Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 It's a bit harsh to judge him on such a short clip but when you compare it to the "Follow Me" material that was premiered in the TFA clip.... Funny end to the scene though! Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 It definitely sounds like he was going for the OT sound. 8 minutes ago, Bilbo Skywalker said: It's a bit harsh to judge him on such a short clip but when you compare it to the "Follow Me" material that was premiered in the TFA clip.... I was hooked by the Finn's theme ever since that clip, it was magical. Yeah, maybe this is the clip with the unexciting music in it, just luck of the draw for which clip they decided to release first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Music sounds pretty cool IMHO, definitely has that OT sound with a splash of Shadows of the Empire mixed in. No point getting too forensic over a 40 second clip. toothless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 964 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 nice 1 hour ago, crumbs said: with a splash of Shadows of the Empire mixed in Exactly ! Having heard some cues of shadow of the empire in concert recently, that clip reminded me of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Nice. Very Giacchino, yet definitely has the original trilogy sound to it. Those frantic strings and brass as she takes out the troopers are classic Williams technique. So damn excited for this score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 1 hour ago, crumbs said: Music sounds pretty cool IMHO, definitely has that OT sound (thanks Pope!) with a splash of Shadows of the Empire mixed in. No point getting too forensic over a 40 second clip. the music sounded too loud compared to the SFX...not a bad thing but it seems strange. Pope worked in this film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Pope? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 7 minutes ago, Luke Skywalker said: Pope worked in this film? He knew what MG was writing but it's anyone's guess if he stayed onboard after Desplat's 'departure': Quote Peter Briggs It could be a really great score, let's be charitable. He knocked it out of the ballpark with the first Trek. And he did a great replication of Barry on "Incredibles". Maybe he'll dig into his toolkit and pull out a great Williams sound. I hope. Conrad Pope It WILL be! I think the music will surprise everyone in the end--- and not just because MG is writing it. Damn those NDAs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Shore 83 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Conrad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Just now, crumbs said: I had not read that??? Amazing news, that is what i wanted! And what giacchino needed! I had only read that Williams ross was working as orchestrator, in iMBD... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 5 minutes ago, Luke Skywalker said: I had not read that??? Amazing news, that is what i wanted! And what giacchino needed! I'm not sure if Pope had any contribution to Giacchino's score, but he was definitely orchestrating Desplat's. Would be great to know if the veteran who orchestrated on Williams' three prequel scores came onboard as an orchestrator for Giacchino's score. Seems like a no-brainer, doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 or to remain onboard But one would think pope would go to the next desplat work (but maybe he could still do both) But maybe Pope was refering to William Ross which was TFA orchestrator and conductor... (maybe he has conducted this one too) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 11 minutes ago, Luke Skywalker said: or to remain onboard But one would think pope would go to the next desplat work (but maybe he could still do both) But maybe Pope was refering to William Ross which was TFA orchestrator and conductor... (maybe he has conducted this one too) People talk in the industry. There'd be plenty in the music department at Disney who worked on both versions of the score, and they'd all talk about what MG was writing. Interestingly, so far as I know Pope had nothing to do with The Force Awakens despite doing all three prequels. We all know Williams basically orchestrates his own music anyway, but perhaps he literally orchestrated most of TFA himself due to the "luxurious" schedule. The only orchestrator for TFA listed on iMDB is William Ross, who conducted several action cues when Williams couldn't. Would be nice to see Pope return for Episode VIII; he's an excellent conductor as well. Guess it depends what schedule JW gets next time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviazn 273 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 2 hours ago, RPurton said: It definitely sounds like he was going for the OT sound. 2 hours ago, crumbs said: Music sounds pretty cool IMHO, definitely has that OT sound with a splash of Shadows of the Empire mixed in. 33 minutes ago, leeallen01 said: Nice. Very Giacchino, yet definitely has the original trilogy sound to it. Those frantic strings and brass as she takes out the troopers are classic Williams technique. Hate to be a downer, but sorry, don't hear it at all. Sounds nothing like Williams or the OT—no direction or development to the material. Sounds just standard Giacchino, but with even more copy/paste. It's almost as if they only gave him like four weeks to write the score or something. To me, it does, however, sound vaguely like Call of Duty—which is basically what I was hoping he'd do, instead of trying to emulate Williams (wasn't a fan of Jurassic World). So there's that. Yay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Just now, aviazn said: It's almost as if they only gave him like four weeks to write the score or something. Hehehe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviazn 273 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Honestly, that clip has entirely killed all of my enthusiasm for this movie. I want to be excited, but I just can't right now. (I reserve the right to change my mind.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 7 minutes ago, aviazn said: Honestly, that clip has entirely killed all of my enthusiasm for this movie. I want to be excited, but I just can't right now. (I reserve the right to change my mind.) I was never really excited for this film. The only thing going for it for me is the score... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Finally, the only things exciting in this movie are the cameos... The old JW themes, the Darth Vader cameo, the Mon Mothma cameo, Bail Organa... what else... maybe R2? Here's the original poster of Rogue One: Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Giacchino be like "member Williams." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,317 Posted December 1, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2016 Christ, the cynicism on JWFAN gets tiring sometimes. If the film looks so shit, why even bother replying to a thread specifically about the film's score? Giacchino is no Williams (who is?), but at least his music has a modicum of artistry compared to the mass-produced, library-sampled, synthesized rubbish that passes for "film music" nowadays. Pieter Boelen, Alan, Damien F and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Immediately recognizable as Giacchino! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 0:25 Da da da dee dee dee da da da DADADADEE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 57 minutes ago, leeallen01 said: Giacchino be like "member Williams." I member ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 18 minutes ago, Jay said: I member ! A member of what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 It's a South Park reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Goldmember. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviazn 273 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 1 hour ago, crumbs said: If the film looks so shit, why even bother replying to a thread specifically about the film's score? Because the score sounds shit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymenard 54 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Those last 4 notes in the clip are the exact sames ones when Luke and Leia are stopped at the Death Star chasm. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 That last part sounded especially Williamsian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 964 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Watching this clip I thought : the film was almost picture locked when Gia worked on it, right ? So maybe it will feel like the music fits perfectly in every scenes. This is something absent from many major blockbusters. The last one was TFA. And it was cool. crumbs and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Are you joking? TFA was continuously and heavily edited after Williams began scoring it. Many of his compositions are chopped up and moved around in the final film. But yes, none of that is certainly really noticeable when watching - only when you analyze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 I think that's what he meant. toothless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Hmmm, probably true. toothless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Unlike the Prequels, TLW etc I don't notice the edits when I watch the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Other than the moment clearly tracked in from the original Star Wars score, I don't really either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 964 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 39 minutes ago, Jay said: Are you joking? TFA was continuously and heavily edited after Williams began scoring it. Many of his compositions are chopped up and moved around in the final film. But yes, none of that is certainly really noticeable when watching - only when you analyze. I know that, but Williams Had time to rewrite and adapt. And at the end of the day, the score fits quite well. Whereas numerous blockbuster have generic music thrown in the background for no reason. Williams music in TFA was really close to the editing of scenes and matched both the emotion and what happened on screen. For exemple I really like how the music is mickey mousing the stormtroopers death when the resistance arrives in maz planet. (I'm not saying I want mickeymousing at every turns ) https://youtu.be/jHtiEi52KPY?t=59s 0:59 - 1:07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Yea, I totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Holy crap. I could have just about jumped through the roof when I saw this this morning. Unfortunately, I'm at school and won't be able to watch until I get home, but wow ... can't believe we're getting new SW music. So excited to hear some of Gia's work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 It's 40 seconds of Gia's action music. Trust me when I tell you you'll live. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 1, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2016 Just now, Bilbo Skywalker said: It's 40 seconds of Gia's action music. Will, Bilbo and Cerebral Cortex 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 I really hope @toothless is right about the music not being edited much. That would be so cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 The Cover art is now up on amazon.com https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LY2IX2D/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 $21,50 shipping cost! Ridiculous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 but its just 12 $ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 I guess that was the real cover art, then. I doubt Amazon would put up a fake. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 1 minute ago, Jay said: I guess that was the real cover art, then. I doubt Amazon would put up a fake. What was that JW cover which Sandor made and in ended up on Amazon? The War Horse? Tintin? Lincoln? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 it was Tintin and I don't think it was Amazon, but a different site. Can't remember now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 I seem to recall it was Amazon. And it was Roald, not Sandor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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