Quintus 5,399 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Jason said the trailer was too vague with conveying what this new movie is about but I thought the trailer hinted at that just fine. Do people really want a clear plot outline from trailers these days? Keep the mystery, I say. Lee - also bemused as to why anyone would ever expect anything strikingly offbeat or different from any entry into this franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share Posted October 20, 2015 George Lucas was one of the last true film auteurs. I don't think JJ can claim that same title!I'm not claiming Abrams to be anything.Let me give you my perspective on this. I was born in the mid-1980's. Star Wars wasn't part of my childhood. Not really. Not until SE came out. But, by then, it was already an old thing from another time. It's a film in this trilogy I watched the least and I haven't seen it in more than a decade. I just never really... like it? It's a tad boring actually. I can, however, completely understand why it means so much to an entire generation of people. And the history behind its creation is a milestone in cinema history, at least in terms of popular culture and movie business. But I don't really feel the need to think of it beyond being a "movie that got popular because it came out at the right time". For my generation, the closest thing would be probably Jurassic Park. And I do have some nostalgic attachment to that. But I don't want to mythologize and claim it to be anything. Anyway, my point is all your claiming Star Wars to be anything special is just that --- your perspective and perception. And your generation's. I respect it as your own personal thing but don't agree with it. It's not an objective fact. It just isn't.Why do I think George Lucas made Star Wars? To have a popular film for everyone to enjoy. Was he thinking it would garn much money? Not necessarily. Was he hoping for it? It would be naive to think he wasn't.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Jason said the trailer was too vague with conveying what this new movie is about but I thought the trailer hinted at that just fine. Do people really want a clear plot outline from trailers these days? Keep the mystery, I say.Lee - also bemused as to why anyone would ever expect anything strikingly offbeat or different from any entry into this franchise.Alas the trailers these days give out too much info on the movie, often containing stuff from pivotal moments you would like to be a surprise when you go and see a film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I was born in '77 and Star Wars wasn't a part of my own childhood either, as some here seem to think it was almost as if by default. I didn't even watch Star Wars properly until I was 17, after purchasing a VHS boxset. Indiana Jones and Superman were my childhood movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share Posted October 20, 2015 I didn't see Indiana Jones until I was 15. And that was 2000. I remember the Young Indy TV show. Superman would be the thing, too. But not Christopher Reeve film. I was reading comic books. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Having had a cup of coffee and watching the trailer a few times. It's a fine trailer.It still doesnt give away much of anything. But that's hardly surprising considering JJ's obsession with secrecy.The fact that they don't show Luke makes me hope that they have a truly splendid reveal in stall for him.Interested by the fact that this time the main character is female. Daisy Ridley looks like she could be excellent.This might very well be a fun, rip-roaring space adventure, with a healthy dollop of affection for the original trilogy.And The Force Theme, even when pumped up like that, still gives me goose bumps.I think I'll pre-order my cinema ticket now. I'm ready for this new era of Star Wars.I was born in '77 and Star Wars wasn't a part of my own childhood either, as some here seem to think it was almost as if by default. I didn't even watch Star Wars properly until I was 17, after purchasing a VHS boxset.Indiana Jones and Superman were my childhood movies.I know I saw Star Wars on a Belgian channel with Dutch/French subtitles when I was a kid. But didnt really become interested in it untill my mid teens. I think I rented them out because John Williams had scored them.I thought Star Wars was pretty good. But it wasnt really untill TESB that the franchise blew me away.I did have an Ewok and a few other characters, I think from Jabba's palace, when I was a kid. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Jason said the trailer was too vague with conveying what this new movie is about but I thought the trailer hinted at that just fine. Do people really want a clear plot outline from trailers these days? Keep the mystery, I say.Lee - also bemused as to why anyone would ever expect anything strikingly offbeat or different from any entry into this franchise.Alas the trailers these days give out too much info on the movie, often containing stuff from pivotal moments you would like to be a surprise when you go and see a film.It's at an all time worst if you ask me. That's why I try to go in blind, because the payoff can be so much more satisfying. M. Knight Shyamalan's latest was better for it, most recently. This latest trailer was actually quite refreshing in that regard. And then you have media harvesters like Jason LeBlanc who complain that a trailer isn't specific or clear enough. And my despair continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share Posted October 20, 2015 Jason said the trailer was too vague with conveying what this new movie is about but I thought the trailer hinted at that just fine. Do people really want a clear plot outline from trailers these days? Keep the mystery, I say.Lee - also bemused as to why anyone would ever expect anything strikingly offbeat or different from any entry into this franchise.Alas the trailers these days give out too much info on the movie, often containing stuff from pivotal moments you would like to be a surprise when you go and see a film.It's at an all time worst if you ask me. That's why I try to go in blind, because the payoff can be so much more satisfying. M. Knight Shyamalan's latest was better for it, most recently.This latest trailer was actually quite refreshing in that regard. And then you have media harvesters like Jason LeBlanc who complain that a trailer isn't specific or clear enough. And my despair continues.I agree with that too.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I find it interesting for The Force, the Jedi and Luke seem to be regarded as long forgotten myths. even though they happened only a few decades ago in the context of this film.We already saw that in Star Wars 1977. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 This latest trailer was actually quite refreshing in that regard. And then you have media harvesters like Jason LeBlanc who complain that a trailer isn't specific or clear enough. And my despair continues.Many seem to overemphasize the importance of trailers. A good trailer is supposed to give you a whiff of what you will see when you choose to go to the cinema, but nothing more.But essentially a trailer is a disposable item for me. I don't expect or require them to have any artistic merit. They are essentially an advert.I find it interesting for The Force, the Jedi and Luke seem to be regarded as long forgotten myths. even though they happened only a few decades ago in the context of this film.We already saw that in Star Wars 1977.I know. But it wasnt untill the Prequels that that was really brought home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 There's enough material in these trailers for a creative mind to connect the dots and figure the basic outline of the plot, imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 For those who are so inclined. But I agree with Lee. I rather let it all come to me as new as possible.On the 16th of December in my local cinema. at 10 in the morning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share Posted October 20, 2015 Do you think that in episode 8 we'll get more muted colours, bounty hunters, love story, some variation on "attack/strike" in the title and unresolved story?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 The only moments that got me excited are the Han related scenes. Apart from that, it was a strange trailer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 There's enough material in these trailers for a creative mind to connect the dots and figure the basic outline of the plot, imho.Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Good against evil, space ships, light sabers, The Force!That's all I need for now mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Yes.Only fools wish they had reinvented the Star Wars wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 The only moments that got me excited are the Han related scenes. Only at Jwfan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 What moments got you excited, Alex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I already expressed my first impressions, Steef. Let me change the question somewhat, did you see something in the trailer that I should be excited about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 No, It's not in your nature to be truly excited about a new Disney film, a JJ film or a new John Williams score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 So you're saying I should be excited because it's Disney or JJ or John Williams' music reduced to unisono melodies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 No, that's not what I'm saying.Learn to read English correctly. Then come back to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 BTW, it was just on the news and seeing the trailer on TV does kinda make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 For good or for bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 It's better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Do you have a Plasma or LED screen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 TV = PlasmaComputer = LED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Did Drax watch it on his CRT TV? How does it look on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 No, Drax watched it on his PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Surely he has a early 2000's CRT monitor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I watched it on my phone. #notarsed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Surely he has a early 2000's CRT monitor?If it's good enough for the Nostromo, it's good enough for Drax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Excellent definition on those! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 LIke I said in the other post deidcated to the music, the reason why we don't see Luke, a part from his supposedly arm on R2-D2, is because he maybe appears masked in the trailer.My theroy is that he's one of the Ken Knights, maybe wearing a similar suit than Kylo Ren.I have a feeling that Luke is leading the bad guys in this movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 LIke I said in the other post deidcated to the music, the reason why we don't see Luke, a part from his supposedly arm on R2-D2, is because he always appears masked in the trailer.My theroy is that he's one of the Ken Knights, maybe wearing a similar suit than Kylo Ren.Nah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Did Drax watch it on his CRT TV? How does it look on that?The one I dropped down the stairs? No.I did watch it on my plasma that has a nasty thin black line running through the panel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 iT WAS GOOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 One thing to bear in mind is that this is the first movie in a new trilogy. So even if you think you know where's this one heading to, we don't how things will ultimately pan out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 So, if Episode VII is to be a remake of Star Wars, does that mean Episode VIII will be a remake of ESB? Awesome! You're too late for this joke!! Do you think that in episode 8 we'll get more muted colours, bounty hunters, love story, some variation on "attack/strike" in the title and unresolved story? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 You need a Fanfare for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Who's Aaron Copland? I'm talking about Emerson, Lake, and/or Palmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,839 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 And The Force Theme, even when pumped up like that, still gives me goose bumps.Just watched the trailer.That was one element that i didn't like.That is, the arrangement of the theme in a way that all latest film music in action/sci-fi is arranged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 It was bitching! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Who's Aaron Copland?The common man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 He wrote his own Fanfare? That's not at all narcissistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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