Popular Post ragoz350 450 Posted July 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2021 Anyway, I decided to collect all cues from Battle of Naboo sequence in one video. In fact, there is nothing new here, just wondering how it looks and sounds all together. All unrecorded/unreleased fragments are my mockups. Many thanks to @Permanent Waves for the restore videos (especially for Take To Your Ships, I wouldn't have guessed how to sync it). Important notes: The most unclear sync of the second half of the 6M4 The Big Army cue (the appearance of Darth Maul), this scene has clearly been heavily reworked. I had to skip the beginning of the duel, because it's not clear what should be between the 6M4 and 6M5 cues. I also used 6M11 End Of Darth Maul cue, which is a new ending for the 6M10 cue, and was already written for the final cut. The earlier version lacked a short scene with the gungans, and the Maul's death underscores in much more optimistic way. 6M1 The Armies Face-Off (-2:06) 6M1X Randy's Forest Mist (0:29-0:50) 6M2 Lazer Fight (2:08-3:15) 6M3 Take To Your Ships (3:15-4:46) 6M4 The Big Army (4:46-7:06) 6M5 Droid Battle (7:11-9:42) 6M6 Up The Wire (9:42-10:21) 6M7 The Great Dual (10:21-13:14) 6M8-9 Qui-Gon's Noble End (13:14-15:34) 6M10 Blowups And The Death Of Darth Maul (15:40-17:10, w/o original ending) 6M11N End Of Darth Maul (17:09-end) Btw, I just realized that the 6M1 insert (Randy's Forest Mist) appears to have been written for a different version of the cue (which sounds in the movie), but I don't know the truth. CGCJ, Chewy, BrotherSound and 8 others 7 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,894 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Honestly I feel this cut works better... Why George felt the need to rearrange everything at the last minute I have no clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 8 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said: Honestly I feel this cut works better... Why George felt the need to rearrange everything at the last minute I have no clue. To diminish the effects of it. BTW please please please tell me all of this was recorded! JW must have scored this early cut all the way, George must've watched a "final" cut all scored and everything before deciding to hack it up, we have so much of it, surely he didn't tell JW to stop before he could record the parts we only have mockups of, surely he would've asked for a rescore then instead of hacking and tracking all over, right, RIGHT, RIGHT??? crumbs and Manakin Skywalker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Manakin Skywalker 4,894 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Holko said: To diminish the effects of it. BTW please please please tell me all of this was recorded! JW must have scored this early cut all the way, George must've watched a "final" cut all scored and everything before deciding to hack it up, we have so much of it, surely he didn't tell JW to stop before he could record the parts we only have mockups of, surely he would've asked for a rescore then instead of hacking and tracking all over, right, RIGHT, RIGHT??? Unfortunately nope. The lengths on the cue sheet match up with everything that we already have. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 526 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Manakin Skywalker said: Unfortunately nope. The lengths on the cue sheet match up with everything that we already have. And the cuts are all notated in the score. It's possible (though unlikely) that some of it may have been rehearsed and recorded. Manakin Skywalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,894 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Jim Ware said: And the cuts are all notated in the score. It's possible (though unlikely) that some of it may have been rehearsed and recorded. I sure hope so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Mike said the tape was running constantly on HP1, capturing every take and all the session chatter, as a backup that went unused in favour of the digital. Maybe if they did the same on TPM... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,894 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 All depends on if those cuts happened before they started recording, or during the sessions. Hopefully those decisions were made after they at least did some practice takes. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 And hopefully JW won't nix them for being just practice takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,350 Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 Hopefully he has a chance to not nix them. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 It's entirely possible that at least some of those were recorded. After all, he did re-record the entirety of the End Credits from the Throne Room Suite which was never used, and the 'original' version of Take To Your Ships (fragments of which can be heard in the video games) Jim Ware 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,894 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 And then there's "Up the Wire" which is chopped in half and given a new ending... that could've easily been dictated at the podium though, but there's no way to know for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Our only hope lies in the possibility that rehearsal takes were recorded MrJosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jay said: Our only hope lies in the possibility that rehearsal takes were recorded I'm still holding out hope for the earliest version of The Scavenger from TFA being recorded, given the surplus of sessions that film had. Wouldn't it be amazing if one day we could hire a private orchestra and record all these abandoned, unrecorded cues?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 You can do that now! https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-99-orchestra-an-orchestra-for-everyone#/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, crumbs said: Wouldn't it be amazing if one day we could hire a private orchestra and record all these abandoned, unrecorded cues?! How different are we from someone like Fitzpatrick? Let's make this happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jay said: You can do that now! https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-99-orchestra-an-orchestra-for-everyone#/ That kickstarter is closed! Neat idea though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Woah! I thought they had been a success, but when their main URL didn't come up from my google, I just quickly linked to the original indiegogo and went back to what I was doing. Now I see that their official website: http://www.99dollarorchestra.com/ Gets blocked by my work's firewall, so they must have completely folded and some hacker bought their URL. Damn! crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,350 Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 @Jay They are called Musiversal now: https://www.musiversal.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,894 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Why hasn't anyone here tried it out yet?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ragoz350 450 Posted August 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2021 Now The Rise of Skywalker... Here is the mockup of the 2M1 Cockpit Dialogue, which was one of the first cues written for the film. It's believed that the cue is an early version of the Falcon Flight, and I thought so too, but judging by the sync hints in the sheets, this is not quite the case. I, of course, cannot be sure, but it looks like in the early cut (when there were 9 reels) there was some scene with a Poe and Finn's flight BEFORE getting the spy's message and lightspeed skipping. At the same time, Skipping itself, apparently, was cut out at that moment. Then they decided to greatly reduce this scene, but return the chase. Again, this is speculation, but I like this theory. Anyway, Williams moved some ideas into the Falcon Flight (same tempo, tremolo strings, Heroics theme). At the same time, 2M1 cue seems to have been recorded, since some bits can be heard in the film. In this case, it turns out that the Falcon Flight had 2 versions, and 1 insert, and they were all recorded for the first reel. Unfortunately, I have no idea how to fill in a lot of the missing video material, so I just inserted the hints from the sketch. Also, towards the end, some shots don't sync well (in particular, when TIEs arrive). Also, many thanks to @BrotherSound for breakdown the cues, and their hypothetical chronological order. Cerebral Cortex, MrJosh, CGCJ and 11 others 6 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 7/6/2021 at 2:07 PM, BrotherSound said: So, I've been curious about how the Oracle would have fit into the Mustafar scenes. There's actually two quite different versions of the scene in the novelizations: the Rae Carson novelization has a longer version featuring Hux and Pryde and with more dialog between the Oracle and Kylo, and Kylo wades into the pond the Oracle appears in to find the Wayfinder on some kind of island or platform in the middle. In the junior novelization, the Oracle talks to Kylo, but he never says a word in return. The Wayfinder is instead in Vader's castle or at least the ruins of it. There's also a confrontation between Kylo and his stormtroopers and the cultists before the battle breaks out. I'm basing this restoration on the junior novelization version, since it seems to fit better with the unused music. I believe the majority of this music is 1M15 Vader's Castle, though at least some of it is from a cue mysteriously called Ready to be a Jedi! However, I believe a different cue, 1M6 Ren's Entrance, may have scored a longer version similar to the Carson novelization. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1H4tkHtAcCdB5-ZPmA57K7wh9-z1f_lNO/view?usp=sharing Finally watched this. WOW! Great work! As people continue to figure out the mysteries of this score, I love it more and more! On 7/6/2021 at 8:21 PM, Manakin Skywalker said: One thought I had is that perhaps instead of the scene ending with the Oracle sinking back under the lake, there could have been a shot/shots of Kylo walking toward the castle instead, before reaching the wayfinder. I'm not sure if it would work, but the ending does look and sound alright: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1S4YiEONY-53eK-rrlU3CcdelFtBLGIFz/view?usp=sharing Ah yes, that does make more sense Quote EDIT: Also this is pretty far off, just going by what's in the film and on the album, but I noticed that The Nursery fits quite well if the star destroyer shots are removed. I also had to lob off a bit of the beginning, so it's just a wild guess. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1k-6cc6s1rJMdWwK8G46_3MTqDD_RhWl1/view?usp=sharing Works for me! Manakin Skywalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/2/2021 at 5:13 AM, ragoz350 said: Now The Rise of Skywalker... Here is the mockup of the 2M1 Cockpit Dialogue, which was one of the first cues written for the film. It's believed that the cue is an early version of the Falcon Flight, and I thought so too, but judging by the sync hints in the sheets, this is not quite the case. I, of course, cannot be sure, but it looks like in the early cut (when there were 9 reels) there was some scene with a Poe and Finn's flight BEFORE getting the spy's message and lightspeed skipping. At the same time, Skipping itself, apparently, was cut out at that moment. Then they decided to greatly reduce this scene, but return the chase. Again, this is speculation, but I like this theory. Anyway, Williams moved some ideas into the Falcon Flight (same tempo, tremolo strings, Heroics theme). At the same time, 2M1 cue seems to have been recorded, since some bits can be heard in the film. In this case, it turns out that the Falcon Flight had 2 versions, and 1 insert, and they were all recorded for the first reel. Unfortunately, I have no idea how to fill in a lot of the missing video material, so I just inserted the hints from the sketch. Also, towards the end, some shots don't sync well (in particular, when TIEs arrive). Also, many thanks to @BrotherSound for breakdown the cues, and their hypothetical chronological order. Wowzers! That was super, super interesting. It's really quite extraordinary how much JJ Abrams just continually and significantly altered the flow of this film throughout the entirety of production and post production. Also, this cue is great! These arrangements of Poe's theme and the Resistance March are super cool! Thanks for continuing to do these, and man is the day alll the sheets leak going to be exciting, let alone the day we finally get proper expansions! Manakin Skywalker and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragoz350 450 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jay said: Wowzers! That was super, super interesting. It's really quite extraordinary how much JJ Abrams just continually and significantly altered the flow of this film throughout the entirety of production and post production. Also, this cue is great! These arrangements of Poe's theme and the Resistance March are super cool! Thanks for continuing to do these, and man is the day alll the sheets leak going to be exciting, let alone the day we finally get proper expansions! In fact, arrangement of Poe's theme is a quote from the concert version of TFA credits and also used in the 'Escape' sequence in TLJ (I just mockuped it because of the difference in tempo). It's impossible to say exactly what this cue was intended for (this may actually be an early version of Falcon Flight), but it must be said that some of the sync hints ("Poe Reacts", "Creature Dial.', "Finn - New Key") match very well with the shot lengths. I think that all the scenes from the first half of the film can't be completely restored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Oh, definitely. The amount of deleted footage for this film must be off the charts BrotherSound 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeH 768 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 @ragoz350 did you use notation software or sample libraries for that mock-up? Sounds great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragoz350 450 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 14 hours ago, MikeH said: @ragoz350 did you use notation software or sample libraries for that mock-up? Sounds great! Sample libraries. In fact, mixing skills (of which I have few) are also very important. MikeH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ragoz350 450 Posted August 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2021 Made a mini-mockup of a small cue 3m23 No, No... No! from TFA. This cue is completely cut from the film, but some bits remain in one of the documentaries. The cue is intended for the scene where Rey and Finn are trying to fix the ship and Finn talks about "his" base. One interesting thing about this cue is the nice "quiet" use of the Pursuit theme in a slightly ironic context. There are at least two versions of this cue - but the "revised" version is a slightly abridged version of the original, adapted for new cut. Something like this would look like a scene with this music (here I used the "Revised" version, but I had to adapt some shots, since the cue was even shorter than the scene). And here is the original version separately, if anyone is interested. ragoz350 · TFA 3M23 No, No... No! Raiders of the SoundtrArk, CGCJ, ZenLogic101 and 5 others 4 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Great mockup! I think I still prefer the music less scene though but it surely bring a bit more fun to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Oh man, this little cue is so fun! I do agree that in the film itself, it makes more sense to let the scene play unscored. But what a fun track this will be on an eventual expanded score release! BrotherSound 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BrotherSound 2,242 Posted August 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2021 5 hours ago, ragoz350 said: Made a mini-mockup of a small cue 3m23 No, No... No! from TFA. This cue is completely cut from the film, but some bits remain in one of the documentaries. Nice work! It’s a fun variation of the Finn/chase material, and when an expansion finally comes out, I’m sure our great-great-grandchildren will enjoy it very much. 🤷♂️ Just wanted to link to the bit of the cue that’s leaked: DrTenma, Manakin Skywalker and ragoz350 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 "leaked" isn't really the right word, as there's been no session leaks for this score. That bit of music was heard in one of the documentaries on the blu ray BrotherSound 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ragoz350 450 Posted August 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2021 The Rise of Skywalker again... This time I tried to "restore" the full cue 1M8 Approaching The Nursey (orig: Approaching The Emperor). In fact, this cue is still partially used in the movie in the right scene, though with a lot of editing. Also, in a very abbreviated form, this cue is present in the second part of the first track of the OST. The scene has undergone many changes, in particular, the Palpatine's speech has been shortened, and his off-screen lines (in the first half of the scene) doesn't match the sync hints in the JW's sketch. Also, it looks like some shots of the fleet in the middle of the scene have been added (in the movie Imperial March from 1M15 Vader's Castle sounds). The second half of the scene is difficult to reconstruct, since the material was obviously re-shot/re-edited/re-dubbed, so I decided to leave almost only the sync hints (sorry for such kind of "restored" video, but this is a TROS). Interestingly, the first appearance of the Psalm of the Sith in the unused part of the cue can be found. There is a similar but abbreviated string rendition in the "Join Me". The next rendition (horns and low string tremolos) is in the "Anthem of Evil" (I don’t know what cue it actually is). Smaug The Iron, BrotherSound, Cerebral Cortex and 11 others 7 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Thanks for that, that was great. What a nice, moody cue! I'd love for a Star Wars movie to have almost 6 straight minutes of this kind of stuff! And a soundtrack album too! Manakin Skywalker and crumbs 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylanskie 104 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 14 hours ago, ragoz350 said: The Rise of Skywalker again... This time I tried to "restore" the full cue 1M8 Approaching The Nursey (orig: Approaching The Emperor). In fact, this cue is still partially used in the movie in the right scene, though with a lot of editing. Also, in a very abbreviated form, this cue is present in the second part of the first track of the OST. The scene has undergone many changes, in particular, the Palpatine's speech has been shortened, and his off-screen lines (in the first half of the scene) doesn't match the sync hints in the JW's sketch. Also, it looks like some shots of the fleet in the middle of the scene have been added (in the movie Imperial March from 1M15 Vader's Castle sounds). The second half of the scene is difficult to reconstruct, since the material was obviously re-shot/re-edited/re-dubbed, so I decided to leave almost only the sync hints (sorry for such kind of "restored" video, but this is a TROS). Interestingly, the first appearance of the Psalm of the Sith in the unused part of the cue can be found. There is a similar but abbreviated string rendition in the "Join Me". The next rendition (horns and low string tremolos) is in the "Anthem of Evil" (I don’t know what cue it actually is). I have been really loving your TROS mockups. Just to be clear, 1m9 is an entire 5:45 long, right? There has to be just so much unreleased material that I hope we'll hear before our deaths That sinister statement of Rey's theme at the end was a surprise! crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 14 hours ago, ragoz350 said: The Rise of Skywalker again... This time I tried to "restore" the full cue 1M8 Approaching The Nursey (orig: Approaching The Emperor). In fact, this cue is still partially used in the movie in the right scene, though with a lot of editing. Also, in a very abbreviated form, this cue is present in the second part of the first track of the OST. The scene has undergone many changes, in particular, the Palpatine's speech has been shortened, and his off-screen lines (in the first half of the scene) doesn't match the sync hints in the JW's sketch. Also, it looks like some shots of the fleet in the middle of the scene have been added (in the movie Imperial March from 1M15 Vader's Castle sounds). The second half of the scene is difficult to reconstruct, since the material was obviously re-shot/re-edited/re-dubbed, so I decided to leave almost only the sync hints (sorry for such kind of "restored" video, but this is a TROS). Interestingly, the first appearance of the Psalm of the Sith in the unused part of the cue can be found. There is a similar but abbreviated string rendition in the "Join Me". The next rendition (horns and low string tremolos) is in the "Anthem of Evil" (I don’t know what cue it actually is). Interesting. I know this is a mockup, but was that whole 5 minutes and 45 seconds actually conducted and recorded by the Maestro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,894 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 14 minutes ago, JohnnyD said: Interesting. I know this is a mockup, but was that whole 5 minutes and 45 seconds actually conducted and recorded by the Maestro? Most likely. Plus probably some other variations I imagine depending on how often the sequence was changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ragoz350 450 Posted August 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2021 6 hours ago, dylanskie said: I have been really loving your TROS mockups. Just to be clear, 1m9 is an entire 5:45 long, right? There has to be just so much unreleased material that I hope we'll hear before our deaths That sinister statement of Rey's theme at the end was a surprise! In the sketch, the duration is listed as 5:35. In the cue itself, I also like how a new theme (Psalm of the Sith) appears: first, at 1:50-2:17, one motif is repeated, which later becomes part of a new theme (4:36). I also like that many of the local phrases (in particular, alto flute and cello) use lowered IV degree (or Hungarian scale), which emphasizes the similarity of the Kylo Ren and Palpatine themes heard in this cue (which are also written in this sсale). dylanskie, crumbs and Jay 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 7 hours ago, dylanskie said: That sinister statement of Rey's theme at the end was a surprise! I'm glad someone else heard that! What a cool little statement of her theme! dylanskie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherSound 2,242 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 On 8/30/2021 at 6:30 AM, ragoz350 said: The next rendition (horns and low string tremolos) is in the "Anthem of Evil" (I don’t know what cue it actually is). Oh, good catch! I’ll update my OST breakdown. Actually, the spectrogram makes it seem that passage was edited in, so it’s likely to actually be sourced from 1M8. Unusually for a Williams OST track, ‘Anthem of Evil’ seems to contain a lot of short edits of sections of multiple cues and even pitch-shifting. ragoz350 and CGCJ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Faleel 5,350 Posted September 16, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2021 Hey, Guys, I updated the main post with all my videos that were buried in the thread, including AOTC, ROTS, ROTJ, and updated/redone versions of cues from the TPM Finale. @ragoz350 ragoz350, Manakin Skywalker and jrauman 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ragoz350 450 Posted October 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2021 Someone may have done it, but I decided to look at the old versions of the cues of the two Snoke scenes from TFA. And they turned out to be quite curious... Let's start with the first scene. We know at least three versions of this cue. The first version (4m30 Snoke) is very different from the others. Here the use of synth voices (note from the score: "space" voice - distant; very still (if it can be slightly sinister)) with the slight addition of a real chorus is noteworthy. Also interesting is pretty dramatic rendition of the Kylo Ren theme at the end of the cue. Btw, the timpani roll at the beginning of the cue should overlap the end of the previous cue (3m29 and 3m29R Leia, C3PO & R2), intended for the deleted scene with Leia and the droids. The second version (4m30R Snoke) is closer to the final cue. A male chorus is used throughout the entire cue. However, the music here is very different - the chorus has four parts (unlike the unison in the film version) and no text. The choral performance of the Kylo Ren theme is also very unexpected. It's perhaps a rare case of such use of the male chorus in the JW's scores. The second scene has only two known versions (there may have been an earlier version, but AFAIK, it hasn't been leaked). The cue 6m54AR Bring Her To Me (old version) begins with a small orchestral introduction (almost kept in the final version), and then the male chorus sounds, like in the 4m30R cue, and so does the Kylo theme. Holko, Chewy, crumbs and 8 others 5 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Manakin Skywalker 4,894 Posted October 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2021 Whoa! Very interesting and different variations. The first iteration with the ethereal chorus sounds very unusual, almost reminiscent of some of the Jedi council material from TPM (most notably High Council Meeting) but slightly darker/creepier. Also almost a small reference to Jedi Steps (the part when Luke is revealed) around :43 in the last video. @ragoz350 Curious what VST you used for the ethereal chorus at the beginning of the first video? I kinda like the sound. ragoz350, crumbs and Falstaft 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragoz350 450 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Manakin Skywalker said: Curious what VST you used for the ethereal chorus at the beginning of the first video? I kinda like the sound Oh, that are synth voices from Sibelius Sounds, just with heavy reverb. Manakin Skywalker and michael_grig 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragoz350 450 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 On 22/10/2021 at 10:08 AM, Manakin Skywalker said: The first iteration with the ethereal chorus sound very unusual, almost reminiscent of some of the Jedi council material from TPM (most notably High Council Meeting) but slightly darker/creepier. In fact, this kind of use of synthes and mixing them with strings sounds a lot like A.I. Many similar textures can be found there. (for example, David and Martin) Well, and the second version, IMO, would have been perfect for the movie, I don't understand why Abrams rejected it. I recently noticed a funny detail when the tenors go an octave higher when Snoke stands up sharply Manakin Skywalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BrotherSound 2,242 Posted November 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2021 I’ve got a couple brief restored score videos for fragments of The Rise of Skywalker cues that got tracked into different scenes. First up is ‘Filial Fencing’ (1M2?). The Luke and Leia duel flashback was apparently the original opening of the film and lasted considerably longer; the documentary shows several shots for this sequence that didn’t make the final cut being filmed. ’Filial Fencing’ is tracked into the scene where dark Rey appears, but I believe it was intended for this original opening, and the more threatening tone makes sense given that we wouldn’t initially know this was Luke and Leia. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rbkgM0IhnARLaM5WHbFFORl9u_6OBxH2/view?usp=drivesdk A cue titled ‘The Feeling’ is tracked where Rey realizes Chewbacca is still alive. It seems most likely intended for this scene of Finn and Jannah which prominently features the phrase “a feeling” in the dialogue (ultimately tracked with music from The Force Awakens): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lQJluM0CoKRBb_kDARrwBC1tzms6oLbz/view?usp=drivesdk crumbs, Falstaft, Manakin Skywalker and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 On 17/09/2021 at 12:58 AM, Grace Under Pressure said: Hey, Guys, I updated the main post with all my videos that were buried in the thread, including AOTC, ROTS, ROTJ, and updated/redone versions of cues from the TPM Finale. @ragoz350 Just to let you know, the videos in the main post all appear to be privated. jrauman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Interesting videos, Brothersound! I'm not convinced either is really how JW scored things, but who knows, the score full of the most mysteries of his entire career... BrotherSound 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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