The La-La Land Black Friday 2023 thread

[1977 1,743]

My predictions based on absolutely nothing other than idle speculation:

 

The Godfather: Part II

Jurassic Park ///

Born on the Fourth of July

Something else (perhaps Bond?)

Another something (The Mask of Zorro?)

 

Thoughts?

[Stark 316]

2 minutes ago, JTWfan77 said:

My predictions based on absolutely nothing other than idle speculation:

 

The Godfather: Part II

Jurassic Park ///

Born on the Fourth of July

Something else (perhaps Bond?)

Another something (The Mask of Zorro?)

 

Thoughts?

That would be a very cool selection! All seem reasonable enough, though I’d guess it’ll be a bit longer before JP3.

[Bellosh 3,419]

8 minutes ago, JTWfan77 said:

Is it too early to start the LLL Black Friday 2023 thread?

 

Never

[Edmilson 7,466]

I'll copy and paste here what I said on the other thread:

 

The pessimistic/realistic JW fan in me says that, if Mike spent so much time on such a complex project like TSoM, then he probably didn't have time nor energy to work on a JW project for the Black Friday, not even a "smaller" one like Catch me If You Can or Nixon.

 

I have a bad feeling that we only will get new MM John Williams expansions next year.

 

On the other hand, judging by some comments on the Horner thread, I think The Mask of Zorro is a pretty good bet!

[Faleel 5,355]

27 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

I'll copy and paste here what I said on the other thread:

 

The pessimistic/realistic JW fan in me says that, if Mike spent so much time on such a complex project like TSoM, then he probably didn't had time nor energy to work on a JW project for the Black Friday, not even a "smaller" one like Catch me If You Can or Nixon.

 

 

1 how much time did he have to spend on it, seeing as quite a bit groundwork was already laid back in the 90's etc.

 

2 there could be things he worked on a while back or after that could come out.

[bollemanneke 3,349]

Never too early for BF threads. As HP4 won't happen, I hope for Hook or The Terminal. Or a more recent Zimmer.

[Richard Penna 3,694]

3 hours ago, JTWfan77 said:

Jurassic Park ///

 

I want, but based on MV's comments about having a couple of 60s Universal titles this year, I fear we may be waiting a bit longer.

 

However, I so badly hope he wasn't being completely literal. There couldn't conceivbly be a better time to put it out than now.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,544]

All those sound great, but, frankly, the only two possible releases which interest me, at this time, are C&Cs of BRAINSTORM, and J.F.K.

[A. A. Ron 1,742]

I predict the batch will look something like this:
 

The Godfather, Part II
Jurassic Park III

Moonraker

Spider-Man 2 (though I seem to remember rights issues on both 2 & 3)

A Golden/Silver Age Title

 

If there is a Williams, I bet it’s Angela’s Ashes, Born on the Fourth of July or Catch Me If You Can.

 

[1977 1,743]

If we get a Horner release I hope it will be a premiere, such as I Love You to Death.

[Tallguy 3,398]

YouTube has suddenly been feeding me a lot of Buckaroo Banzai videos. So maybe it's Buckaroo Banzai. Seriously, this makes total sense.

[1977 1,743]

I just realised that we likely will have no further batches from LLL until BF. Where has the time gone??

[Smaug The Iron 516]

We will have one more in the beginning of November 

[Jay 37,369]

6 hours ago, JTWfan77 said:

I just realised that we likely will have no further batches from LLL until BF. Where has the time gone??

 

 

On 05/09/2023 at 10:08 AM, Jay said:

Below is our plan for the rest of the year:

Sept 5 -- Star Trek TOS Vol 2 (cd release)
War of the Worlds/When Worlds Collide (cd release)

Sept 12 -- Scarface (Limited edition Vinyl pressing)

Oct 3 -- One title for sure...possibly 2

Nov 7 -- One title for sure...possibly 2

Nov 24 -- Our Black Friday batch...4 to 5 titles

[1977 1,743]

Ah, that's good news. How did I miss that?

[JTN 2,030]

2 minutes ago, JTWfan77 said:

Ah, that's good news. How did I miss that?

You’re not a true fan. 😉

[1977 1,743]

It was my wallet. My wallet made me forget 😭

[JTN 2,030]

2 minutes ago, JTWfan77 said:

It was my wallet. My wallet made me forget 😭

Tell me about it. 5 to 7 titles and it’s still November. And then there’s the Intrada Solo release. 

[1977 1,743]

I'm afraid of it ain't Williams I won't be getting it. I've had to set some serious boundaries on my soundtrack spending.

 

[JTN 2,030]

9 minutes ago, JTWfan77 said:

I'm afraid of it ain't Williams I won't be getting it. I've had to set some serious boundaries on my soundtrack spending.

 

Same here. My life has seriously changed in the last 6 months. I’ve been collecting soundtrack CDs for 30 years and never did I have to limit myself. Until now. But I’ve had to face reality, I can’t afford to buy every CD I’m interested in anymore. I consider myself very lucky if I can buy one a month (which I can’t). And as much as I’d want to get the new JW box set, it’s completely out of the question for me now. A year ago I’d have bought it in a heartbeat. 

[Jay 37,369]

LLL UPDATE FOR NOVEMBER 2023 (BLACK FRIDAY)

 

As we sit here and sweat bullets to see what titles will be approved in time for Black Friday 2023, we wanted to give you a run down on things

Nov 7 -- 2 releases coming out that day

Nov 24 - starting at 12 am est we start to announce our final slate of releases for 2023 and FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER begin to take orders on them as they are announced. We are scrambling for last minute approvals. The folks at the studios have been incredible helping us make these projects a reality but things sometimes don't move as quickly as we like (we've been going through the approval process for months and months on some titles). As of right now we potentially have 8 releases for Black Friday. Of those 8 titles, 4 have finally been approved and off to manufacture.

Will all 8 be done in time? I doubt it. Most likely, some of these titles will spill over to Jan or Feb of the next year.

As soon as we know how many titles will make the final cut we will let you know.

MV

 

https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=152467&forumID=1&archive=0

[Brando 1,864]

6 for sure for the rest of the year! Other than some obvious wants, I’d like JP///.

[Manakin Skywalker 4,897]

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

Can't wait to find out which JW score they don't announce 

[Brando 1,864]

27 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said:

You should’ve made a disclaimer on there: no additives or Sugarland Express!

[Holko 9,529]

2 hours ago, Jay said:

Most likely, some of these titles will spill over to Jan or Feb of the next year.

So July or August.

[JTN 2,030]

6 to 10 more releases this year, just by LLL?
 

 

[Richard Penna 3,694]

8 releases... wow. Even 6 of those would make a super sized BF. They usually have four or five don't they?

[JTN 2,030]

Yeah, I guess approvals by the studios/filmmakers screwed up LLL’s release plans this year, so they have to combine all their releases into one super batch. Not pleasant for anyone, especially for those with a thin wallet. And then there’s Intrada, Varèse Sarabande and Quartet. It’s both great and awful that there’re so many new releases coming out at the same time. 

[Jay 37,369]

On 25/10/2023 at 5:00 AM, Richard Penna said:

8 releases... wow. Even 6 of those would make a super sized BF. They usually have four or five don't they?

 

2008

1. Shirley Walker, Lolita Ritmanis, and Michael McCuistion - Batman: The Animated Series (2CD)
2. Mark Snow - Millennium (2CD)
3. Bear McCreary - Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles

2009

1. Jerry Goldsmith - Innerspace
2. James Newton Howard - The Fugitive (2CD)
3. Les Baxter - Panic In Year Zero

2010

1. James Horner - Jade (15th Anniversary)
2. Danny Elfman - Batman Returns (2CD)
3. Jerry Goldsmith - Star Trek V: The Final Frontier (2CD)
4. John Williams - Home Alone (20th Anniversary)

2011

1. Danny Elfman - Scrooged  (1195 - 3,000)
2. Michael Kamen - Die Hard (2CD) (1188 - 3,500)
3. Ennio Morricone - Fat Man and Little Boy (2CD) (1196 - 3,000)
4. Jerry Goldsmith - Tora! Tora! Tora! (1197 - 2,000)

2012

1. Various - Star Trek: The Original Series (15 CD) (1701 - 6000)
2. Ennio Morricone - The Untouchables (25th Anniversary) (1236 - 3500)
3. Michael Kamen - Die Hard With A Vengeance (2CD) (1233 - 4000)
4. John Williams - Home Alone 2: Lost In New York (20th Anniversary) (2CD) (1232 - 3000)

2013

1. John Debney - Bonnie and Clyde (1292 - unlimited)
2. Michael Kamen - Lethal Weapon Soundtrack Collection (8CD) (1287 - 3,000)
3. John Ottman - Superman Returns (2CD) (1282 - 3,000)
4. Dimitri Tiomkin - Gunfight at the OK Corral (1280 - 2,000)
5. Robert Folk - Police Academy (1269 - 3,000)

2014

1. Danny Elfman - Big Top Pee Wee (1334 - 2,500)
2. Various - Star Trek: Enterprise (4CD) (1330 - 3,000)
3. John Debney - Passion Of The Christ (10th Anniversary) (2CD) (1329 - 10,000)
4. Danny Elfman - Batman / Batman Returns (4CD) (1327 - 3,000)
5. David Arnold - Shaft (1326 - 2,500)

2015

1. James Horner - The Pagemaster (1378 - 2,000)
2. James Horner - Braveheart (20th Anniversary) (2CD) (1375 - 3,000)
3. John Williams - Home Alone (25th Anniversary) (2CD) (1374 - 5,000)
4. John Barry - Dances With Wolves (25th Anniversary) (2CD) (1350 - 5,000)
5. Dimitri Tiomkin - Giant (2CD) (1333 - 3,000)

2016

1. Various - Star Trek: 50th Anniversary Collection (4CD) (1410 - 3,000)

2. John Williams - Jurassic Park / The Lost World (4CD) (1409 - 5,000)

3. Don Ellis - French Connection I & II / Brad Fiedel - Popeye Doyle (2CD) (1408 - 2,000)

4. Harold Faltermeyer - Beverly Hills Cop II (1407 - 3,000)

5. Harold Faltermeyer - Beverly Hills Cop (1406 - 3,000)

2017

1. David Arnold - Die Another Day (15th Anniversary) (2CD)
2. James Horner - Titanic (20th Anniversary) (4CD)
3. John Williams - Close Encounters of the Third Kind (40th Anniversary) (2CD)
4. Leslie Bricusse - Doctor Dolittle (50th Anniversary) (2CD)
5. David Shire - Apocalypse Now - The Unused Score

2018

1. John Williams - Harry Potter: The John Williams Soundtrack Collection (7CD)
2. John Williams - Schindler's List (25th Anniversary) (2CD)
3. David Arnold - The World Is Not Enough (2CD)
4. Wojciech Kilar - Bram Stoker's Dracula (3CD)
5. Various - Land of the Giants 50th Anniversary Soundtrack Collection (4CD)

2019

1. John Williams - The John Williams Disaster Movie Soundtrack Collection (4CD)
2. Various - Nevada Smith - The Paramount Westerns Collection (4CD)
3. David Arnold - Stargate (25th Anniversary) (2CD)
4. Bill Conti - The Karate Kid (35th Anniversary)
5. Various - Star Trek Voyager Collection Volume 2 (4CD)

2020

1. Bear McCreary - Freaky
2. Goldsmith At 20th Vol. 1 - Von Ryan's Express / The Blue Max (2CD)
3. Goldsmith At 20th Vol. 2 - The Detective / The Flim-Flam Man
4. Bill Conti - The Karate Kid Part III
5. Ernest Troost & Robert Folk - Tremors (30th Anniversary) (2CD)
6. Mark Snow - The X-Files Volume 4 (4CD)

2021

1. John Williams - Fiddler on the Roof (50th Anniversary) (3CD)
2. Alfred Newman - The Diary of Anne Frank (2CD)
3. Bill Conti  - The Next Karate Kid
4. Harry Manfredini - Friday The 13th
5. Craig Armstrong - Love Actually

2022

1. John Williams - Amistad (25th Anniversary) (2CD)
2. Danny Elfman - Spider-Man (20th Anniversary) (2CD)
3. David Arnold - Tomorrow Never Dies (2CD)
4. Nino Rota - The Godfather (50th Anniversary) (2CD) 
5. Jerry Goldsmith - The Burbs

[MedigoScan 324]

I hope this JP3 talk is more than just wishful thinking.

 

[Nemesis 245]

11 minutes ago, Jay said:

 

Here's the complete list you can look at

2022 is missing on first post.

[JNHFan2000 2,966]

That is very exciting news!!

Looking forward to the announcements

[Richard Penna 3,694]

53 minutes ago, MedigoScan said:

I hope this JP3 talk is more than just wishful thinking.

 

 

Realistically it's not really based on anything other than given LLL have been getting the first two definitively done, it's the perfect time to do the third. From a personal perspective, barring studio/licensing problems (which will putter a spanner in HP 4), I don't like seeing franchises that started with Williams and continued under other batons, stop just because the Williams ones are out.

 

So wishful thinking? Kinda yep.

[Tallguy 3,398]

I find myself hoping I don't want at least half of these.

[Edmilson 7,466]

I already know what these 8 scores are gonna be:

1. Star Wars: Episode I: The Phantom Menace;
2. Star Wars: Episode II: Attack of the Clones;
3. Star Wars: Episode III: Revenge of the Sith;
4. Star Wars: Episode IV: A New Hope;
5. Star Wars: Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back;
6. Star Wars: Episode VI: Return of the Jedi;
7. Raiders of the Lost Ark;
8. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom;

[JTN 2,030]

5 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

I already know what these 8 scores are gonna be:

1. Star Wars: Episode I: The Phantom Menace;
2. Star Wars: Episode II: Attack of the Clones;
3. Star Wars: Episode III: Revenge of the Sith;
4. Star Wars: Episode IV: A New Hope;
5. Star Wars: Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back;
6. Star Wars: Episode VI: Return of the Jedi;
7. Raiders of the Lost Ark;
8. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom;

All of these as 2-CD sets. 

[Tallguy 3,398]

18 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

I already know what these 8 scores are gonna be:

1. Star Wars: Episode I: The Phantom Menace;
2. Star Wars: Episode II: Attack of the Clones;
3. Star Wars: Episode III: Revenge of the Sith;
4. Star Wars: Episode IV: A New Hope;
5. Star Wars: Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back;
6. Star Wars: Episode VI: Return of the Jedi;
7. Raiders of the Lost Ark;
8. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom;

 

Even I'm not falling for that one. Probably.

 

That would be a very tense financial discussion at my house. "Christmas is cancelled, everyone! Daddy has Star Wars music to buy!"

[bollemanneke 3,349]

1 hour ago, Tallguy said:

I find myself hoping I don't want at least half of these.

I don't, I seriously need Christmas present ideas, fast.

[JTN 2,030]

58 minutes ago, bollemanneke said:

I don't, I seriously need Christmas present ideas, fast.

And by that you mean, for you. 

[bollemanneke 3,349]

Yes. I have a family that doesn't understand that there are people who don't always want something. LLL might help fast-forward that argument this year again.

[Dr. Rick 1,157]

Fingers crossed for another SS / JW entry like CMIYC or The Terminal.  Not holding my breath for Hook lol

[Jay 37,369]

From the same FSM thread

 

8 releases, wow! That's ambitious even if they don't all make Black Friday, thanks for all the work LLL!

Not by choice lol

For some reason 2023 had been the year of long approvals which, ironically, made our release slate a mess because we weren't focusing on getting product out in the first quarter. Our rein tightening became a full blown stop and like some out of control machine, when it started up again the projects just kept going down the conveyor belt and piling up.

It's looking like 5 projects are 100% happening for BF...as for the others we shall see

MV

[Edmilson 7,466]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

It's looking like 5 projects are 100% happening for BF...as for the others we shall see

Well, 5 out of 8 possible projects only for this year's BF is still a great number considering he's saying approvals are taking so long this year. 

 

OTOH, if the 3 projects that may not happen this year are the most popular ones (like, say, Elfman's Spider-Man 2, something from the Bond series or a huge Williams, Horner or Goldsmith grail) while the 5 left are the more niche stuff (like a Richard Band score for a forgotten direct-to-video low budget horror movie), then it'll be bad not just for the fans but also for LLL itself. Believe me, I know how important the Black Friday is for companies that sell stuff.

[Jay 37,369]

2 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

Believe me, I know how important the Black Friday is for companies that sell stuff.

 

What does this mean? 

[Faleel 5,355]

2 minutes ago, Jay said:

 

What does this mean? 

Selling = Making money = good

Not selling = not making money = bad

[Edmilson 7,466]

I just said that the BF is an important commercial date, that's all. And, in LLL's case, this might be even more true. Which is why it will not be good for them if this year's BF batch doesn't include at least two or three heavy-hitters.

[Holko 9,529]

Like 2020?

[Richard Penna 3,694]

They could scrap approvals and just put a session dump on disc with blank inserts. Problemo solved  

[Jay 37,369]

The long approval process is really about the artwork and liner notes (and all the legalese lines), not the music.