Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Watched that Hans Zimmer concert movie on Netflix tonight. I give it out of Mostly came across as shallow cheap novelties, especially in this setting. Interstellar was the definite highlight. Jurassic Shark and Bespin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Goldsmith homaging Korngold - a rather unusual point of departure for this composer, even more surprisingly for a movie about tennis players in Wimbledon that was barely released back in 1979 (that being of course a regular occurrence in JG's career). The rest is either fluffy romance stuff (great 70's theme) or bluesy regret (for Maximilian Schell) but it's the three pieces of orchestral splendor that stay with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle (Henry Jackman) It's frustrating because this is so close to being a really good score. It's enjoyable to listen to and there's a few good cues, but ultimately the main theme is pretty weak so it's all on a shaky melodic foundation. I definitely dig the sound and I hope Jackman gets to write more scores like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maglorfin 196 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Jerry Goldsmith - First Blood A classic, what else can I say. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 36 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle (Henry Jackman) It's frustrating because this is so close to being a really good score. It's enjoyable to listen to and there's a few good cues, but ultimately the main theme is pretty weak so it's all on a shaky melodic foundation. That's how I feel about most new scores written nowadays [though I must say 2017 has been unexpectedly good so far, with 2 good scores (Ready Player Won, Black Panther) and a great past "discovery" (Battle Royale)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 in light of the news, plucked Superman off the shelf. The Trip to Earth of late reminds me of Yoda's Theme (or should that be the other way round, one coming after the other) but as mentioned elsewhere, I remain firmly in love with "The Flying Sequence". My favourite scene when I saw the film as a child and a lovely theme. My work to convert my John Barry supporting father (who previously said he thought all JW's works was the same all over) is halfway there. Loaning him my Saving Private Ryan disc he's become quite enthused by Hymn to the Fallen, loved my Jaws discs and hopefully, by now, the Summon the Heroes disc I loaned. Looking back, my first introduction to Superman's music, albeit it slightly different, was my Dad's old MECO cassette with 'can you read my mind?' and Close Encounters with "goodbye...goodbye..." at the end of that track. Anyway. The Flying Sequence makes me doff a cap to someone who on the quiet is responsible for most of the greatest themes in movie history and still coming up with distinctive love themes to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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publicist 4,643 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 In preparation. A better - as in more fun to listen to - thriller score than 'Bourne', this one offers a ambiguous Barry-esque main theme (the Roy Budd-scored thrillers of the 70's also were like this, just on harpsichord) and some pretty ballsy swashbuckling brass ('Hog Chase Part 2'!). It's all very stylish, not very deep (fitting a paper-thin movie) and today probably marred a bit by the sometimes obnoxious synth/percussion overlays but that's part of the charm. Since in all the talk about 'Solo' there's so much praise for Williams' fluid writing i will say that this pretty fluid, too. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Super 8 by Michael Giacchino The Lost World: Jurassic Park by John Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,016 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Hellraiser Return to Oz The Core Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 A mini masterpiece: Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: A mini masterpiece: Although as glorious as it is, the piece is clearly temp tracked from James Newton Howard's The Postman score, but I too prefer Harry Gregson-Williams' take. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maglorfin 196 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Ferdinand by John Powell Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Rio by John Powell Flesh + Blood by Basil Poledouris Ice Age: Continental Drift by John Powell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ren 789 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 How To Train Your Dragon 1 & 2 by John Powell: I love this scores, both of them, and they are in my personal top of animated movies. I prefer the second one over the first, mainly because Dragon Racing and Battle of the Bewilderbeast. This two tracks are pure orchestral epicness and that's what I love most about these scores. But that's not saying I don't like the first one. Tracks like The Downed Dragon, Forbidden Friendship, Test Drive or Romantic Flight are fantastic, full of great themes and powerful orchestra. I cannot wait for the third one! Holko and Kasey Kockroach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 The first one has greater highlights, but I prefer the second one as a listening experience overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ren 789 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 That's what I think. The first one introduced all the themes and has some great tracks, but the second one is great overall (and I don't exactly know why but it's the one I listened to first). John Powell is one of the best composers to come out of Zimmer's school and I cannot wait to hear what he has created for Solo. I watched a clip with his score on YouTube and it sounded really great (with The Asteroid Field included) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Ferdinand by John Powell - First time listening to this. This is really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,016 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Starship Troopers Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Logan's Run Planet of the Apes Explorers - Jerrald King Goldsmith Naïve Old Fart and Sir Hilary Bray 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Now, that's a list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Fit for a king. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post publicist 4,643 Posted May 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2018 The Secret of NIMH - Jerry Goldsmith As it is my very first Goldsmith discovery, this impressionist fairy tale score will always hold a special place in my heart. Ironically it is rather atypical in style for JG, created within the short time span from the late 70's to the mid-80's when Goldsmith tried larger idioms - often with astonishing results - and especially played around with the french impressionism of Ravel, Debussy and Saint-Saëns. The draw was inevitable - beyond the often intense beauty and refined elegance, the main characteristic of music of these composers is a floating, feathery ambiguity, with emphasis on instrumental timbres creating a shimmering interplay of musical colors that are beautiful but elusive. Since Goldsmith was, next to Bernard Herrmann, the most ambiguous of composers in Hollywood, he must have felt a close connection but never before being asked to score Don Bluth's feverish animated feature there was such an obvious playground on which to reference works like Ravel's 'Daphnis & Chloe' or Debussy's 'La Mer'. Since the requirements of the movie called for several different elements of musical tapestry, not least of all a simple sing-along folksong for its heroine, the courageous field mouse Mrs. Brisby (it's a british story through and through), Goldsmith juggled wholly different idioms into what is probably not his most unified score, but one of the most beautiful and gratifying. Joining in are are a Prokovian dittie for a clumsy crow, harsh Stravinsky for a threat of rats and a wonderfully eloquent british theme for the nobility for a wise rat named Nicodemus (plus a handful of side motifs). While the stylistic breaks may come too abrupt for some - it is animation, after all - the most remarkable thing is how Goldsmith basically re-invented great music for animation in 1982 after a long drought of undistinguished Disney scores, that always treated their movies like kiddie stuff, whereas JG played it big and dramatic like for a huge feature film. There are unique show pieces for large orchestra and the Ambrosian Singers (The House Raising, The Story of NIMH) and impressively constructed nuggets like 'Step Inside my House' for the scary visit into the lair of a big owl. Note how often the lush Ravel/Debussy sound is the musical payoff after an onslaught of the abrasive modernisms. Though Goldsmith probably worked more by his intellect than wearing his heart on the sleeve - in these years, anyway - he still manages to wring out some unforgettable moments, be it the musical aping of the 'exploding' main title font or the proto-typical 'fantasy' music for a magic amulet rising from a swamp to finally save the day. James Horner sure listened to this before taking over the Bluth reigns - Goldsmith was initially asked to come back for 'An American Tail' but had to bow out, a decision he later regretted very much. Be that s it may, 'The Secret of NIMH' remains a special entry not only in the composer's oeuvre but also in inspiring others that came after into what musical potential even such kid's movies - considered unimportant back then - could offer for a composer willing to put everything into it. Kasey Kockroach, Sharkissimo and Marian Schedenig 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Yasunori Mitsuda, ACE, Kenji Hiramatsu, and Manami Kiyota - Xenoblade Chronicles 2 The first ~35 tracks of this are utterly amazing Yasunori Mitsuda & Nubuo Uematsu - Front Mission: Gun Hazard Classic. John Powell - Ferdinand (FYC) Super fun!!! Basil Poledouris - Starship Troopers (Varese complete) Wonderful! Love that action music! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 1 hour ago, publicist said: The Secret of NIMH - Jerry Goldsmith Here's how Goldsmith scores animation at his most dramatic... and then transitions to miracle music of Final Conflict proportions: publicist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 He was alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I watched Secret of NIMH and listened to the soundtrack recently. Great movie, but not as good as the book (which I read as a 4th grader). The score is one of Goldsmith's most truly magical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post publicist 4,643 Posted May 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2018 Love the colors, especially all the burning reds and oranges. For a 2015 replacement score, this surely is ace. But like with many animation Powells, when it gets loud it really gets loud with a capital !L!. I suffered through the movie on a flight and it was truly revolting in its hyper-kinetic attempt to translate a basically melancholy children's story into a 'Fast and the Furious' for kids with a short attention span. The two opening cues are a wonderful introduction - emphasizing the classical roots of the story with their droll introduction of the score's primary themes - followed by what is probably the best swashbuckling cue this album has to offer (Galleon Dog Fight) that bounces relentlessly with samba rhythms beneath the bold open-fifth adventure fanfare. Problem is, where do you go from there? As soon as we enter Neverland, the score struggles to find its footing, instead offering up less exciting variations of the same with increasing reliance on frenetic huffing and puffing, the conventional orchestra beefed up with percussions that are often called upon delivering something that can match the ADHS chaos onscreen. There are some breathers in between, though none of particular distinction - it's really an album that would be more effective shortened by at least 15 or 20 minutes so that you are gently guided through the storyline instead of being hauled off the tour bus every three minutes for another rollercoaster ride. The gentle 'Transfiguration' is maybe the best way to close the album after the fourth cue. crocodile, Loert and Kasey Kockroach 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 John Williams always and forever! - Checkmate (Fresh Sound Records) (BTW Superior to the previous releases) - Rhythm in Motion (Fresh Sound Records) (BTW Superior to the previous release) - TESB (New remastered set) - TPM (New remastered set) - The Music of America: John Williams (Compilation) - John Williams: The Great Composers (Varèse Sarabande, Compilation) - John Williams: A Life in Music (LSO) - Six decades of John Williams (Lockhart, BSO) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,016 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 The Sea Hawk by James Horner Karol Disco Stu and publicist 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Holko 9,526 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Homeward Bound II Just like the first one, this is all familiar, some passages directly bringing back some of my earliest memories. I didn't remember (or didn't care/notice back then) how fun, rousing, full orchestral workouts some of the old themes get in this one. But I still prefer the feel and textures of the first, the emotional connection is stronger to that one. I just realised this bloody movie might be one of the reasons I'm deathly afraid of housefires! It traumatised me at a young, susceptible age and I haven't been able to fully recover since! Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, Holko said: Homeward Bound II Just like the first one, this is all familiar, some passages directly bringing back some of my earliest memories. I didn't remember (or didn't care/notice back then) how fun, rousing, full orchestral workouts some of the old themes get in this one. But I still prefer the feel and textures of the first, the emotional connection is stronger to that one. Yes, it's a very enjoyable listen, but it doesn't have the emotional power of the first. But hey at least they steered away from the 90s cliche of scoring city life with lifeless-muzak-jazz-funk (lookin' atchoo banning back home) like I'm sure would have happened if someone like Randy Edelman (ever the stalwart 90s family movie composer) had scored these movies. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Deep by Fernando Velázquez. One of the better scores I've heard this year. Also checked out his two Zipi & Zape scores from 2013 & 2016 - those were great too. Knight of Ren 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ren 789 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Fernando Velazquez is one of my favorite composers. His Zipi & Zape scores are fantastic! And I also love Crimson Peak. Anyway, leading up to Solo I'm listening to several John Powell scores and I'm discovering really great stuff. Pan: I would say this is almost a perfect score, with a great album presentation that only would need some tracks to be deleted (apart from the songs, obviously) and would be perfect. Is a great theme-filled score with some truly beautiful moments (Origins Story or Transfiguration for example) and some action cues that are part of the very best of Powell (like Kidnapped/Dog Fight or Flying Ship Fight) Shrek: Powell collaborated in this one with Harry Gregson-Williams and it's a nice score. I love both main themes a lot, especially the apparitions of Fiona's theme in Fairytale and Transformation/The End, and the big heroic rendition of Shrek's theme in Ride The Dragon is also really great. My issue with this score is that maybe there is a bit too much of the usual mickey-mousing of this scores, which fits within the movie, but it's not really interesting out of it. BTW, what are some other great Powell scores? I haven't heard all of his scores and I'm wondering what do you think are his bests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, Knight of Ren said: BTW, what are some other great Powell scores? I haven't heard all of his scores and I'm wondering what do you think are his bests. Well, you have to check out his How To Train Your Dragon scores immediately. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Horton Hears a Who and Ferdinand. Also, phooey on you, I like mickey-mousing! Knight of Ren 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 You know who loved some freakin' mickey mousing? James Horner. I didn't realize just how much until I started creating isolated scores for his soundtracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Bruce Broughton did mickey-mousing better than anyone as far as non-Scott Bradley/Carl Stalling guys go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Oh yeah in terms of the OVER THE TOP ALL CAPS MICKEY MOUSING. But Horner rarely saw a punch thrown on screen he didn't want to punctuate with a quick glissando or a cymbal hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 45 minutes ago, Knight of Ren said: BTW, what are some other great Powell scores? I haven't heard all of his scores and I'm wondering what do you think are his bests. Mars Needs Moms is also a great score by Powell. I think it was his first or second follow-up to How to Train Your Dragon. Some very good thematic writing in that one. Knight of Ren 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,016 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 22 hours ago, publicist said: The Secret of NIMH - Jerry Goldsmith Beautiful score. However, I'm not a fan of the songs. I hope someday we will see a truly complete version of this. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, crocodile said: Beautiful score. However, I'm not a fan of the songs. I hope someday we will see a truly complete version of this. Karol I enjoy Paul Williams' unusual voice and its a beautiful melody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Pride and Prejudice by Dario Marianelli An absolutely beautiful score to one of my all time favorite movies. dtw42 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,349 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Knight of Ren said: Fernando Velazquez is one of my favorite composers. His Zipi & Zape scores are fantastic! And I also love Crimson Peak. Anyway, leading up to Solo I'm listening to several John Powell scores and I'm discovering really great stuff. Pan: I would say this is almost a perfect score, with a great album presentation that only would need some tracks to be deleted (apart from the songs, obviously) and would be perfect. Is a great theme-filled score with some truly beautiful moments (Origins Story or Transfiguration for example) and some action cues that are part of the very best of Powell (like Kidnapped/Dog Fight or Flying Ship Fight) Shrek: Powell collaborated in this one with Harry Gregson-Williams and it's a nice score. I love both main themes a lot, especially the apparitions of Fiona's theme in Fairytale and Transformation/The End, and the big heroic rendition of Shrek's theme in Ride The Dragon is also really great. My issue with this score is that maybe there is a bit too much of the usual mickey-mousing of this scores, which fits within the movie, but it's not really interesting out of it. BTW, what are some other great Powell scores? I haven't heard all of his scores and I'm wondering what do you think are his bests. They are co-written, but check out Chicken Run and Kung Fu Panda 1 and 2 (I like 2 a little better ATM) Knight of Ren 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,016 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 I enjoy Paul Williams' unusual voice and its a beautiful melody I almost always have a problem with songs based around main themes. They just seem musically redundant. The melodies already express those ideas perfectly. No need to plaster cheesy and sugary lyrics on top of it. Don't fancy going diabetic, thank you very much. 2 minutes ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: Pride and Prejudice by Dario Marianelli An absolutely beautiful score to one of my all time favorite movies. What about Atonement? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 1 minute ago, crocodile said: What about Atonement? Another way to go, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ren 789 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Chicken Run, Horton and Ferdinand. And I have already listened to both Dragons and Kung Fu Panda, but I will revisit them again. And it's not that I don't like mickey-mousing, it's that sometimes it's a bit excessive. But I think Williams uses that very often and I really like Williams is not that I have nothing against that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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