Disney Records has reissued the original Star Wars OST albums - Sony's contract is over! [digital/streaming releases only]

[Jay 43,911]

2 minutes ago, Bespin said:

 

Who do you think type these infos into databases?

 

Milleniums.

 

So errors, there are.

 

Do you mean millennials? 

[Bespin Copilot 10,069]

1 minute ago, Demodex said:

I really don't understand why they just don't release an Ultimate Edition for SW Ep 2, 3, and 7. They would sell like crazy. 

 

ULTIMATE??? NEVER AGAIN PLEASE!!!

 

Just now, Jay said:

 

Do you mean millennials? 

 

ah, we say millenium in french, sorry.

[Will 2,380]

3 hours ago, crumbs said:

 

Listen to this until the end of the big fanfare at around 2:00:

 

Then listen to this:

 

Notice the huge differences in clarity, directionality of the orchestra, and just a general feeling of not having your head dunked underwater? You can actually decipher instruments rather than just hearing a muddy blanket of sound.

 

Mind you, there are far worse offenders on the ROTJ SE...

 

Crumbs, I must admit that I am not hearing the difference. I am in a quiet room wearing headphones. I listened to each several times. Maybe some sort of blind listening test would have been better, I don't know. But in any case I don't hear what you're referring to. 

 

Maybe the YouTube quality just isn't good enough?

 

Will - preparing for the onslaught of face palm GIFs to begin 

[Jay 43,911]

youtube compresses the shit out of everything.  Compare on Spotify

[Will 2,380]

6 minutes ago, Jay said:

youtube compresses the shit out of everything.  Compare on Spotify

 

Will do. I only have the free Spotify which is 160 kbps but that's still better than YouTube. I do have the SE in lossless, but I don't have the new OST remaster downloaded so it wouldn't be a fair comparison there. 

 

EDIT: Maybe it's still too compressed at 160 kbps - I'm not hearing it. I'll try again later as I am leaving home now. 

[Richard P 4,952]

I just compared those two on Spotify, and Endor does indeed sound crap. It's not compressed-sounding, as in bitrate, it just sounds really muddy, and the individual instruments don't stand out.

[Jay 43,911]

I think @Will needs better headphones

[Disco Stu 15,514]

Yeah man, get a pair of good headphones and turn them up loud.  Even on Youtube it's like night and day between those two clips.

 

Here's a random aside: Does anyone know if someone has ever made a good solo piano arrangement of "Into the Trap"?  On this listen it strikes me that it could be a really exciting piece to hear on just piano.

 

EDIT: Found this one on Youtube, but it's not very good.  The piece needs to be given a fiery performance.  This one's a little boring.

 

 

[Manakin Skywalker 5,729]

1 hour ago, Demodex said:

I really don't understand why they just don't release an Ultimate Edition for SW Ep 2, 3, and 7. They would sell like crazy. 

Fuck that. The backlash from that release is probably why Sony never made ones for Ep 2-3 in the first place.

[BloodBoal 7,545]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

Do you mean millennials? 

 

He meant aluminium.

[Naïve Old Fart 12,157]

Transparent, or non- transparent?

[Manakin Skywalker 5,729]

Translucent.

[Will 2,380]

Maybe I'm not playing the clips loud enough? (I don't play my music blastingly loud)

 

I think the headphones are probably fine. They're pretty cheap, but @Rose Dawson seemed to think they were fine when I mentioned them, if not the best that exists! 

 

I'll try again soon. 

 

EDIT: Well, still not hearing it. I give up. 

[Manakin Skywalker 5,729]

I'm not even wearing headphones and I can hear a difference. The SE one is definitely more muddy, and the 'new' version is much sharper.

[Will 2,380]

1 minute ago, Manikin Skywalker said:

I'm not even wearing headphones and I can hear a difference. The SE one is definitely more muddy, and the 'new' version is much sharper.

 

Yeah, well, I'm sure your ears are better trained or something. Hopefully eventually my ears will become that good. We'll see. 

[Manakin Skywalker 5,729]

Clear your mind must be!

[RICHARDSTRAUSS68 107]

1 minute ago, Will said:

 

Yeah, well, I'm sure your ears are better trained or something. Hopefully eventually my ears will become that good. We'll see. 

but you're a mouse  are you the cousin of the savior Micky? Legend says he will bring us complete recordings of our favorite soundtracks as well as theatrical versions of our films that have been clouded by CGI

[Will 2,380]

5 minutes ago, dillweed97 said:

but you're a mouse  are you the cousin of the savior Micky? Legend says he will bring us complete recordings of our favorite soundtracks as well as theatrical versions of our films that have been clouded by CGI

 

Alas I am a Universal mouse, not a Disney one:

 

http://www.singmovie.com/characters/mike

 

[Demodex 583]

2 hours ago, Manikin Skywalker said:

Fuck that. The backlash from that release is probably why Sony never made ones for Ep 2-3 in the first place.

 

That's a shame because now there is so much unreleased music from those films. 

[Manakin Skywalker 5,729]

Just now, Demodex said:

 

That's a shame because now there is so much unreleased music from those films. 

Well, like the title of the post says, fortunately Sony's reign of terror is finally over.

[DominicCobb 195]

I'm no audiophile and the difference is obvious, with or without headphones. The SE sounds like it went through a blender.

[Demodex 583]

5 minutes ago, Manikin Skywalker said:

Well, like the title of the post says, fortunately Sony's reign of terror is finally over.

 

Well let's hope for Ultimate Editions

[Manakin Skywalker 5,729]

53 minutes ago, Demodex said:

 

Well let's hope for Ultimate Editions

No, not Ultimate Editions... complete scores! That's the dream.

[crumbs 15,771]

Even through my tablet's tinny speakers the sound difference is obvious, with the brass especially. You might want to invest in better audio equipment Will. Are your headphones Apple earpods or something equally rubbish? 

[Manakin Skywalker 5,729]

[Will 2,380]

26 minutes ago, Manikin Skywalker said:

 

 

33 minutes ago, crumbs said:

Even through my tablet's tinny speakers the sound difference is obvious, with the brass especially. You might want to invest in better audio equipment Will. Are your headphones Apple earpods or something equally rubbish? 

 

I think perhaps I just don't know what to listen for. Or my ears are rubbish. Or perhaps there is a psychological problem: some sort of listening bias and/or I'm overthinking things in some way. 

 

Here are what I was listening on:

 

https://www.koss.com/headphones/over-ear-headphones/ur29

 

By the way @Manikin Skywalker I love your signature. LOL at the new "help us MM" one, as well as of course the classic "more xylophone" one. 

[DominicCobb 195]

Try using q-tips.

[Will 2,380]

13 minutes ago, DominicCobb said:

Try using q-tips.

 

Hmm... I'm not sure if you're joking or not but might actually be worth a try. 

[crumbs 15,771]

Q-tips are really bad for your ears, you may want to think about ear syringing.

 

I get mine done at least yearly and the difference to my hearing is unbelievable.

[Will 2,380]

17 minutes ago, crumbs said:

Q-tips are really bad for your ears.

 

Yeah, I was thinking of noting that but figured I might get made fun of or something LOL. But, yes, my dad is always saying that. 

 

17 minutes ago, crumbs said:

You may want to think about ear syringing.

 

I get mine done at least yearly and the difference to my hearing is unbelievable.

 

Hmm... This website - http://www.oldschoolsurgery.org.uk/ear_syringing.html - says that should be a last resort ... but it does recommend some sort of at-home olive oil treatment. Sounds like one of those things that people say works but never actually works, but might be worth a try. I do remember waking up last week with sounds a little muffled. Maybe there is blockage.

 

Still, though, could that really cause me to completely not notice something everyone here says is obvious? It doesn't seem that bad. I never would have even thought it might be a real problem until today's ROTJ discussion... I still wonder if the reason is really psychological somehow. 

 

And, OK, maybe I'd better stop talking about this now before all the "Ew!!" comments start rolling in. 

[Manakin Skywalker 5,729]

14 minutes ago, Will said:

And, OK, maybe I'd better stop talking about this now before all the "Ew!!" comments start rolling in. 

Eeeeewwwwwwwwww!!!!

[Xander Harris 8,497]

So Disney is releasing physical copies of the remastered OSTs? We really only need SW and especially ESB.

[Will 2,380]

54 minutes ago, Rose Dawson said:

So Disney is releasing physical copies of the remastered OSTs? 

 

Not confirmed yet AFAIK. It would be a logical step, though. 

 

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I'm starting to think I might be able to hear the ROTJ difference ... but it's not blind testing, the difference doesn't seem huge, and I'd say there's a very good chance it's just bias (since I was told the OST sounded better, it sounded better). The OST does seem a teeny bit "brighter" and less muffled. 

[Xander Harris 8,497]

Well I, for one, just want to say thank you, Sony, for all that you've done for us over the years. I'm still using the screensavers! My favorite release remains The Phantom Menace Ultimate Edition. At last, every single note Williams composed.

 

[Arpy 4,218]

I didn't know they released TPM UE in a jewel-case!

[Xander Harris 8,497]

Only a select few of us have them.

[Arpy 4,218]

I actually prefer the cardboard packaging with the booklet inside. If the music wasn't ultimate, they made the packaging so.

[Amer 2,643]

14 hours ago, TownerFan said:

 

I guess she was in the loop for all the approval. However, I think there are other people at Lucasfilm dealing directly with consumer products and assets strategies.

 

 

I think she is involved with overseeing John Williams related projects. Both She and Frank Marshall joint twitter account had promoted the LLL JURASSIC PARK set. So I guess STAR WARS would be of some significant interest to her, and I know she was so personally fond of Williams JURASSIC PARK Score!

 

7 hours ago, Demodex said:

 

That's a shame because now there is so much unreleased music from those films. 

 

Shawn Murphy said that they had plans to do the Ultimate Editions for Episode II & III but were aborted.

[crumbs 15,771]

Let's hope LLL had the good sense to send her a promotional copy then! Maybe with a little note attached, "PLEASE LET US DO STAR WARS!"

 

18 minutes ago, azahid said:

I know she was so personally fond of Williams JURASSIC PARK Score!

 

[Arpy 4,218]

Expanded scores seem like a no-brainer. Disney will never stop milking the Star Wars cow. It might even come to be that we face repackage after repackage of the expanded scores every 10 years.

[Mr. Breathmask 623]

5 hours ago, RPurton said:

Expanded scores seem like a no-brainer. Disney will never stop milking the Star Wars cow.

 

I keep reading this. It's such a contradiction.

 

Expanding these scores takes a considerable investment. Repackaging doesn't and people will still lap that shit up because it's Star Wars. Sure, they could still be willing to shell out for an expansion, but at this point, we just don't know what the plans are.

 

I wish I could share the optimism you guys are feeling at this news. Honestly, I see no news other than Disney making use of Sony's rights expiring. 

[Arpy 4,218]

Oh I'm certain Disney will rerelease the shit out of the standard OST's but at the same time they're not treating their fans like total morons, sooner or later they're going to have to release something new. I'm optimistic for expanded sets because they've been gaining traction elsewhere and they're selling well.

[Jay 43,911]

If Disney had hired someone else to run Lucasfilm I'd be less optimistic, but the fact that its Kathleen Kennedy in charge gives me hope.

[Xander Harris 8,497]

Not me.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 11,277]

I doubt she even knows who Williams is.

[mstrox 7,281]

He's the timpani player, right?

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 11,277]

Women generally have no idea who Williams is. Thats why this place is such a huge sausage party.

[Disco Stu 15,514]

4 minutes ago, Stefancos said:

Women generally have no idea who Williams is. Thats why this place is such a huge sausage party.

 

Perhaps more women than you know lurk here for a bit and decide it's not welcoming?

 

Obviously I have no idea, just an alternate theory.

[Bilbo 4,049]

I just assumed someone here scares them all away.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 11,277]

Women? Here? Where???

 

I'm single and availeble, gals!