Quintus 5,399 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Quint, that comment is one of the strangest comments I've read on this forum in quite a while. Yes OF COURSE something can be unique, daring, and different while being ugly and unappealing.Okay I get it this is like one of those times when a talking head who writes for a website says something really unpopular about a movie or game and thinks he's making an uncomfortable controversial point just because he's got a few people leaving responses in the Disqus comments section below when the obvious reality is the Phantom Menace just looks like synthetic badly lit arse.Just because you say and possibly think it doesn't mean you qualified it, Blume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 About that snap zoom, it was the only part I hated. STID has quite a few of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I've always liked well spotted moments like that, they can add tangible dynamism to a shot. Lucas did something right for once when he stuck one in Attack of the Clones, because it made the movie feel well made for about 2 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Look at The Phantom Menace. I can't think of a film within a decade of its release, forward or backwards that has the same aesthetics. From overall art direction, down to the choice of transitions, the style of dialogue, story pacing, to sound profile!I'd say that every Star Wars film has its own look but they all look like Star Wars.The prequels look like TV episodes glued together. DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I noticed the TIE fighters look chrome plated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I've always liked well spotted moments like that, they can add tangible dynamism to a shot. Lucas did something right for once when he stuck one in Attack of the Clones, because it made the movie feel well made for about 2 seconds.Hahahahaha!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Look at The Phantom Menace. I can't think of a film within a decade of its release, forward or backwards that has the same aesthetics. From overall art direction, down to the choice of transitions, the style of dialogue, story pacing, to sound profile!I'd say that every Star Wars film has its own look but they all look like Star Wars. The prequels look like TV episodes glued together.David Tatterstal isn't a very good DP.He also did Die Another Day, which looks awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I've always liked well spotted moments like that, they can add tangible dynamism to a shot. Lucas did something right for once when he stuck one in Attack of the Clones, because it made the movie feel well made for about 2 seconds.Well we can be certain you have no authority on taste! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Look at The Phantom Menace. I can't think of a film within a decade of its release, forward or backwards that has the same aesthetics. From overall art direction, down to the choice of transitions, the style of dialogue, story pacing, to sound profile!I'd say that every Star Wars film has its own look but they all look like Star Wars. The prequels look like TV episodes glued together.David Tatterstal isn't a very good DP.He also did Die Another Day, which looks awfulI like the Cuba scenes. They harken back to Ted Moore's photography on the early Bonds.TPM might be bland, but it's crisp and elegant. Miles better than the digital shit sauce of the other two prequels. That all said, the only SW film with remarkable lensing is ESB, thanks to the great Peter Suschitzky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 By the way, did anyone else think that voiceover was some of the most cringeworthy bullshit they've heard in a while? "The Force runs in the family...my Dad has it...my sister has it...Hold on now. Did you seriously not recognize that his narration was lines he said in Return of the Jedi? mrbellamy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Whether it's the same recording as from 1983, edited for pacing and inflection, or a new reading, I can't tell for sure. But it's interesting in the original presentation, "my sister" and "you" are the same person, Leia. Here, we can't know yet who he's talking to. Leia again, or a new Skywalker prodigy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Whether it's the same recording as from 1983, edited for pacing and inflection, or a new reading, I can't tell for sure.It's definitely not a 2014/2015 recording hearing how Hamill's voice sounded in the live panel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I'll place my bet it's a new recording Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Whether it's the same recording as from 1983, edited for pacing and inflection, or a new reading, I can't tell for sure.It's definitely not a 2014/2015 recording hearing how Hamill's voice sounded in the live panel.I agree. The voice sounds young, with inflection just like in the earlier film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I bet someone is going to restore and use Darth Vader's helmet in the film. Because it's now a Disney mascot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Is Vader's charred skull still in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,915 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Is Vader's charred skull still in it?it will probably have a cameo ala Sean Connery photo in KOTCS allowing for a brief mention of Empire theme. But the drama will quickly switch to the love rectangle of chewy-han-luke-leia. My expectation is JW will use quartal harmony to represent the foursome. hahahaha. Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,293 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Whether it's the same recording as from 1983, edited for pacing and inflection, or a new reading, I can't tell for sure.It's definitely not a 2014/2015 recording hearing how Hamill's voice sounded in the live panel.I agree. The voice sounds young, with inflection just like in the earlier film.Also notice he says "My father has it." I think it's just clipped from ROTJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nightscape94 965 Posted April 17, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2015 The trailer gave me a throbbing nerd boner. karelm, Sharkissimo and Cerebral Cortex 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Use your jazz hands, everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 The trailer gave me a throbbing nerd boner.Yeah! I'm gonna ask the missus if we can roleplay tonight as a Sith and a helpless, kidnapped Resistance soldier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 She may cut your dick in half and serve it to a pig And though it hurts, you'll laugh and dance a dickless jig But that's the way the way it goes, in Star Wars you're shat upon Even if you die, LA RESISTANCE lives on mrbellamy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Suddenly sounds like Game of Thrones roleplay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Whether it's the same recording as from 1983, edited for pacing and inflection, or a new reading, I can't tell for sure. But it's interesting in the original presentation, "my sister" and "you" are the same person, Leia. Here, we can't know yet who he's talking to. Leia again, or a new Skywalker prodigy.I don't think "sister" and "you" are the same person because he says, "you have that power, too." He could be saying it to the Solo offspring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Suddenly sounds like Game of Thrones roleplay...That's when my sister visits.I don't have a sister, just to be clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Suddenly sounds like Game of Thrones roleplay...That's when my sister visits.Hey, that still works with Star Wars! Quintus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Well it's from South Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Just for some perspective, the Prequels, Crystal Skull and Star Trek 2009 all looked great from the trailers. It's not hard to make this shit look awesome when you're dealing with stuff that is awesome by default. You know, Luke, Han, Chewie, X-Wings, TIE Fighters, the Falcon, droids, Vader's helmet, etc.That said, I liked what I saw. However, I felt like it basically confirmed all the rumors/spoilers that they called bullshit on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Just for some perspective, the Prequels, Crystal Skull and Star Trek 2009 all looked great from the trailers. It's not hard to make this shit look awesome when you're dealing with stuff that is awesome by default. You know, Luke, Han, Chewie, X-Wings, TIE Fighters, the Falcon, droids, Vader's helmet, etc.That said, I liked what I saw. However, I felt like it basically confirmed all the rumors/spoilers that they called bullshit on.True, which is why I am cautiously optimistic. I enjoyed this teaser more than the previous for your listed reasons, including Williams music. However, TFA is lacking one thing the Prequels and Crystal Skull had in common... Lucas. Lucas is gone now and even his treatments reportedly weren't used for TFA. But, Abrams did say they were trying to please everybody, which includes those who enjoy the PT and Crystal Skull. Therefore, I still remain mostly excited for Williams music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 How sweet would it have been to be able to see this without knowing it was coming? Remember what trailers felt like before the internet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,293 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Just for some perspective, the Prequels, Crystal Skull and Star Trek 2009 all looked great from the trailers. It's not hard to make this shit look awesome when you're dealing with stuff that is awesome by default. You know, Luke, Han, Chewie, X-Wings, TIE Fighters, the Falcon, droids, Vader's helmet, etc.That said, I liked what I saw. However, I felt like it basically confirmed all the rumors/spoilers that they called bullshit on.True, which is why I am cautiously optimistic. I enjoyed this teaser more than the previous for your listed reasons, including Williams music. However, TFA is lacking one thing the Prequels and Crystal Skull had in common... Lucas. Lucas is gone now and even his treatments reportedly weren't used for TFA. But, Abrams did say they were trying to please everybody, which includes those who enjoy the PT and Crystal Skull. Therefore, I still remain mostly excited for Williams music.Pretty much just in it for Williams too, but I am liking the new tidbits we're getting. The three new leads look good together. X-Wing pilot, Scavenger, and Stormtrooper is a neat combination. This BB-8 thing just seems charming as hell, fascinating to see in action at that panel, love how small it is and the way it constantly rolls and slides around which could be pretty funny. Seems like an actually fun, entertaining sidekick. We're all bound to have our problems with how the story develops, but I'm liking the tone of the trailers in a way that I haven't really felt about a lot of recent blockbusters. They either look way too serious or not serious enough, and these are hitting a decent sweet spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I just saw the BB-8 clip at the panel. I think aside from Williams' score, he'll be the best part of the film! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Aw, poor R2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 The teaser is anti-cynicism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I hope they do something about Carrie Fisher's mushmouth. Jesus, I cannot stand to listen to her speak anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I have a feeling she won't have much screen time anyway.... unless if a rumor about her turns out to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 About that snap zoom, it was the only part I hated. STID has quite a few of them.It's nothing new. The Battle of Hoth had a snap zoom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I hope they do something about Carrie Fisher's mushmouth. Jesus, I cannot stand to listen to her speak anymore.Digitally remove her mouth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 About that snap zoom, it was the only part I hated. STID has quite a few of them.It's nothing new. The Battle of Hoth had a snap zoom! The binoculars shot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Is it just me or does the new Chewie costume look really bad? Still looks better than the ROTS version though.Looks like Chewie's wearing hot pink lipstick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 6:05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 About that snap zoom, it was the only part I hated. STID has quite a few of them.It's nothing new. The Battle of Hoth had a snap zoom! The binoculars shot?6:06. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 6:056:06.6:05:05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Abrams did make some veiled jabs at the over reliance on CGI by talking up the value of practical effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Abrams did make some veiled jabs at the over reliance on CGI by talking up the value of practical effects.Good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Isn't that like Jordan Belfort making veiled jabs at stock-broking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Look at The Phantom Menace. I can't think of a film within a decade of its release, forward or backwards that has the same aesthetics. From overall art direction, down to the choice of transitions, the style of dialogue, story pacing, to sound profile!I'd say that every Star Wars film has its own look but they all look like Star Wars.The prequels look like TV episodes glued together.I was talking about the art direction. So was Blumkuhl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I've always liked well spotted moments like that, they can add tangible dynamism to a shot. Lucas did something right for once when he stuck one in Attack of the Clones, because it made the movie feel well made for about 2 seconds.Well we can be certain you have no authority on taste!So you think Phantom Menace was daring AND love Attack of the Clones? Oh god, it's all so much clearer now. By the way, did anyone else think that voiceover was some of the most cringeworthy bullshit they've heard in a while? "The Force runs in the family...my Dad has it...my sister has it...Hold on now. Did you seriously not recognize that his narration was lines he said in Return of the Jedi?Jay, this is the meta film makers have to deal with nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF1_freeze 131 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I'd say that every Star Wars film has its own look but they all look like Star Wars.The prequels look like TV episodes glued together.Stop trolling, get out of this thread and stop your shitposting!!! You are extremely annoying. How can you get enjoyment out of of pooping into one of the most exciting threads on jwfan in the last 10 years!Trailer looked fantastic! Art direction, music, acting and scenery are amazing!!Dat John Williams music! Is fantastic! That's because it was written 30 years ago. Fucking braindead troll posts... gkgyver you suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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