The La-La Land Black Friday 2023 thread

[A. A. Ron 1,742]

15 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said:

They said last year that Spider-Man 2 & 3 were pretty much off limits, so that would be an incredible surprise if they're ever able to do either of them! 

 

I remember this too, but can't for the life of me find the post.

[Edmilson 7,466]

Maybe it's a Mandela effect?

[A. A. Ron 1,742]

Whatever lets us hold onto our optimism!

 

Unrelated thought: Maybe one of the the upcoming two discers is a sixth volume of Goldsmith at Fox.

[Brando 1,864]

I did see someone make a suggestion that for Spider-Man 2 they could do just Elfmans score, then if they can get around to expanding Spider-Man 3, they could include the extra cues recorded for Spider-Man 2 in the bonus section there. That could work I think.

[Stark 316]

I’ve thought that same idea, but it’s just opening the door even further for Elfman to block a whole SM3 release on us.

[filmmusic 1,834]

I wonder if The Rare Breed that has been mentioned, would be Black Friday material.

[Jurassic Shark 12,079]

It would, but in a very limited release. 

[OneBuckFilms 323]

Pie in the sky wish list titles:

 

Men In Black

Mask of Zorro

Spiderman 2

Battle Beyond the Stars

Hook revamp

Casino Royale

 

[Manakin Skywalker 4,897]

5 hours ago, A. A. Ron said:

I remember this too, but can't for the life of me find the post.

 

I checked yesterday too and couldn't find anything 

 

Either it was removed, or we both happened to misinterpret another post. This is the only thing I could find:

 

[MedigoScan 324]

All this talk just makes me imagine how nightmare-ish a release for Avengers 2 would be.

 

[Damien F 1,742]

12 hours ago, Smaug The Iron said:

I guess

Spider-Man 2

Godfather 2 

Moonraker

One Williams titel (I hope Hook or The Terminal)

One or both of the Universal Studios score from the 60s. 

Migration

 

 

I'd love Moonraker too. It is one of the Bond scores for which I most want an expended release. But my understanding is that the master tapes were lost in France sometime after the score was recorded there.

[Trope 527]

I’m hoping for Hook or Catch Me If You Can or The Terminal or Deep Impact or The Mask of Zorro or The Perfect Storm or Bicentennial Man or Enemy at the Gates or Iris or A Beautiful Mind or Jurassic Park III or The Godfather Part 2 or Gladiator. Oh, and complete versions of Indiana Jones and Star Wars (of course).

[LB Makes Stuff 240]

Lots of “or”s

[DangerMotif 1,038]

The 3-CD is Lorne Balfe Dead Reckoning Part 2: Early Sketches and themes.

[Tallguy 3,398]

2 hours ago, Damien F said:

 

I'd love Moonraker too. It is one of the Bond scores for which I most want an expended release. But my understanding is that the master tapes were lost in France sometime after the score was recorded there.

 

Pretty sure that has been debunked.

[Damien F 1,742]

Cool, I didn't know that.

[Edmilson 7,466]

3 hours ago, Trope said:

Deep Impact or The Mask of Zorro or The Perfect Storm or Bicentennial Man or Enemy at the Gates or Iris or A Beautiful Mind

Yes! More late 90s/early 2000s Horner expansions please!

[Trope 527]

1 hour ago, LB Makes Stuff said:

Lots of “or”s

I’m casting a wide net. Surely at least one of the releases will be a fish I’m after!

[pete 907]

4 hours ago, Trope said:

Deep Impact or The Mask of Zorro or The Perfect Storm or Bicentennial Man 

 

I was listendning to Deep Impact and Bicentennial Man just recently. I'd love expansions of both. I just love Horner in the lush emoational mode. Ha, the more similar the better!

I especially adore Bicentennial Man. And I just started reading a Deep Impactish novel: The Effort by Claire Holroyde, so the Deep Impact score is perfect background music for reading. 

[Naïve Old Fart 9,537]

When do we get those picture clues, or have we got them already?

[Jay 37,369]

Picture clues are a thing Varese does, not La La Land. 

[Mr Keith Hicks 14]

I can 100% confirm the Moonraker tapes are not lost this is just a myth, let’s hope Moonraker expanded score comes to light very soon 🙏🙏

[JTN 2,030]

2 hours ago, Jay said:

Picture clues are a thing Varese does, not La La Land. 

Yeah, apparently LLL does price clues. Very 2023. 

[Naïve Old Fart 9,537]

55 minutes ago, Mr Keith Hicks said:

I can 100% confirm the Moonraker tapes are not lost this is just a myth, let’s hope Moonraker expanded score comes to light very soon 🙏🙏

 

How do you know this?

Explanation. Now.

[Mr Keith Hicks 14]

See James Bond Music page on Facebook on 2nd April 2021 :-
 

The Moonraker myth started when the expanded CDs came out in 2003 and Lukas addressed the question of why Moonraker wasn't included.

Basically tapes for Moonraker were not stored with the other tapes they were working with and there was no budget to go looking. Besides, the 5 scores to be expanded had already been determined.

It got misquoted into the Moonraker tapes being lost and that became urban myth.

People even started saying the tapes had been dumped by Davout, the Paris studio where Moonraker was recorded.

However, these myths were based on a number of false presuppositions.

First, for a major movie like Moonraker there is never just one set of tapes. There's just too much riding on it. It's very likely that both a master and backup copy were taken at the recording session, and then there may be other duplicates created for other purposes.

Second, in order to get music into a film's soundtrack, you have to do more than just record it. You have to dub it. The dubbing happened in England. Jon's book The Music of James Bond confirms tapes were shipped to England for this purpose. There would have been no reason to send them back to Paris, since Davout is a recording facility, not a storage facility.

Now, of course none of this proves the opposite, that there are accessible tapes, but several people who would know have assured us there are Moonraker tapes and they have been preserved digitally.

So, basically, a misquotation plus some false assumptions and Chinese whispers equals urban myth.

[Tom Guernsey 2,286]

An excellent summary from @Mr Keith Hicks but I can understand why it’s such a plausible rumour given the number of more recent, big budget, high profile films that have lacked readily accessible first generation masters of their scores due to fire/being dumped/studio neglect. Something of an indictment on certain studios that such a rumour seems so believable. 

[Naïve Old Fart 9,537]

4 hours ago, Mr Keith Hicks said:

So, basically, a misquotation plus some false assumptions and Chinese whispers equals urban myth.

 

A bit like Bob Holness, and "Baker Street" 

 

There's hope yet.

[Jay 37,369]

On 03/11/2023 at 5:26 PM, Bellosh said:

$39.98 is a 3 CD set right?

 

Here is a complete list of everything LLL has released at that price point:

 

1608 Spider-man (3-CD)

1576 Fiddler on the Roof (3-CD)

1566 The Time Tunnel Vol 2 (3-CD)

1353reissue A.I. Artificial Intelligence (3-CD) {this is the 2021 reissue, the 2015 original version was $34.98)

1559 The Time Tunnel Vol 1 (3-CD)

1382reissue The X-Files Vol 1 (4-CD) {this is the 2016 reissue, the 2011 original version was $49.98)

1473B Die-Hard 30th Anniversary Remastered Limited Edition (3-CD)

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433]

New bet (which I think everybody would love):

 

PROJECT 1 - $39.98 - The Time Tunnel, vol. 3 (with one Williams Bumper)
PROJECT 2 - $29.98 - Mission: Impossible Dead Reckoning, part. One: The Balfe's rejected score
PROJECT 3 - $29.98 - Ghosted (Expanded)
PROJECT 4 - $29.98 - D&D: Honor of the Thieves (Expanded)
PROJECT 5 - $21.98 - Mission: Impossible Dead Reckoning, part. One: Balfe's Holiday Special
PROJECT 6 - $21.98 - Mission: Impossible Dead Reckoning, part. One: Source Music and Sketches from the Composer's Vault
PROJECT 7 - $16.98 - Gran Turismo

[1977 1,743]

7 hours ago, JTW said:

Yeah, apparently LLL does price clues. Very 2023. 

 

I miss LLL's monkey cartoon clues

[JTN 2,030]

43 minutes ago, JTWfan77 said:

 

I miss LLL's monkey cartoon clues

What’s that?

[Faleel 5,354]

14 minutes ago, JTW said:

What’s that?

MV (?) used to have an avatar (?) of a monkey drawing, that hinted at certain releases.

[Jurassic Shark 12,079]

Sounds like monkey business to me.

[Ollie 1,059]

11 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

 

How do you know this?

Explanation. Now.

 

Also LLL had planned to release Mooraker. See this thread.

 

 

 

 

 

[Tallguy 3,398]

Top Gun AND Licence to Kill?

[Brundlefly 2,385]

The president comment by MM is certainly alluding to JFK.

[MedigoScan 324]

6 hours ago, Raiders of the SoundtrArk said:

New bet (which I think everybody would love):
PROJECT 4 - $29.98 - D&D: Honor of the Thieves (Expanded)

 

You joke, but I am still annoyed that they didnt release the funnest track from that movie and instead wasted 2 albums on Music Inspired By the Movie

What is this? the 80s?

[A. A. Ron 1,742]

7 hours ago, Brundlefly said:

The president comment by MM is certainly alluding to JFK.

I mean that’s probably more likely than Nixon or Lincoln, but those scores exist too y’know!

[DangerMotif 1,038]

7 hours ago, Brundlefly said:

The president comment by MM is certainly alluding to JFK.

Where is the comment he made?

[StarFox 28]

Any rumors about John Williams' The Patriot?

 

That'd be a nice 2-CD set

[JTN 2,030]

I’ve always wondered why labels wouldn’t reveal their titles beforehand? It would only elevate the level of anticipation on behalf of the fans.
“A 6-CD John Williams Star Wars Collection is coming this Black Friday!” We would be like Keanu: “Noo way!!” And LLL would be like Mr. Miyagi: “Hehehe…”

If I knew that a SW or an Indy box set was coming, I would already stop eating.

[Jurassic Shark 12,079]

1 hour ago, StarFox said:

Any rumors about John Williams' The Patriot?

 

That'd be a nice 2-CD set

 

I hear it's not coming.

[JTN 2,030]

4 hours ago, DangerMotif said:

Where is the comment he made?

“Even President Biden wants a Star Wars Expanded Box Set.”

 

[Richard Penna 3,694]

27 minutes ago, JTW said:

I’ve always wondered why labels wouldn’t reveal their titles beforehand?

 

I believe the main reason is that titles can fall through at any time, given studio shenanigans. Hence if they announced a title was coming and then something happened that made them unable to complete it, they'd get a lot of disappointed customers.

 

I would ponder why there would't be some sort of legally binding thing at some point where the studio can't just row back and cancel a project, but maybe stuff like liners and artwork are done later in the process, and someone has to do the final signoff?

[Tallguy 3,398]

The Star Trek box was announced in... August? Earlier? I was about to say that was not a BF title but then I didn't remember if it was or not.

 

Which was good because that was certainly not an impulse purchase for me.

[JTN 2,030]

1 hour ago, Richard Penna said:

I believe the main reason is that titles can fall through at any time, given studio shenanigans.

I know, but I’m thinking the same time they announced the exact number of their titles and even their prices. It’s still ahead of the release date, the programs are already at the manufacturing facility, and it’s highly unlikely that anything will change at this point. Announcing the title names would only elevate fan expectations. Imho.

[Richard Penna 3,694]

Yes, by now they're heading into manufacture for these titles. But one of the labels (might've been Intrada) said at one point that sometimes when they revealed stuff early, they started getting e-mails from people asking to pre-order. It probably boils down to: if they start revealing solid details earlier and earlier, it starts to turn into a scheduling mess and probably customer e-mailing mess when someone gets their grail and decides to try to purchase it early.

[JTN 2,030]

2 hours ago, Richard Penna said:

sometimes when they revealed stuff early, they started getting e-mails from people asking to pre-order.

People really do that? :-) 

[1977 1,743]

1 hour ago, JTW said:

People really do that? :-) 

 

Well Intrada previously also said that people would e-mail them about sold out titles (as in completely sold out never to return) that were on their site clearly marked as SOLD OUT, so they ended up having to remove them.

[BrotherSound 2,242]

7 hours ago, StarFox said:

Any rumors about John Williams' The Patriot?

 

That'd be a nice 2-CD set

The original soundtrack of The Patriot was released on Hollywood Records, owned by Disney, which hasn’t worked with La-La Land to date. Much likelier to be an Intrada release.

 

But yes, it’d make for a fantastic 2-CD set!