Kühni 485 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 8 hours ago, Chen G. said: I suppose by that, musically, he means towards the Grey Havens material. Someone like the Amazon showrunners could be literal-minded and take that theme for a Lindon theme, but it really speaks to the Grey Havens not so much as a place, but as a passage to Valinor. I doubt that HanZ or whoever scores this will take that close a look at Shore's existing material and draw from it...other than the Nazgûl material, which is in d-minor already. @Spider-Fal METANNAAAAA!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kühni 485 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Kill it. Kill it with fire! Jay, Arpy and gkgyver 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Omg that blows the original away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted November 7, 2020 Author Share Posted November 7, 2020 LOTR via Brian Tyler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 I fucking hate those 'EPIC VERSIONS'. Not only are they cheap and crude, but there's perfectly suitable 'epic' versions to be found in the scores themselves. A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,646 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 The synth horn ensemble is butt ugly. When will these people learn that the more horns you add, the smaller the sound gets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 On 9/12/2020 at 8:32 AM, Kühni said: I doubt that HanZ or whoever scores this will take that close a look at Shore's existing material and draw from it...other than the Nazgûl material, which is in d-minor already. @Spider-Fal METANNAAAAA!! it’d be amazing if Zimmer did the TV show. Just purely for the meltdown on here! Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,953 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 On 11/6/2020 at 9:51 PM, Kühni said: Kill it. Kill it with fire! This too: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kühni 485 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 6 hours ago, Chen G. said: This too: What kind of limp-dicked #### is this? gkgyver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 9,532 Posted December 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2020 Watching the theatricals for the first time, even though it's prominently mixed, I can't say I can focus that hard on the music, I didn't even notice much different beside missing cues for missing scenes, and of course I was expecting the buildup and climax in Out from Bree that never came and stuff like that. But. What it did help me grasp again (with the help of relistening to the Rarities disc too) is what an insane achievement this trilogy is: recording and writing out of order, ever-changing cuts, rethought approaches, themes broadening their association in the editing room and that carrying over to the next film, new cues written for new scenes for another edition before the next movie is out, scenes featuring a motif being dropped then reincluded... and Shore somehow still kept it straight in his head and the end result (the CRs, let's say) somehow still ends up being an absolutely towering textbook example of deliberate, coherent, consistent and satisfying musical storytelling. Cerebral Cortex, Jay and KK 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,953 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Holko said: climax [...] that never came Umm, come again? jwalk713 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,532 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Also after listening through the Rarities while reading Doug's notes again... I always thought that early Sammath Naur here and on the OST was just a bland choral mush, but I suddenly just got what it's doing and now I love it and listened to it about 10 times since Tuesday. Jay and Alan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,646 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 On 11/11/2020 at 11:31 PM, Chen G. said: This too: Did he record that through a soda can? Add just 2 more french horns and it sounds like a vuvuzela. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Epic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoverantus 363 Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 The LotR Score Stream with Doug Adams has started, if anyone's interested? Chen G. and Smaug The Iron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoverantus 363 Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 Second part of the Fellowship of the Ring Score Stream with Doug Adams is live now! Smaug The Iron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoverantus 363 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 The Lord of the Rings Score Stream with Doug Adams is live! Tune in on The Two Towers, Part 1: Smaug The Iron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoverantus 363 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 The Lord of the Rings Score Stream with Doug Adams: The Two Towers, Part 2! Smaug The Iron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoverantus 363 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 The Lord of the Rings Score Stream final chapter starting now! With commentary from Doug Adams himself, it's time for The Return of the King, Part 1! Also, are any of you even watching these, or am I literally shouting into the void? Smaug The Iron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I'm not watching them live - if I didn't have a kid, I'd carve out the time more easily. I plan to watch all of them, Hobbit and all, eventually - but it's good to know they're still going on! Monoverantus and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 What I've sampled so far seems interesting, but I really can't stand that host. Monoverantus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smaug The Iron 516 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I am planing to watch this soon. But I have just moved so I haven't had time to watch it yet. I really like The Hobbit comentery so I am looking forward to watching this soon. Monoverantus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoverantus 363 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Anyone's who's got a question they'd like to ask? I've posted at least 60 and have gotten answers to about half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Can they get another host? Monoverantus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: What I've sampled so far seems interesting, but I really can't stand that host. I wonder if he’s the one who runs the TORn twitter account? Whoever does that is an awful dope. They have a real inferiority complex about other franchises. Any time there’s big news in another franchise they’re tweeting “hey don’t forget Lord of the Rings”. Lord of the Rings is better than all of them, you don’t have to do that. I haven’t gotten around to these yet but the hosts always worry me in these types of things. Chen G. and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoverantus 363 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Can they get another host? Damn, you really have it out for this guy huh? I can't really say I get why, I think he's pretty fun 2 hours ago, Bilbo said: I wonder if he’s the one who runs the TORn twitter account? Whoever does that is an awful dope. They have a real inferiority complex about other franchises. Any time there’s big news in another franchise they’re tweeting “hey don’t forget Lord of the Rings”. I think I kinda get what you mean, as much of a Tolkien fan that I am, I can't really see the appeal of joining a community that ONLY cares about LotR. Hell, it took a long time before I decided to make a profile here, for pretty much the same reason. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,953 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 10 hours ago, Bilbo said: I wonder if he’s the one who runs the TORn twitter account? Whoever does that is an awful dope. I believe that’s the other guy - the one who’s on the microphone in these commentaries. Most of the misinformation I’ve heard coming out of TheOneRing about anything (and I’ve heard plenty) came from him, rather than from Cliff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 12 hours ago, Monoverantus said: Damn, you really have it out for this guy huh? I can't really say I get why, I think he's pretty fun I think I kinda get what you mean, as much of a Tolkien fan that I am, I can't really see the appeal of joining a community that ONLY cares about LotR. Hell, it took a long time before I decided to make a profile here, for pretty much the same reason. its like Lucasfilm announced all those new Star Wars shows the other week and Torn were tweeting about how Amazon should be watching and planning to produce even more Tolkien shows. Lets wait and see how the first show turns out before getting carried away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoverantus 363 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 48 minutes ago, Bilbo said: its like Lucasfilm announced all those new Star Wars shows the other week and Torn were tweeting about how Amazon should be watching and planning to produce even more Tolkien shows. Jesus Christ... yeah fuck that Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoverantus 363 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Final part of the final chapter of the Lord of the Rings Score Stream with Doug Adams! The Return of the King, Part 2: Chen G. and Smaug The Iron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,642 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 I want the film versions of ROTK, can it be found anywhere legally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 5 hours ago, Not Mr. Big said: I want the film versions of ROTK, can it be found anywhere legally? You can buy the OST or Complete Recordings. The OST represents a highlights package of what had been written and recorded at the time of its release. The Complete Recordings is the full score for the Extended Edition of the film as Shore intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,953 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 You really need both the OST and the Complete Recordings anyway. The CR does not substitute the OST, which is a very, very good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 What do people think of this album of re-recordings? Is it right that all tracks were recorded in 2015? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 10 hours ago, Not Mr. Big said: I want the film versions of ROTK, can it be found anywhere legally? The Complete Recordings set released in 2007 (and reissued in 2018) contains everything you hear in the EE cut of the film. For music that was in the theatrical cut but got replaced by inserts or revisions in the EE, some is on the 2003 OST album, and some is on the free CD that comes with Doug's book. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kühni 485 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Typos fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 3 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: What do people think of this album of re-recordings? Is it right that all tracks were recorded in 2015? The LOTR tracks all predate 2015, and are identical to the City of Prague's recordingsfrom this 2004 release - I believe the Hobbit tracks were scattered over different sessions in the years each Hobbit score came out, but I may be wrong about that. The recordings are fine, not extraordinary and if your ear is finely tuned to know what an orchestra is supposed to do I expect you'll find some flubs. My ears aren't that picky, but I still tend to just listen to the OSTs. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 I sampled all of Prague's re-recordings of LOTR/Hobbit music and didn't find any of it worth returning to. The original performances are all better in every way. If you are looking for a shortened experience of the whole saga, you could just go on Spotify and made a playlist of the tracks by the same names from the OST albums instead of listening to their re-recordings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 I do like the instrumental versions of the songs as an oddity (they aren't just stripped of vocals and left there, I believe they have a solo instrument doubling the vocal line). But I agree with Jay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 I'm mainly looking for a collection of highlights from films 2 - 6, as those OSTs are too long for my taste. And I like to have stuff on CD. Has any other than Prague/Silva recorded compilations Shore's Middle earth music? 36 minutes ago, mstrox said: The LOTR tracks all predate 2015, and are identical to the City of Prague's recordingsfrom this 2004 release - I believe the Hobbit tracks were scattered over different sessions in the years each Hobbit score came out, but I may be wrong about that. The recordings are fine, not extraordinary and if your ear is finely tuned to know what an orchestra is supposed to do I expect you'll find some flubs. My ears aren't that picky, but I still tend to just listen to the OSTs. I checked out that older compilation once, and my impression was similar to Jay's. I was hoping they had done new, improved recordings for the most recent compilation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Reduce, reuse, recycle - it's the Silva way! Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Indeed! I kind of knew I was hoping for too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 59 minutes ago, mstrox said: I do like the instrumental versions of the songs as an oddity (they aren't just stripped of vocals and left there, I believe they have a solo instrument doubling the vocal line). But I agree with Jay. That sounds like a better version of I See Fire! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 I don't recall whether they did it for the Hobbit songs or not, tbh. I know they offered both flavors on their LOTR set, but they had more space on that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,319 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 22 hours ago, Jay said: For music that was in the theatrical cut but got replaced by inserts or revisions in the EE, some is on the 2003 OST album, and some is on the free CD that comes with Doug's book. Was the theatrical version ending of The Last Debate ever released anywhere? They totally changed that sequence for the EE, along with a revised ending. The original version has this really cool buildup to the Gondor theme as Aragorn leads the departure from Minas Tirith to the Black Gate. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,696 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Not 'released' as such, but quite a few years ago, one (at least) of the 'battle for middle earth' video games contained quite a bit of unreleased theatrical music, and it was very easily extracted, although the quality's not brilliant. It contains the alternative ending for The Last Debate, as well as the theatrical version of Sam running up the tower at Cirith Ungol. (I think it was a big mistake of PJ's to put in the Orc shot for the EE, and interrupt that great musical build-up) crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,319 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 If only they had a Rarities Vol. 2 for all these unreleased cues that everyone covets! It just feels like the single disc first volume wasn't anywhere near enough, given the amount of unreleased music composed for the trilogy. But I suspect we'll see totally updated complete score releases for all 3 films (in line with the format of modern score expansions) before that ever happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,696 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 The rarities as a concept was never intended to do what contemporary expansions do - the moment it was included in a mass-market product (relatively), it was always going to be oriented towards listening. It's been mentioned by one or two people involved in some way or another, that cues were dropped because they didn't fit with whatever 'flow' they were going for. Particularly, that the alternate Breaking of the Fellowship isn't available anywhere outside playing the DVD credits, is astonishing. I would've said that were a #1 candidate for inclusion. I'd love updated expansions as much as the next LotR fan, but I just can't see it happening. If the CRs were only revisited last year with no musical content change, I don't see the appetite from Shore nor anyone else involved, in making even more music available. Bilbo and crumbs 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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