crumbs 14,319 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 12 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said: I am musically illiterate. So take whatever that follows with a grain of salt. Williams E a C# F C E a C# D# E A Gia a E D E F C a E D E F# D For someone who calls themselves musically illiterate, you know your stuff! And you pretty much explained exactly what I've grown to hate about Giacchino's blockbuster works -- it's pedestrian, predictable, text-book rubbish far beneath his level of talent. TheUlyssesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 12 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said: Williams E a C# F C E a C# D# E A Gia a E D E F C a E D E F# D I'm no good at maths, is this a sumb? TheUlyssesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,319 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 It's an equation which answers the meaning of life. Ala, Williams is a genius -- Giacchino ain't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 9 minutes ago, crumbs said: For someone who calls themselves musically illiterate, you know your stuff! And you pretty much explained exactly what I've grown to hate about Giacchino's blockbuster works -- it's pedestrian, predictable, text-book rubbish far beneath his level of talent. I can't read notes at all nor had a single music lesson of any kind in my life. I have self taught the piano to myself so can play a little bit and I use this rudimentary notation to transcribe music. 10 minutes ago, Stefancos said: I'm no good at maths, is this a sumb? Lol it's a very basic attempt at transcribing music cause I can't read notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 16 hours ago, Sharky said: Who composed that score to that game? It sounds leagues better than what we've heard from the Gia suite. I never really heard any music under the constant sound effects and dialogue. Not enough to make any kind of judgment of its quality at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 The music sounds pretty foregrounded in the clip Koray posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 For like 30 seconds at the beginning. I didn't find that them any better than Gia's personally. Anonymous sounding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 It's a little generic in spots, but I take that over grating ineptness. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Max 141 Posted June 17, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2017 I really liked the suite! I feel like Giacchino's theme is a nice, balanced representation of Tom Holland's Peter Parker (a naive, well-meaning high schooler) and this Spider-Man (a coming-of-age superhero), at least as they appear in Civil War and in the trailers for this movie. Admittedly, I'm not as familiar with the other Spider-Man themes beyond their main titles, but I feel like Giacchino's theme could service this iteration of the character well. I like the Vulture's theme, too, though I do agree that it sounds like it could be a Star Trek villain's theme (not that that's a bad thing), and I love what I assume is the love theme toward the end of the suite. I'm excited to hear these themes used in context! leeallen01, Disco Stu, Will and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 I like you, even if I disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,646 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Well, that was substandard for Giacchino. Shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Substandard *even* for Giacchino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwfan2234 59 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Everyone here talkes garbage about every composers scores unless it's John Williams. Hans Zimmer's Interstellar and Dark Knight trilogy scores are incredible. Danny elfman's batsman score is awesome. It's very hard to create a score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Do you still have iTunes credit? I will buy or sell! Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 iTunes credits are no good out here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Will wait until I hear the whole score, but I can't say that I'm too enthusiastic after hearing that suite. Can't help but think that Giacchino may have burned himself out creatively after a packed 2015/2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwfan2234 59 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Also Rogue One is an amazing score Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 A lovely sentiment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Jwfan2234 said: Also Rogue One is an amazing score What? Did Desplat's sessions leak?? Jwfan2234 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwfan2234 59 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 14 minutes ago, Bilbo Skywalker said: What? Did Desplat's sessions leak?? Pretty funny 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,646 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 12 hours ago, Bilbo Skywalker said: Substandard *even* for Giacchino. ? Rogue One and Star Trek were great. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 I still like the Star Trek Beyond score quite a bit. Rogue One was like the Uncanny Valley of film scores. Still can't take listening to it much. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 I agree completely. I'd even go so far as to say that Beyond has some of the best pieces of music Giacchino has written. There is an infectious fun and energy to the whole album, and the action music isn't a glaring weakness like it has been on some of his recent works (at least for me). Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 19, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2017 Rogue One is utter orchestral trash. Sharkissimo, Bilbo, Not Mr. Big and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Synth lover! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 I like Rogue One, but boy can it be "overpowering" at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 The first and foremost function of a film score is to not cut a great album but to work IN THE FILM. As such, Rogue One is a very functional film score and works well in the film. Specially during the massive finale (basically the second half of the film), Gia lets lose quite a racket and it serves the hyper pace of the film. Again, a functional film score which serves the film well. It's not as elegant or refined a score as we are used to for Star Wars but Williams unfortunately cannot score every movie in existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 12 minutes ago, TheUlyssesian said: The first and foremost function of a film score is to not cut a great album but to work IN THE FILM. As such, Rogue One is a very functional film score and works well in the film. Specially during the massive finale (basically the second half of the film), Gia lets lose quite a racket and it serves the hyper pace of the film. Again, a functional film score which serves the film well. It's not as elegant or refined a score as we are used to for Star Wars but Williams unfortunately cannot score every movie in existence. I would totally agree with functional. But I don't think functional is all that great a compliment. TheUlyssesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Don't agree. The music more than once negatively stood out, i. e. those damn brass triplets that were plastered clumsily over the action scenes. I don't think the score was an offense but all things considered, a lame movie wasn't lifted by its score which is the one thing you could say about those prequels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Gia trying his hand at those brass triplets which are second nature to JW didn't really work very well, i agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 1 minute ago, publicist said: Don't agree. The music more than once negatively stood out, i. e. those damn brass triplets that were plastered clumsily over the action scenes. I don't think the score was an offense but all things considered, a lame movie wasn't lifted by its score which is the one thing you could say about those prequels. It's a mercy you could hear the music at all. I think it's a plus that the music was mixed loudly in the sound mix. These days I feel I am either going deaf or I can bearly hear film scores in the cinema hall with all the thunderous sound effects. I think in Rogue One I could hear the score throughout which was nice. 5 minutes ago, Bilbo Skywalker said: I would totally agree with functional. But I don't think functional is all that great a compliment. It's a compliment in context though. Wasn't it a rush job if I remember correctly. Poor Gia having to write the most massive score of his career in like 6 weeks or something. He still delivered a fully symphonic score with 5 major themes instead of the ambient rubbish that we get in big budget movies these days. So it was nice that he still delivered a "proper" film score. You get the sense he cared about this job and did not phone it in with a hackjob like Spiderman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 I don't know, i just listened to that suite and i it seems more assured than those tries at Wagnerian might. To praise a score for being loudly mixed sounds a bit like the old Woody Allen joke about the old ladies complaining about the bad food/small servings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 I have to say that the third act, the Battle over Scarif had some overbearing, clanging, banging and as pub has said, those damn random brass triplets everywhere. For however the prequel scores have been criticised for anonymity and lack of direction in the scores, I think they had more purpose than Rogue One's filling silence. The first two acts had clear engaging music, which complimented the scenes, and I can't help but think the messiness of the score at the end battle (before 'Your Father Would Be Proud') was somehow because of the restructured edits to the end of the film, and Gia shitting himself trying to write anything to accompany it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 It might also have to do with the fact he had four and a half weeks to write an entire score. Arpy and gkgyver 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 If that was a problem for him, then they should have called JNH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Just now, BloodBoal said: If that was a prboelm for him, then they should have called JNH! Did you have your covfefe this morning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Why did you edit my post? Are you trying to spread more FAKE NEWS? Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Such a LAME attempt by the FAILING Bloodboal to try and push BLAME on me! Thankfully JWFan won't fall for such OBVIOUS tricks! SHAME! Bilbo and Cerebral Cortex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 7 minutes ago, GiacchinoCues said: It might also have to do with the fact he had four and a half weeks to write an entire score. That too! Aside from little niggles and complaints, it's still certainly an amazing feat to write a fully fledged score, with good themes to boot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 16 minutes ago, GiacchinoCues said: It might also have to do with the fact he had four and a half weeks to write an entire score. Thats his excuse for Rogue One. I don't think it works for his other numerous poor scores though. KK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Someone other than JW writing the score for a Star Wars film was never going to be met with universal enthusiasm and acclaim Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 But someone more competent might have earned more deserved admiration for his effort. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 I decided to make an example of what Marvel could be musically if they had any continuity in their scores. There's some quick examples in this, and some full examples of how great it could have been. I used Captain America: Civil War clips, and replaced Jackman's awful and forgettable score with Silvestri's Captain America, Giacchino's Spider-Man, Beck's Ant-man, and Tyler's Iron Man. https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=E7092C5B13F6FE4C&id=E7092C5B13F6FE4C!805&parId=root&o=OneUp Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saulocf 79 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 1 hour ago, leeallen01 said: https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=E7092C5B13F6FE4C&id=E7092C5B13F6FE4C!805&parId=root&o=OneUp I am not being able to open it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 2 hours ago, KK said: But someone more competent might have earned more deserved admiration for his effort. I'll admit I lost most of my enthusiasm for the score as soon as Desplat left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 2 hours ago, leeallen01 said: I decided to make an example of what Marvel could be musically if they had any continuity in their scores. There's some quick examples in this, and some full examples of how great it could have been. I used Captain America: Civil War clips, and replaced Jackman's awful and forgettable score with Silvestri's Captain America, Giacchino's Spider-Man, Beck's Ant-man, and Tyler's Iron Man. https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=E7092C5B13F6FE4C&id=E7092C5B13F6FE4C!805&parId=root&o=OneUp Link's not working. Is this not finished? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 It should work. https://1drv.ms/v/s!Akz-9hNbLAnnhiW4yB1TkU6dvoDd I'l look later when I'm home. And if not then I'll upload it to youtube and post the link. toothless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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