Romão 2,276 Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 If the rest of this re-recording matches the bits I've heard, we're in for a treat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 We have ways of making you talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,253 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 I'd really like to see someone record the Spartacus album that Goldsmith was slated to record. I don't see what's stopping Varese from finding someone else to helm that project, aside from the new release and perhaps a bit too strong attachment to Goldsmith.Logistics? And money. After all, Goldsmith wanted to do it for many years, and nothing became of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManofDestiny 72 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 May I ask how many hours left until it be announce? I can't wait to place my order if it is Conan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,145 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 cross ingersWHERE'S THE F IN INGERS?Maybe his fingers were crossed and he was unable to reach the F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManofDestiny 72 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 ingernouna member of western Finnish people formerly living in the Baltic province where Saint Petersburg was built [syn: Ingrian] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 http://www.pragueorchestras.com/conan.htm :spiny: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,276 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 As expected, the new release is Conan The Barbarianhttp://www.pragueorchestras.com/conan.htmIt also includes some music from Conan the Destroyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Woo hoo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,734 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Great news indeed! :spiny: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,522 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Why is the original version of the prologue included in the middle of disc 1 instead of the bonus tracks section? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 I'm not worthy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Samples at SAE: http://www.screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm/ID/14468/CONAN-THE-BARBARIAN-2CD/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,991 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Why is the original version of the prologue included in the middle of disc 1 instead of the bonus tracks section?Afer the pit fight sequence, there's a minute long cue underscoring his training, with a lovely version of the Anvil of Crom theme followed by the heavy drums as heard in the beginning of the film. This could be the original prologue moved to there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,734 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 This year is just overflowing with great stuff. My poor wallet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,522 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 I thought the City Of Prague had a reputation as being a bad orchestra. Have they gotten better over the years or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,069 Posted November 2, 2010 Author Share Posted November 2, 2010 Jason, they most definitely have.Their recordings of actual film scores, not compilations, are superb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,734 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 I thought the City Of Prague had a reputation as being a bad orchestra. Have they gotten better over the years or something?Their re-recordings have always had a good reputation and are indeed fine interpretations of classic film scores but their compilation albums range from quite good to awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 The sound clips are amazing, especially the choir in 'Orphans of Doom/The Awakening'. I see no mention of it being limited, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Well I guess the ONLY remaining score holy grails are the Williams ones now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Maybe to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,522 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 I wonder why there is such a gap in quality between the full score recordings and the compilation albums? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Yea, I always thought the Prague Orchestra was no good, but these sound clips are indeed, amazing. I will definitely pick this up. Maybe they put more care into the re-recordings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,069 Posted November 2, 2010 Author Share Posted November 2, 2010 Well I think most of the bad recordings were done many years ago. Plus I believe they do spend more time on the film recordings compared to the compilation recordings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,810 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 F*** yes!(there you have your 'F' :spiny:yes, they are doing so many re-recordings and scores that they are a good orchestra now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 I wonder why there is such a gap in quality between the full score recordings and the compilation albums?Mostly because the compilation albums were recorded years ago. They've gotten better, either through practice or (more likely) through new musicians. Recordings like El Cid and Lawrence of Arabia are just amazing. None of that blocky, coarse sound that shows up on compilations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 154 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Exactly. The Guns of Navarone didn't sound bad at all, either!I'm not that interested in this one, so I'll be picking up The Alamo instead I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 I watched that bit of the sessions that Chris from SAE posted on FSM. I gotta say for a re-recording that's pretty damn impressive. I think I'll actually order this score and give it a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 All I know is that their compilation of Pirates Of The Caribbean is fucking terrible. Their rerecording of The Alamo is good, but I definitely kept my Tiomkin OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 154 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Pirates Of The Caribbean is fucking terrible.Well put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Hay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 I love their recording of El Cid and expect nothing less with Conan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 I wanted to make this a multi-Tadlow day, but I restrained myself and only bought Conan from SAE, because it sounds like they have it in stock to ship soon. MM or Tadlow would take a bit longer.While I have 60+ albums in limbo to rip and tag, this one would definitely move to the front of the class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,069 Posted November 2, 2010 Author Share Posted November 2, 2010 As far as the Nic Raine conducted Prague recordings go I would recommend not just the Tadlow/Prometheus releases but also several of the Silva John Barry recordings:Raise The TitanicThe Lion In WinterThe Last ValleyRobin And Marian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,253 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Mostly because the compilation albums were recorded years ago. They've gotten better, either through practice or (more likely) through new musicians. Recordings like El Cid and Lawrence of Arabia are just amazing. None of that blocky, coarse sound that shows up on compilations.I suspect they're getting more rehearsal time for these "big" re-recordings, too.Ordered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,810 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 im puzzled for this track title: Las Cantigas de Santa Maria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 im puzzled for this track title: Las Cantigas de Santa MariaNot sure, but the film was filmed in Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,734 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 im puzzled for this track title: Las Cantigas de Santa MariaPerhaps Poledouris used the cantigas or a cantiga as a basis for that piece?I just realized that Rózsa used the song melody in the example soundclip of the Wikipedia page (Cantiga 100, "Santa Maria, strela do dia") in his score for El Cid. Not a huge shock as Rózsa did extensive research on these very same cantigas but still it was surprising to find the exact melody here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 216 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Rozsa made extensive use of the Cantigas for El Cid, I believe nearly 10 cantigas are used, if I remember correctly.The cantigas themselves are explained in the wiki article - I assume Poledouris must have adapted some as well, based on the track title.It's interesting to see how many new people are being introduced to Tadlow's rerecordings through this release! Even more interesting to see that some people still have a negative outlook on City of Prague - El Cid drowned the doubts of most people way back in 2008! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Ordered. I love my wife eternally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 im puzzled for this track title: Las Cantigas de Santa MariaPer this site:http://conancompletist.forumactif.com/conan-the-barbarian-f3/music-of-the-giant-snake-scene-t726-20.htm"This is an traditional track from Galicia and it is called "Cantiga 166" also known as "Como Poden (per sas culpas)". The version as heard in the movie is an original recording by "The Clememcic Consort" produced in 1976. Mr Poledouris only added the female choir to the existing recording. I think that's the reason why it is not on the Soundtrack Album. Copyright permission only for the movie and not for the Soundtrack Album.""Como poden" begins at 1:47 in this sound file on YouTube, which represents a low quality film rip of what we'll get on the Tadlow/Prometheus re-recording. Although what sounds similar to the sample at SAE's site doesn't start until about 4:40 or so on the YouTube video. God that sounds terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 As far as the Nic Raine conducted Prague recordings go I would recommend not just the Tadlow/Prometheus releases but also several of the Silva John Barry recordings:Raise The TitanicThe Lion In WinterThe Last ValleyRobin And MarianThat's all well and good but I can't ever forgive The Prague Phil for the simple fact that their horrendous Raiders March performance is the version most listened to on YouTube, PLUS it has also become the good-to-go recording for all miscellaneous tv appearances etc.Not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 As far as the Nic Raine conducted Prague recordings go I would recommend not just the Tadlow/Prometheus releases but also several of the Silva John Barry recordings:Raise The TitanicThe Lion In WinterThe Last ValleyRobin And MarianThat's all well and good but I can't ever forgive The Prague Phil for the simple fact that their horrendous Raiders March performance is the version most listened to on YouTube, PLUS it has also become the good-to-go recording for all miscellaneous tv appearances etc.Not good.Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maglorfin 196 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 This year is just overflowing with great stuff. My poor wallet!Indeed! But I'm getting this nonetheless! It's an absolute must-have. What a thrill the recording sessions must have been for all those involved, especially musicians ... I'd die to play percussion on this one someday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,145 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 That's all well and good but I can't ever forgive The Prague Phil for the simple fact that their horrendous Raiders March performance is the version most listened to on YouTube, PLUS it has also become the good-to-go recording for all miscellaneous tv appearances etc.Not good.Yes, my brother went and purchased that awful recording off iTunes when he knew I had good recordings of the Raiders March on multiple discs. I don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 It's because we're a minority and most people really don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 154 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 As far as the Nic Raine conducted Prague recordings go I would recommend not just the Tadlow/Prometheus releases but also several of the Silva John Barry recordings:Raise The TitanicThe Lion In WinterThe Last ValleyRobin And MarianThat's all well and good but I can't ever forgive The Prague Phil for the simple fact that their horrendous Raiders March performance is the version most listened to on YouTube, PLUS it has also become the good-to-go recording for all miscellaneous tv appearances etc.Not good.But with the money they make from that licensing to TV and other things, they get away with producing these kind of recordings like El Cid and Conan.Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHOENIX 34 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 It was re-prepared for this concert (I have the scores) . Greg McRichie's original orchestrations do survive (or rather all those used in this concert)I have no idea. I don't know what exists of Poledouris' material as far as sketches and actual composer sheets. I can't remember if he had to reconstruct for the Ubeda concert or if he used his original sketches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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