Pieter Boelen 740 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Every few days I will post a thread on a random score from my collection that we can discuss and rate. I made a playlist on my computer with one track of each score I've got, so by using the random play option, I'll be able to post a truly random score each time. Hopefully this will allow us to discuss some scores that would otherwise never be discussed. Also we can record the rating so that we can create a full list of the ratings given to scores by JWFan.com.Today's score is Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark by John Williams. Are you familiar with it? What do you like about it? What don't you like about it? How do do you think it works in the film? What are your favourite tracks?So far JWFan has rated:See Soundtrack Ratings by JWFan.com.This web page contains the ratings from all my previous polls as well as those of Blumenkohl's.Final ratings are converted to a 1-10 rating for both rating systems so that they can be compared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 5 star score!Brilliantly constructed. does not have a single note, flourish or orchestration that does not need to be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Five stars for RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK, clearly. But I'd edit the title if you don't want an argument to blow up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted February 14, 2009 Author Share Posted February 14, 2009 5 stars from me too. Definite great score.Five stars for RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK, clearly. But I'd edit the title if you don't want an argument to blow up again.It's the same bloody film and the same bloody music. If people ARE going to complain about something, I sincerely hope they go and find something just a li'l bit more worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 You got the title wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 5 stars from me too. Definite great score.Five stars for RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK, clearly. But I'd edit the title if you don't want an argument to blow up again.It's the same bloody filmTechnically it isn't, as there's a couple of shots that are different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 I'm almost embarassed to state the obvious. 5 stars.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Then allow me to state a less obvious and more truthful opinion.3.5 stars.I listened to parts of it last night, and it doesn't grab me in the same way that ToD and Crusade do. Some amazing parts, but it also has some areas which quite frankly bore me. And Desert chase is in my lower echelon of Indy action cues, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 I continue to state the obvious. 5 stars. As Stefan above said this score does not have a wasted note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Five. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 5 stars, though I do not see why you have to use 'Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 this Doesnt exist, somebody fix the F*U*C*K*ing titlesuch disrespect to a great film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 5 stars.Duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 this Doesnt exist, somebody fix the F*U*C*K*ing titlesuch disrespect to a great film.Calm down. It's a damn title, and I use it to organise my playlist.Hmm, I appear to be the only person so far not to give 5 stars (except the usual 1 star troll). Either means I have yet to find its inner beauty or you're all a bunch of fanboys I hope it's the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 I don't think it really matters what the frak it is called. You guys knew what he was talking about anyway. >_>5 stars, didn't connect with me the way the others did, but I still know it's that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Yeah, but I deduct points for a lack of connection to parts of it. Otherwise I'd be giving 5 stars to music that isn't 5 stars as an experience for me - and isn't that the whole point of this poll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorean90 42 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 this Doesnt exist, somebody fix the F*U*C*K*ing titlesuch disrespect to a great film.Calm down. It's a damn title, and I use it to organise my playlist.Hmm, I appear to be the only person so far not to give 5 stars (except the usual 1 star troll). Either means I have yet to find its inner beauty or you're all a bunch of fanboys I hope it's the first.It's the first. Seriously, "Desert Chase" is one of the greatest action/chase cues ever written. It's a fantastic piece on its own, and it also just perfectly complements and enhances the scene it was written for. It's film scoring at its peak.I'm not sure what exactly is boring you, but I find that it has a terrific flow, the music is interesting and likeable...I mean, this is about as easy as voting on a score gets for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 I suppose. Already voted. I think the point of this poll is to vote what you thought it deserved ultimately than how it connects. I voted on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Seriously, "Desert Chase" is one of the greatest action/chase cues ever written. It's a fantastic piece on its own, and it also just perfectly complements and enhances the scene it was written for. It's film scoring at its peak."Airplane Fight" makes for a great prelude to the main chase as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 I clearly need to give Raiders another listen.But I've never found, for instance, much of the opening sequence (first few tracks) particularly interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 The whole Idol's Temple bit is mesmerizing. The scoring of the approach to the idol and subsequent theft and escape is utterly majestic and enthralling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 this Doesnt exist, somebody fix the F*U*C*K*ing titlesuch disrespect to a great film.Calm down. It's a damn title, and I use it to organise my playlist.Hmm, I appear to be the only person so far not to give 5 stars (except the usual 1 star troll). Either means I have yet to find its inner beauty or you're all a bunch of fanboys I hope it's the first.ok ricky in great britain.I'll show you the same respect that this movie was getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 I give it a Five-Star Rating, even though the Ark Theme keeps playing every ten seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissPadmé 17 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 5 stars, this is the big one for me, my absolute favourite John Williams score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 The whole Idol's Temple bit is mesmerizing. The scoring of the approach to the idol and subsequent theft and escape is utterly majestic and enthralling. Indeed. :29 to :34 in "Escape from the Idol Temple" gives me chills every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Raiders is a great score, nearly as great as Star Wars, Jaws, Superman, Close Encounters, and E.T. but not quite.Still its enough for a 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 YO MOMMA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Then allow me to state a less obvious and more truthful opinion.3.5 stars.I listened to parts of it last night, and it doesn't grab me in the same way that ToD and Crusade do. Some amazing parts, but it also has some areas which quite frankly bore me. And Desert chase is in my lower echelon of Indy action cues, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 In no universe could I ever say LC is better than Raiders score wise, and certainly not film wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 5 stars.Duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 4.5Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Superman vs Raiders?I can't decide.Oh hang on, I can. Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 In no universe could I ever say LC is better than Raiders score wise, and certainly not film wise.So you don't like Crusade much then?I'm listening to the full Desert Chase (the DCC one) now. It's a good track, but within Williams' cannon, there are many tracks I prefer over it - Quidditch Match, Jungle Chase, Belly, etc. I don't know what it is, but something about Desert Chase just doesn't grab me.Thing is, Williams' style has changed a lot in 40 years, and combined with the slightly aged recording sound, his older style doesn't always work for me. I'm just not as much of a JWFan as most here evidently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 In no universe could I ever say LC is better than Raiders score wise, and certainly not film wise.So you don't like Crusade much then?very, VERY old news.But i think you were just sarcastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Least Crusade is the second best Raiders score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 4.5Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted February 14, 2009 Author Share Posted February 14, 2009 Oh wow; thread title sensorship! NO: THREAD TITLE CORRECTNESS.Ricard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 4.5Neil In comparison to Star Trek: The Motion Picture, I assume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 It's totally a 5, even if it isn't my favorite of the three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 4.5Neil In comparison to Star Trek: The Motion Picture, I assume. There is no....hey, you set me up for that!Maybe it's residual burn out from last years onslaught of Indy stuff, but I was getting bored with the Raiders March last March when I saw Williams conduct it. I wasn't even into Raiders when I saw it last November with my sister back in NJ. All the hype and the new movie and then the box set have just left me with a less than great feeling about this movie and score. It's good, no doubt about that, but it's not Star Wars or Superman. Hearing them on XM the other night really drove home for me how much more I enjoy those scores as opposed to this one.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 5 stars.I can't even imagine what JW could have done better. It's perfect from beginning to end! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,043 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 5 stars. Easily. While there are a few passages of underscore that are not the most enthralling bits of music I've ever heard, the whole is an astonishing achievement. A triumvirate of amazing themes that are used and developed in brilliant ways. Loads of really enthralling action music. Quieter passages that are really genuinely creepy. It's pure vintage Williams, right up there with the Star Wars OT scores in many respects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 I agree with Neil that this score is not as good as at least the original Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 I like Last Crusade a bit more. So 4.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Oh wow; thread title sensorship! I wonder what rule it broke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Woods 555 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 GREATEST SCORE EVER!5 Stars!-Erik- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Bring on the complete scores in SACD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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