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    Trope reacted to Henry Sítrónu in The Official James Horner Thread   
    yes, the unreleased parts in Deep Impact (first part of the movie)  are soooo good. Piano, Synths, bass … gosh I love this stuff. 
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    Trope reacted to karelm in The Official James Horner Thread   
    It is crazy to imagine if James Horner were still alive, he would only be 69.  He would probably still be a major figure in the scoring world.    
     
    In contrast, Silvestri is 73.  Zimmer is 65.  Elfman is also 69.  James Newton Howard is 71.  
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    Trope reacted to Jean-Baptiste Martin in The Official James Horner Thread   
    To celebrate the one year anniversary of the concert, the video of Spectral Shimmers is now available.
     

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    Trope got a reaction from bruce marshall in Ennio Morricone's The Untouchables (La-La Land 2CD Complete)   
    Absolutely! I get emotional every time I listen to the "main theme" (i.e. the end credits theme). The choice to score the heroes' victories with such a strong, noble and upright theme is so effective in the film. Since the characters are essentially up against impossible odds through much of the film, when they do get victory at the end and Morricone lets loose with this incredible music, it never fails to give me chills. It makes the good guys' struggle so much more moving and meaningful.
     
    Also, the way he orchestrates the 3 or 4 trumpets (along with horns) so that they are constantly overlapping and "dialoguing" with each other is awesome on a purely technical level.
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    Trope got a reaction from Jurassic Shark in Ennio Morricone's The Untouchables (La-La Land 2CD Complete)   
    Absolutely! I get emotional every time I listen to the "main theme" (i.e. the end credits theme). The choice to score the heroes' victories with such a strong, noble and upright theme is so effective in the film. Since the characters are essentially up against impossible odds through much of the film, when they do get victory at the end and Morricone lets loose with this incredible music, it never fails to give me chills. It makes the good guys' struggle so much more moving and meaningful.
     
    Also, the way he orchestrates the 3 or 4 trumpets (along with horns) so that they are constantly overlapping and "dialoguing" with each other is awesome on a purely technical level.
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    Trope reacted to Jurassic Shark in Ennio Morricone's The Untouchables (La-La Land 2CD Complete)   
    Agreed. Not to mention the awesome main titles theme. All the themes in this score are memorable. 
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    Trope got a reaction from Bespin in Ennio Morricone's The Untouchables (La-La Land 2CD Complete)   
    Sorry to bump this thread, but I thought I would echo support for LLL re-releasing or reissuing this amazing score. It may be my favourite Morricone, and the 2CD set from 2012 is currently selling for an average of $300AUD. I don't know exactly how reissues work, but they've done several in the past few years (E.T., Close Encounters, Jurassic Park, Braveheart) which have allowed me to get my hands on these incredible expansions without having to pay insane prices (or just not being able to listen to them at all). If this were reissued, it would be an instant purchase from me. 
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    Trope reacted to Edmilson in Star Wars no longer using Star Wars music   
    Honestly, I think modern-day Disney has "John Williams Star Wars scores" VERY VERY LOW in their list of priorities. They are extremely busy trying to figure out a way to make people stop cancelling their Disney+ subscriptions without overspending with new TV shows like they were doing. Who cares about music for some old movies? Especially when the OSTs (which, in their point of view, contains everything people need from those scores) are on streaming services.
     
    If I was pessimistic before when they were in a good financial state, now that they're in crisis I think the odds of they dedicating time and effort to the Williams scores are as low as Uwe Boll receiving an Oscar for Best Director.
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    Trope reacted to Manakin Skywalker in Star Wars no longer using Star Wars music   
    The Lego Skywalker Saga trailers and promo clips all used Extreme Music as well, mostly James Brett material and the rest from Ralf Wienrich.
     
    Kind of embarrassing that a massive company like Disney needs to resort to using stock music and sound-alikes for their largest IP.
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    Trope reacted to Manakin Skywalker in Sony Classical to release Ultimate Star Wars Soundtrack Collection (January 8, 2016)   
    Technically true, remember that this is in reference to the vinyl remasters, which were released digitally in 2016... NOT the 2018 demasters.
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    Trope reacted to MrJosh in Sony Classical to release Ultimate Star Wars Soundtrack Collection (January 8, 2016)   
    They should hire him to do the track titles for future releases:
     
    Star Wars 5 2025 Vinyl Complete Music Symphony
     
    01 Fox Trumpet Song
    02 Star Wars Start Song
    03 Hoth Music
    04 Imperial Walk (long version)
    05 Asteroid Field Big Song
    06 Yoda Melody
    07 Han Solo And Leia Love Song
    08 Star Destroyer Theme
    09 Darth Vader Orchestra Music
    10 X-Wing Goes Up Tune
    11 Cloud City and Lando Love Song
    12 Carbonite Theme
    13 Luke VS Vader Epic Song
    14 Rebel Ships Love Song and End Song (Long Edition)
     
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    Trope got a reaction from MrJosh in Remasters of the First 6 Star Wars Soundtracks now available (Shawn Murphy / Disney Records 2018)   
    At 2:11, Dann Michael Thompson says, "You will hear things you didn't hear before." He is correct. I didn't hear the awkward edits, incorrect performance takes, poor phase alignment, drop-outs, and the absence of a right stereo channel in TESB before listening to these demasters.
     
    He should also have said, "Things you did hear before you will never hear again," since Disney removed the far superior 2016 remasters from digital streaming services worldwide.
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    Trope reacted to Tom in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Disney Records Original Soundtrack Album) - NO FILM SPOILERS!   
    2073 Boardroom discussion: 
    "Should we release an expanded version of Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny?"  
    "No, I don't think it will sell."
    "Well, there are a lot of JWFANers who have been looking forward to it."
    "I know, but they are all dead." 
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    Trope reacted to King Mark in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Disney Records Original Soundtrack Album) - NO FILM SPOILERS!   
    71 minutes
    Raider's March (classic version) +Reprise at the end of Album
    Best Version of all time of the Raider's March in the underscore not on the album(aka Indy Arrives)
    Finale with interpolation of the Raiders March and Helena's Theme unreleased
     
    Expanded Release in 20 years(I might be dead by then)
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    Trope reacted to Andy in Jerry Goldsmith - The Secret of NIMH (new Intrada Expanded)   
    Ordered anyway. 
     
    They’ll probably find all the lost masters tomorrow. 
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    Trope reacted to JTW in Original Star Wars albums now available in Spatial Audio on Tidal and Apple Music   
    I’ll be fine with my stereo CDs for the OT remastered by Mike Matessino released by one of the specialty labels in 2077 for the 100th Anniversary of Star Wars and the 145th Birthday Celebration of John Williams. 
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    Trope reacted to Andy in Jaws, how well do you know this iconic score   
    I have the Intrada original, but this absolutely infuriates me.  I wish there were a better model for the limited editions.  I’m not missing Jaws, but there are always some I wish I had picked up. 
     

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    Trope reacted to Jurassic Shark in Jaws, how well do you know this iconic score   
    Interviewer: What was your approach to your scores for A.I. or Munich or The Book Thief, and your experience with Alan Parker on Angela's Ashes?
    JW: Can't remember. Ask me about cookies and dead composers. 
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    Trope reacted to aj_vader in Original Star Wars albums now available in Spatial Audio on Tidal and Apple Music   
    Here is a bit of the centre channel for The Imperial March. THAT TIMPANI! 🤩
    Imperial March Centre .mp3
    The Battle In The Snow. Listen to that Contrabassoon! 🤩
    The Battle In The Snow (Contrabassoon).mp3
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    Trope reacted to QuartalHarmony in Sabrina 2 CD from La-La Land Records (2023)   
    Not much better to the UK.
     
    A relative of mine lives in the US and comes to the UK every so often. I keep buying him presents from US companies before remembering that I have a CD player and like JW but he doesn’t. Silly me. He opens the packages when they arrive at his house and then kindly gifts them to me the next time he visits, since I’ll appreciate them more than him.
     
    Or something like that.
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    Trope reacted to Chewy in Original Star Wars albums now available in Spatial Audio on Tidal and Apple Music   
    It's definitely fixed, you're probably still listening to the old version. The left-channel annoying mix from the 2018 version is completely gone and the edit was corrected.
     
    2018 version :
     
    2018.mp3
     
    New version:
     
    Atmos.mp3
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    Trope reacted to Chewy in Original Star Wars albums now available in Spatial Audio on Tidal and Apple Music   
    Those atmos mixes are legit!
     
     
    Cantina.wav
    Cantina2.wav
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    Trope reacted to TheAvengerButton in Musical Themes and Motifs from Jedi: Fallen Order   
    Another May the 4th, yet another Star Wars video game soundtrack to go through. Before I get into things, I want to emphasize that this soundtrack was a collaboration between two talented composers, and while I can guess at what each contributed to this project I will do my best to give both composers equal credit for what follows if need arises.
     
    With that said, let's jump in. Starting with:
     
    MAJOR THEMES
     
    Cal’s Theme
     
    Track recommendation: Cal Kestis
     
    Cal’s theme is the dominant musical idea. It is this soundtrack’s glue. While it shares not a lot of DNA with Rey’s theme from the sequel trilogy, the modes in which it appears throughout the soundtrack, particularly in moments where Cal is being cerebral, remind me of how Williams would make Rey’s theme more cerebral and slow at times. Start the track Cal Kestis at 0:00 and listen to all the different ways that Cal can be understood musically.
     
    Cere
     
    Track recommendation: Oggdo Boggdo

    Cere’s theme is very complimentary to Cal’s thematic music. It’s especially appealing when they are played together as counter melodies like you can hear in Fight or Flight, but Cere’s theme gets some time to really shine in the latter half of the track Oggdo Boggdo. After dealing with the giant titular creature, you can hear a beautiful and soft rendition of Cere’s theme starting at 3:36.
     
    BD-1
     
    Track recommendation: BD-1 and the Boglings

    Evoking memories of the droids motif in Empire Strikes Back, we have the fun motif for BD-1. Appearing at 0:04 in BD-1 and the Boglings, as well as popping up in various places throughout the rest of the soundtrack, BD-1 brings some much needed brightness to an otherwise oft-brooding soundtrack.
     
    Eno Cordova
     
    Track recommendation: Eno Cordova’s Theme

    If you’ve played the game, you’ll instantly recognize Eno’s theme. It plays on the start menu and is an absolutely charming song. To me it enjoins a few other tunes on this album that sound more at home in an Elder Scrolls game than Star Wars, but that actually helps it become a stand out piece of music giving listeners a new feeling in a Star Wars soundtrack.
     
    Merrin
     
    Track recommendation: Nightsister

    Every time I heard this track in the game I couldn’t help but think of the last third of Prologue and the Escape from Battlefront II’s soundtrack. Seriously, go listen to that, it’s nearly the same (that’s how you can tell that Gordy probably wrote it). Starting at 0:15 in the track Nightsister, Merrin’s theme is parts tragic and mysterious. When Barton and Haab bring it back towards the end of the soundtrack playing it in a more positive mode it shows the theme’s strength in versatility.
     
    Malicos
     
    Track recommendation: The Wanderer

    This six note motif feels very “Serpent in the garden”. As a villain theme it’s a lot more slithery as opposed to Trilla’s theme which is like a Universal Monster score. Malicos IS the devil in this Star Wars playground, so it’s fitting that his theme begins reaching up for a height only to fall back down low. You can hear it starting at 0:21 on The Wanderer.
     
    Dark Side
     
    Track recommendation: Fortress Inquisitorius

    This theme came as such a surprise to me, especially it’s usage in Fortress Inquisitorius starting at 3:05 though it pops up in other tracks like Cal Kestis and Crashed Venator. It’s tragic, grand and gothic.  Fitting as a theme for the fallen symbols of the old Jedi Order as the Dark Side wreaks havoc across the galaxy. Fortress Inquisitorius is a powerhouse track, by the way. Absolute best on the album—I love how the track seems to crescendo in danger and energy as it goes on until that death march towards the end of the song when the percussion kicks in.
     
    Trilla
     
    Track recommendation: The Inquisition

    What’s fascinating to me about this theme is how this sounds completely different than what one would expect to hear of a main villain’s theme in a Star Wars piece of media. I likened it before to a Universal Monster score and it really does fit into that family very well, but Barton and Haab’s mastery of pastiche helps them blend it into and also expand the sound palette of Star Wars game scoring. Start the track The Inquisition and get ready to have your ear drums blown by the explosive low brass playing the theme at 0:04. However, the more iconic version of this theme gets played in the high strings, creating a piercing effect like nails on a chalkboard (in a good way).
     
     
    MINOR THEMES AND MOTIFS
     
    Bogano (“Bogano”)

    I wanted to highlight this track for being so out of the typical Star Wars element. The way Barton and Haab really leaned into the fantastical, whimsical Lord of the Rings-esque scoring on this soundtrack helps give it it’s own identity. Of you’re looking for the Star Wars version of something lime Shore’s “Concerning Hobbits” this is as close as you can probably get. 
     
    Creatures of Bogano (“BD-1 and the Boglings”)

    This little idea plays in the latter half of BD-1 and the Boglings, and also the track Oggdo Boggdo. It represents the fauna of Bogano. You can hear this theme starting at 1:51.
     
    The Origin Tree (“Kashyyyk”, “The Origin Tree”, “Chieftan Tarrful”, “Flight of the Shyyyo Bird”)

    This little riff appears across several of the Kashyyyk tracks. You can hear it at the following places:

    0:40 Kashyyyk
    0:37 The Origin Tree
    1:16 Chieftan Tarrful
     1:00 Flight of the Shyyyo Bird
     
    For the longest time I didn’t know what to call this riff but noticed it predominantly played while you’re in the wildlands of Kashyyyk looking for Tarrful.
     
    Saw and the Partisans (“The Mantis Lands”, “Saw’s Plan”)

    This one plays in moments where Saw Gerrera is hanging around. You can hear it at 0:19 and 1:08 in The Mantis Lands, as well as 0:10 Saw's Plan.
     
    Dathomir Figures (“To Dathomir”, “Nightsister”)

    Not necessarily anything to get too excited over, but the music on Dathomir is very atmospheric and not very musical save for these three ideas that appear over the course of several different tracks that heavily feature on the planet. It’s most likely one solid idea, but I’ve split it up into three different parts to help differentiate what is being heard:

    Dathomir Danger Brass 1: 3:27 in To Dathomir, 2:31 in Nightsister.
    Dathomir Danger Brass 2: 3:34 in To Dathomir, 3:44 in Nightsister.
    Dathomir Danger Woodwind: 3:19 in To Dathomir 2:26 in Nightsister.
     
    Tragic Memories (“Memories of Days Past”, “Failure is Not the End”)

    This is first heard in the track Memories of Days Past at 1:31. It signifies the tragic memory of Cal’s failure to save his master and preserve the Jedi ideals for which he once stood. It can also be heard in Failure is Not The End at around 0:39.
     
    Gorgara

    This little ditty sounds like it came straight from a Jurassic Park album. For real, it’s a four note motif that plays whenever the giant Dathomir bat is causing mischief and it is very analogous to the raptor motif from the original Jurassic Park film. You first hear it at around 0:30 in the track and it repeats at several points throughout the rest of the track.
     
    Fight or Flight

    This one is very minor, but at 1:05 a little riff plays to kick off the action cue of this piece. This riff ends up coming back at 2:58 or so.
     
    AT-AT Hijacked

    More action cues, our first being the figure heard starting at 0:37. You’ll hear this again at 0:55, and a few more times after that until we get into the Asteroid Field pastiche at 1:47 which has a recurring melody that sounds a lot like the melody that Williams wrote for Galaxy’s Edge, just in action mode.
     

    These next couple I’m a little hesitant to call them themes or motifs, so I’ve settled on “idea” as the descriptor for what this music is.
     
     
    Zeffo

    You first hear this planets thematic idea at 0:21. This little ditty plays in variation throughout the rest of the track.
     
    Ilum

    Ilum doesn’t have much in the way of thematic material save a little movement that comes in at 1:17 and repeats until the end of the track.
     
    Tomb of Kujet

    This song contains a repeating pattern, first heard at 0:16, (with a variation taking over as the main mode around 1:08) which repeats at points throughout the track in different sections. There’s also another separate motif that repeats at parts first heard at 2:11 which then repeats until the end of the track.
     
    EXTRAS
     
    There’s a nod to Gordy’s Battlefront II Kashyyyk music at the start of the Kashyyyk track. We get a cameo from the Force theme in Jedi Starfighter (0:33) There’s some ambience that happens in An Unscheduled Stop that sounds eerily similar to some ambience from Pilio Wasteland from Battlefront II. There’s some very nice Asteroid Field pastiche in AT-AT Hijacked at around 1:47 as previously mentioned.  
    There you have it! Hopefully this will help you get a little more acquainted with this score. It's some really great Star Wars stuff that doesn't rely as much on pastiche as past game scores have (not that pastiche is a bad thing, of course. This is not a knock against anyone's work).
     
    Anyone have a favorite from this soundtrack?
     
    EDIT: I hope this is showing up okay for people.
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