Jay 37,378 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Absolutely they do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Vinyl Sales Surpass CD Revenue, First Time Since 1980s bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 People obviously love music that sounds worn out, crackly and hissy after only a few listens. How frickin' weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, PuhgreÞiviÞm said: People obviously love music that sounds worn out, crackly and hissy after only a few listens. How frickin' weird. What kind of Vinyls are you listening to? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, TSMefford said: What kind of Vinyls are you listening to? Lol Yours don't wear out? You must have blown $20,000 on this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, PuhgreÞiviÞm said: Yours don't wear out? You must have blown $20,000 on this! Lol. Nope. Pretty standard record player. Nothing expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 LPs sound like shit compared to CDs. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 hour ago, PuhgreÞiviÞm said: LPs sound like shit compared to CDs. Lol. Just to be clear, I'm not a vinyl enthusiast by any means. I prefer CDs as well. That being said, just because I prefer CDs doesn't mean I have to hate vinyls. I dig them as well. They don't sound bad at all. No one is listening to Vinyls for super mega clarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Well, there are thousands of CD titles in the used bins, and hundreds of titles in my collection. If, they stop making them.... The Dude will abide.... 5 hours ago, TSMefford said: Lol. Just to be clear, I'm not a vinyl enthusiast by any means. I prefer CDs as well. That being said, just because I prefer CDs doesn't mean I have to hate vinyls. I dig them as well. They don't sound bad at all. No one is listening to Vinyls for super mega clarity. PERHAPS but..... Some think they sound better. They do sound DIFFERENT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 hour ago, bruce marshall said: PERHAPS but..... Some think they sound better. They do sound DIFFERENT! Yeah I mean it just depends on what people mean by "better". It's a subjective term so they could be referring to any number of things. For me, the few times I've listened to Vinyl it tends to sound a bit warmer and somehow feels a bit more lively. Honestly if I'm playing music out loud while doing things around the house, then Vinyl is a fun thing to put on. I don't know of anyone that listens to Vinyl for superior sound quality necessarily, but I assume there are those kinds of people. CD certainly has clarity and crispness down. At the end of the day, I don't care what anyone prefers. Nothing wrong with people liking Vinyl or people liking CDs or liking VHS tapes. Whatever floats your boat. Has no effect on me whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 It was vinyl that killed the beast. It's like I'm living in some bizarre alternate earth where people went crazy for vinyl. In my world, vinyl was banned in 2016 for starting world war 3. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 5 hours ago, TSMefford said: I don't know of anyone that listens to Vinyl for superior sound quality necessarily ... It's actually a reaction to the iPhone generation (the fast life), where the music carrier has become invisible, unimportant, reducing music to something that only belongs in the background while doing something else. Vinyl slows things down and brings back the whole experience, the ritual, the respect. bruce marshall and TSMefford 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Yes it's not fair to say that CDs are dying primarily because of vinyl - CDs are dying primarily because of digital internet distribution (individual sales, subscription streaming, ad-supported streaming). Vinyl sales increasing is just sort of an extra little push out the door. Vinyl and CD sales combined are still a tiny sliver of all music sales, which are primarily digital internet distribution. TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,396 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 I don't think the CD will disappear, like the vinyl never disappeared when CD came out. It'll just become "more niche" than it already is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 It might be more dire than that - why bother releasing anything on a format that won't turn a profit. I don't want to admit it, but it will die soon. Hipsters brought vinyl back as a sort of fashion accessory and a throwback to an older time, like some counter-culture bullshit. Now you can market vinyl as something special that's not a CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,396 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Some people will always buy CDs, and it's not like it costs a lot to create CDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 What I'm saying is in the future no music will be released on cd, definitely not something like soundtracks. The only cds you'll be able to buy will be those made before the extinction event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,396 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 When do you predict it'll happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GerateWohl 4,383 Posted September 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2020 Probably, older people like me turn back to vinyl when they realize, they are not able to read the tiny lettered lyrics and credits in the small CD booklets, but they can read it from the LP sleeve still without glasses. At least I sometimes think, I am almost there. TSMefford, Chewy, Edmilson and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 " counter culture bullshit"?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 9 hours ago, Chewy said: When do you predict it'll happen? Within the next decade. Can totally see film scores being released digital only, with a few limited releases on vinyl and cassette tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BryonDavis 172 Posted September 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2020 13 hours ago, Chewy said: Some people will always buy CDs, and it's not like it costs a lot to create CDs. True but if the plants go away like they did when vinyl declined it will increase the price to manufacture. That is happening now. 13 hours ago, Arpy said: What I'm saying is in the future no music will be released on cd, definitely not something like soundtracks. The only cds you'll be able to buy will be those made before the extinction event. I firmly believe there will always be releases on CD. For small labels its a better cost risk than the bigger labels where the risk is higher due to the need to sell more. Look at dvd labels like Arrow or Shout! That is a snapshot of where the Cd can go. bruce marshall, Arpy, Chewy and 3 others 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 I hope so - I don't want to see the format go@BryonDavis Most of my purchases have been through Varese, LLL, Intrada, Quartet etc. There's not one moment where I'm not thankful for these labels putting out CD releases of scores. BryonDavis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 It's whenever players are no longer manufactured that worries me. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 I thought it was the obvious consensus that digital downloads are killing CDs, they're responsible. Separately, hipsters (who would go onto influence their more casually inclined friends) are behind the renaissance in vinyl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryonDavis 172 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 22 minutes ago, Quintus said: I thought it was the obvious consensus that digital downloads are killing CDs, they're responsible. Separately, hipsters (who would go onto influence their more casually inclined friends) are behind the renaissance in vinyl. Streaming is killing downloads and CDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 What's the difference? It all downloads from the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Yes, semantics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryonDavis 172 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 9 hours ago, PuhgreÞiviÞm said: What's the difference? It all downloads from the internet. A download is purchased. A stream is a subscription. There is a difference. The download business is dying too. Nobody talks about that. Streaming is like a lease. You pay monthly to listen to as much music as you want. When somebody says downloads I assume they are talking about paid individual purchases. The decline of the CD has a lot to do with streaming. 9 hours ago, Quintus said: Yes, semantics. Not in breakdowns of business revenue. Streaming is not downloads. Yes, services let you download files to play them without internet service but in the end you do not own those streams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 9,532 Posted September 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2020 31 minutes ago, BryonDavis said: You pay monthly to listen to as much music as you want. *as much as the service has licence to and as much as they please to allow you to listen to in your specific region at the moment. MikeH, enderdrag64 and Bayesian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryonDavis 172 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 46 minutes ago, Holko said: *as much as the service has licence to and as much as they please to allow you to listen to in your specific region at the moment. Fair point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 It all comes from the internet. That's downloading as far as I'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 12 minutes ago, PuhgreÞiviÞm said: It all comes from the internet. That's downloading as far as I'm concerned. If you are dependent on a satellite orbiting Earth for your music.... You're SOL. 6 hours ago, Holko said: *as much as the service has licence to and as much as they please to allow you to listen to in your specific region at the moment. Isn't that what NETFLIX is? Without DVD or CD we can't really decide for ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 They want you dependent on having an internet connection to entertain yourself. And if it drops out, as it often does, too bad, "we've got your money". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryonDavis 172 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 4 hours ago, PuhgreÞiviÞm said: It all comes from the internet. That's downloading as far as I'm concerned. But its not but ok. Downloads are dying. Streaming is thriving. In the breakdowns of the business there is physical, paid downloads then various streaming on demand. Just sharing a fact. 3 hours ago, PuhgreÞiviÞm said: They want you dependent on having an internet connection to entertain yourself. And if it drops out, as it often does, too bad, "we've got your money". True. That's why its streaming. If the internet dies I still have my paid downloads and physical media to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 It freakin' downloads off the internet and then it's viewable/listenable on my telephone or computer ffs! Whatever trendy buzzword they want to call it, it still loads downward from the internet, sheesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryonDavis 172 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 hour ago, PuhgreÞiviÞm said: It freakin' downloads off the internet and then it's viewable/listenable on my telephone or computer ffs! Whatever trendy buzzword they want to call it, it still loads downward from the internet, sheesh. It's not a trendy buzzword. It's how we pay royalties and mechanicals. Whatever floats your boat dude but if you refer to it as a download as far as I'm concerned you are talking about paid downloads NOT subscription services. We cool...bye. Bayesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 It's downloading, not uploading! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 I think Stallman was right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 The only people still buying CDs are mostly on this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 I was taught to not put my fingers directly on the vinyl! Only the edges! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 That's even true for CDs. I guess Paul is getting old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said: The only people still buying CDs are mostly on this site. You're not wrong 2 minutes ago, AC1 said: That's even true for CDs. I guess Paul is getting old. You can touch the flat part of a CD all you want. There's a protective coating over the data. On a record, the surface IS the data Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Both can be damaged by scratches. 3 minutes ago, AC1 said: That's even true for CDs. I guess Paul is getting old. It's probably just a John Lennon album. thx99 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jay said: You can touch the flat part of a CD all you want. There's a protective coating over the data. On a record, the surface IS the data Fingerprints on CDs and DVDs can hinder proper playback. 5 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: It's probably just a John Lennon album. Or maybe his last album didn't sell all too well and he's got many copies left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, AC1 said: Fingerprints on CDs and DVDs can hinder proper playback. Sure, but you can wipe them off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, Jay said: Sure, but you can wipe them off Which results in fine scratches. Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 >shrug< I've never had any problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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