:
https://www.audionetwork.com/browse/m/track/space-battalions_149801

I really like how Williams uses something very similar to the transitionary bridge moment in the Rise of Skywalker concert track during the Anthem of Evil segment of the end credits in order to segue into a more intense rendition of the theme. Don't think it's 100% identical but I still like the similarity. 
 
 

Do we... Do we dare? Could it... Might it? Is it possible that...? 
 
Revenge of the Speeder Chase.mp4
 
No, no it's not.
 
Excellent job on those first two videos, Holky. Pretty cool stuff. 

What if...?
No, no, surely it won't.
 
 
 
Well, let's check anyway.
...
 
 
 

 
 
Holy shit

Based on all the passionate praise Williams repeatedly gives Daisy Ridley on his interviews, it is fair to assume he must have refused to provide a love theme for her with another man.

I was spoiled on the returning character unfortunately (by Russell T Davies posting a selfie on Instagram, no less!). But I was completely shocked by the second twist in the episode.
 
Finally, Chibnall is taking some risks. The show has been rather dull and boring overall since Moffat left. Sure it’s a nice change of pace, but even at his worst Moffat knew how to shake things up and tell new stories. And he was never boring. Colour me intrigued, I’m looking forward to seeing where this goes.

all I can say after tonight's episode is...holy shit.

It was definitely meant to represent Cloud City, and the almost sickly serene happiness of the sound was meant to convey that something was off about this place, that there was something lurking under a facade that was trying just a bit too hard to appear innocent.

The Orphan 55 episode was alright, for the first time the Chibnall era has started to resemble the heyday of the RTD era, you know, when it was fun and engaging. Just as that was setting in, the story still went nowhere and one after another of revelations and exposition without any time to develop, it went back to being a typical Chibnall era episode. The Drex or whatever they're called were interesting monster designs but less is more when you can't do much with them and unfortunately they were completely wasted by poor CG shots and stupids actions.
 
What happened to the Tardis, we hardly ever get to see it? It doesn't feel like a ship anymore.

For some reason I thought about the space battle today. SW and RotJ spend just enough time setting up the precise plans ahead of time, and you know the goals and can follow it first time even when things temporarily go wrong (shield's up, gotta bide time - got caught, gotta have a ground battle to get another chance to deactivate the shield).
 
I've seen TROS once, and... what happened above Exogol?
The Resistance just went because we gotta fight.
The FO was already there unified with the Sith fighters and fleet, into the Final Order, in... that 18 hour time limit they idiotically gave again in the opening?
Enemy fleet ridiculously big, no real tension.
Finn and co ride horses on a Star Destroyer, until they don't. I don't know if I'd even remember it if it wasn't in the trailer.
They go for the one antenna which controls all the gajillion ships until it doesn't because now another one does.
Lando arrives out of nowhere with another ridiculous fleet out of nowhere, no impact, meh, we only see 10 shots of the whole thing anyway.
Palps überlightnings everything and they all start going down until he doesn't and they don't.
At some point Finn (and BB maybe?) open some hatch?
Richard E Grant gets blown out the window and the battle is won and they all go home.
 
 
I have no fucking clue what happened.

Great video essay detailing how the Finn character was poorly handled by the trilogy, and TROS in particular
 
 

In hindsight...truly mark hammill must be very disappointed. He barely has any relevance in TFA and tros, being the supposed hero .. we never see him a great jedi really

I cannot overstate just how poorly handled Luke's character arc is in TROS. What a horrific waste of that character to just turn up for one scene, spend half of it justifying his actions in the previous film (which that film already explained to anyone actually paying attention) and the other half being little more than a convenient plot device to help Rey (Here, a new lightsaber! Here, an X-Wing!) 
 
It's actually embarrassing just how much of a misfire so many things in TROS are, but this one almost takes the cake (other than needlessly reintroducing an old villain when Rian brilliantly set the stage for Kylo to take that place, and also for Luke to play a more important role in his development, another element needlessly discarded). 

Wow thanks for summing that up, that does sound a lot better than JJ's film for sure

I can't overstate how much better the Trevorrow script is than what we got in Rise of Skywalker.
 
Someone here claimed it was 'stupid' and that's why it wasn't chosen, yet Rise of Skywalker is the absolute height of stupidity. The Trevorrow script, dubbed 'Episode 9: Duel of the Fates' is like the antithesis to what we got, if it was able to be produced with little creative compromise I believe it would've made this whole sequel trilogy worth it.
 
Just off the top of my head here's a quick comparison between the two scripts:
- The Emperor does not come back, he's just a hologram
- Hux isn't a joke of a man that gets killed instantly for his mind-numbingly stupid face-heel turn, he actually takes his place as Chancellor and helps lead the First Order whilst still having tension with Kylo Ren
- Kylo Ren doesn't get the cliche redemption end and there's no romantic relationship between him and Rey. This is a man that has doubled down on the dark side and unlike Vader it has left him devoid of the one thing that could save him - love.
- Actually draws from the good parts of the EU instead of some of the worst aspects (Dark Empire return of Palpatine, yet somehow doing it worse). We get to see the Kuat Shipyards, an Eclipse Star Destroyer, and the state of Coruscant under First Order occupation which with the way its described evokes the EU for me, a bit hard to explain why. Furthermore, even TCW gets some love by having it feature the planet of Mortis, a force well that naturally Kylo Ren would want to find and soak in the power of the force there.
- The script is driven by characters and their interactions and relationships with each other, not stitched together action scenes. There's no macguffin, let alone four, and it's all about Rey finally confronting Kylo Ren at the height of his power
- Rey doubts herself in realistic ways and actually demonstrates character and personality, she wants to live up to what it means to be a Jedi but she struggles with that and worries that its making her dangerous. It's probably the closest she's felt to being similar to Luke's character this entire trilogy.
- The legacy cast are not glorified cameos. I can't state how much better handled the OT cast is. While yes you do have the limitations of Carrie Fisher no longer being alive, Luke actually has a purpose in the story by visiting both Kylo Ren and Rey as a mentor. The interplay between Luke and Kylo would've been fantastic, as he attempts to convince him to turn away from this path but is shut out by Kylo, and mentoring Rey directly as he should've done in TLJ. Furthermore, Lando actually gets a realistic character arc, given the First Order rose from the Empire and took over everything he's feeling dispossessed and wondering if all of this was worth it. I understand completely where he's coming from, and that would've make his appearance near the end with his army of smugglers all the more satisfying ala Han Solo. Plus, R2, C3P0, and Chewie all get their hero moments and aren't just around as wandering comic relief.
- They acknowledge Finn is a stormtrooper fucking finally. Finn actually leads a stormtrooper uprising near the end of the movie and has interplay with a specific First Order trooper that he knew when he was apart of it. They had such an excellent concept established with TFA then proceeded to do nothing with it in the subsequent movies, and this would've been so satisfying and made Finn a character that should've been there.
- The sexual sterility of the ST would've been amended with Poe constantly trying to flirt with Rey, its one-sided and she even uses that to her advantage to manipulate him to get to safety but it would've added some much needed humanity to these movies that the OT had.
- We get to see both Rey and Kylo Ren train, particularly the latter would've been incredible to see under the guise of the enigmatic, impossibly ancient and cruelly wise Tor Vallum, described as being almost eldritch in appearance. He would've taught Kylo Ren how to drain the life force from others, which, a new force ability actually being taught instead of pulled out of thin air would've been a first for the ST. However, the best part of this would've been him fighting vision Vader and losing horribly, I can't imagine how amazing this scene would be from a visual and a character standpoint, there's a lot of subtext there and even something on a meta-level. Vader has always been something Kylo Ren has tried to rise beyond in power, and now he faces that directly.
- Although I think TLJ is a terrible, terrible movie, I have a lot of respect for this script for achieving what it does without shitting all over what came before and giving the audience whiplash. It's actually completely congruent with TLJ, Rey is still nobody, Kylo Ren is the Supreme Leader, Luke follows through with his promise to 'always be with' Kylo Ren', and the First Order has subjugated the galaxy - and this movie shows how with their shipyards and iron rule on Coruscant as well as other planets.

That's just some of the good parts of this script, I highly recommend you check out the two podcasts Rob Burnett did on THEBURNETT NETWORK youtube channel to hear more details about this tantalising script.
 
For all those doubting the legitimacy I honestly have to ask - how? The source is reputable, backed up by other reputable sources as well, and its too intricate and congruent with the state of both this hypothetical movie's production and the Rise of Skywalker's production (there's a lot of similar elements), I think it's only a matter of time before the entire script is out in the public and I for one can't wait to read it.
 
 
PT2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m62H56LMB-U
 
 
 
 

https://news.avclub.com/turns-out-colin-trevorrows-version-of-star-wars-episod-1841002112
 
Corroboration for the Trevorrow script leak.

Well this news has confirmed that the time to die is in fact now.

I just watched it - I was enjoying it up until the last 10 mins when it all went to shit.
 
The oxygen subplot was pretty tense, and those creatures are actually scary. If they'd stuck offworld and come up with something more clever, this could have been better.
 
That sermon at the end though... what the fuck? Which writer thought that was a good idea?

Those stories didn't feel 'finger-wagging' to me, though. Whereas it seemed last night that if Jodie had been allowed to look directly down the camera to tell us all off, she would've.