Taikomochi 1,201 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I haven’t yet seen TLJ but I remember several moments in TFA where I assumed there were micro edits, especially in the first track, and found out while watching the film that that was the way it was written! (And I know there are micro edits in that track, but the actual edits I did not notice immediately) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,376 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Its been known for 2 years now Rey's theme is based on aspects of The Force Theme. 1 minute ago, Taikomochi said: I haven’t yet seen TLJ but I remember several moments in TFA where I assumed there were micro edits, especially in the first track, and found out while watching the film that that was the way it was written! (And I know there are micro edits in that track, but the actual edits I did not notice immediately) I felt pretty sure all the Kylo Ren and Resistance March stuff in the opening was tracked in when i saw the film. ocelot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,108 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I will say, as with TFA, the Hollywood musicians dont make me miss the LSO. A very strong performance. And it sounds like the opening title March is just the TFA reused? Remco 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chen G. 4,476 Posted December 14, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, El Jefe said: the Hollywood musicians dont make me miss the LSO. Oh, I do. Bilbo, fatehbaz, Mathieu and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,679 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 16 minutes ago, Stefancos said: While I'm sure there are microedits, since they appear in virtually every JW OST, I doubt they are the reason it sounds so frantic. It actually plays very much like I remember it in the film. But all Prequels , especially TPM , were hacked to death in the film too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,081 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 35 minutes ago, Stefancos said: It fits with the rest of the score though, which is full of sudden transitions, tempo changes, key changes etc. It sounds like John Williams on meth! That’s the best description of this score. He should do more meth. Jacck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,376 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Well Rian Johnson did direct Breaking Bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,208 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Clever, bitch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,376 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Don't call me a bitch! That's not very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Remco 687 Posted December 14, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 14, 2017 The performance of the LA orchestra is simply outstanding, I don’t see how anyone could question that. Especially now it’s mixed in a way that’s more close to the prequel scores, I thought it would please those who “miss” the LSO. I don’t want to sound like a dick, but it’s kind of funny that there’s this endless debate about the sound difference between two world class orchestras, when quite some members here couldn’t tell that the Verizon commercial music had synth in it. Ollie, justaguy, Taikomochi and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,376 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 The recording is less refined than TFA's, which had stellar clarity. But it does sound MASSIVE! Jacck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justaguy 68 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Remco said: The performance of the LA orchestra is simply outstanding, I don’t see how anyone could question that. Especially now it’s mixed in a way that’s more close to the prequel scores, I thought it would please those who “miss” the LSO. I don’t want to sound like a dick, but it’s kind of funny that there’s this endless debate about the sound difference between two world class orchestras, when quite some members here couldn’t tell that the Verizon commercial music had synth in it. Right on. It all comes down to mix/mastering/recording techniques. Not so much to the players themselves. Album sounds GREAT and performances are world-class. Jacck and Remco 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,376 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Any final word yet on the Star Wars opening being reused or not from TFA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,882 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Stefancos said: Any final word yet on the Star Wars opening being reused or not from TFA? It's from the Verizon commercial. Ollie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remco 687 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Yeah I must say that’s very strange. In cinema the opening made a far bigger impact than I remember with TFA, but the recording on album sounds like it’s the same. More royalties to Dudamel..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,169 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Still not able to hear the full score, but 3 pieces are now on youtube so I can get my fix a little. Almost flipped out when I heard Yoda's theme in Sacred Jedi Texts! And I feel like I should know what this is at 1:43 - 2:05. Is it trying to be Yoda? Rey? Anakin's theme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,376 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 The films credits list Williams and Ross as conductors, not Dudamel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remco 687 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Imagine if he finds out that his recording is on the TLJ album as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,882 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, Remco said: Yeah I must say that’s very strange. In cinema the opening made a far bigger impact than I remember with TFA, but the recording on album sounds like it’s the same. They probably cranked the volume up to eleven at your local cinema. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,376 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Dolby Atmos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,882 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 ...or brick walling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,308 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Stefancos said: It fits with the rest of the score though, which is full of sudden transitions, tempo changes, key changes etc. It sounds like John Williams on meth! True. Plays more like a mixture of JW's greatest hits in the action department, a collection of variations on Williams most reliable action riffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remco 687 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: They probably cranked the volume up to eleven at your local cinema. Ha, well they certainly did. Still it sounded like a different recording, which makes sense given RJ has said that they re-recorded it. But maybe I misheard it in all my excitement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,376 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, KK said: True. Plays more like a mixture of JW's greatest hits in the action department, a collection of variations on Williams most reliable action riffs. And you don't like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,495 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 2 hours ago, Damien F said: I like the score a lot but Chrome Dome is such an uninteresting action cue. I like it, a lot. Taikomochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,308 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, Stefancos said: And you don't like that? I like the score. I like its energy. I just wish it had something stronger to tie it all together, or more of its own personality. TFA wins in that department. filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jost1 105 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 The action music in TLJ could be the strongest since the OT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KK 3,308 Posted December 14, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 14, 2017 Just now, RadJ said: The action music in TLJ could be the strongest since the OT Chase Through Coruscant >>>>>>>>> Everything and anything in TFA and TLJ justaguy, Bilbo and Tiburon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remco 687 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 “Chase through Coruscant” says hi, though. But yes, it is really great action material! Edit: oh, you beat me to it!! Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 2,151 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 8 minutes ago, KK said: Chase Through Coruscant >>>>>>>>> Everything and anything in TFA and TLJ Well, I would go even earlier to Asteroid Field. But yes, i agree with this too. Mathieu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,308 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I don't think anyone would argue that. I was just trying to make the point that I don't think the TLJ offers anything to rival some of the prequels' best. filmmusic and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,541 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 10 minutes ago, KK said: The Droid Battle >>>>>>>>> Everything and anything in TFA and TLJ Agreed! Tiburon and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jost1 105 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, KK said: I don't think anyone would argue that. I was just trying to make the point that I don't think the TLJ's highlights rival some of the prequels' best. Eh, I've never been a massive fan of AOTC - score or movie. I mean it's Williams, so it's GOOD. But probably my least favorite of the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 2,151 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Just now, RadJ said: Eh, I've never been a massive fan of AOTC - score or movie. I mean it's Williams, so it's GOOD. But probably my least favorite of the series. of ALL the series? My ranking would be something like this: ESB -> ANH -> ROTJ -> ROTS -> TPM -> AOTC -> TFA -> TLJ justaguy and Mathieu 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,308 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: Agreed! Amen! 2 minutes ago, filmmusic said: of ALL the series? My ranking would be something like this: ESB -> ANH -> ROTJ -> ROTS -> TPM -> AOTC -> TFA -> TLJ Once again, we see eye to eye! Although ROTS and TPM switch places occasionally, depending on my mood. filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jost1 105 Posted December 14, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 14, 2017 8 minutes ago, filmmusic said: of ALL the series? If we're talking score...yes If we're talking movies...also yes. Sorry I just think as a whole I've enjoyed the SEQUEL trilogy scores more than the prequel trilogy ones. The prequel trilogy scores have a lot of razzle dazzle big theme concert pieces, but I prefer the type of leitmotif scoring that's in TFA and TLJ. That's not to say that a single one of these scores haven't been the best score to come out the entire year they were released, because that's pretty much always the case (except for maybe 77 when Close Encounters also came out) John, Taikomochi and Remco 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joni Wiljami 1,208 Posted December 14, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 14, 2017 People are making lists already, after few days And probably not seen the film ahd have heard 50% ofvthe musicbut they love each others opinions Pieter Boelen, DarthDementous, Remco and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jost1 105 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Seen the film, but I will obviously need more time to let TLJ grow on me But I loved it and it was very much in the same style as TFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 2,151 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 15 minutes ago, hornist said: People are making lists already, after few days And probably not seen the film ahd have heard 50% ofvthe musicbut they love each others opinions AS I've said in another forum: If I said that the score is a masterpiece and the greatest ever, noone would have a problem, and noone would tell me "please, let it grow on you to see if it's indeed a masterpiece" etc. By the way, aren't you the one that had listened to some seconds of the Book Thief and evaluated it as the greatest Williams score ever? Or was it someone else? I may be mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,308 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 1 minute ago, filmmusic said: By the way, aren't yout he one that had heard some seconds of the Book Thief and evaluated as the greatest Williams score ever? Or was it someone else?I may be mistaken. Yup, pretty sure that was him. For hornist, every Williams score that comes out is the greatest thing since sliced bread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,156 Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 I listened to some random album tracks this morning on my way in to work. I think whoever pointed this out earlier was right: "The Rebellion Is Reborn", from 0:00-1:28 sounds like a film cue. The rest of the track IS clearly concert/album material. Either a full concert arrangement, or an "album extension" of some kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,317 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, filmmusic said: If I said that the score is a masterpiece and the greatest ever, noone would have a problem, and noone would tell me "please, let it grow on you to see if it's indeed a masterpiece" etc. Actually, I don't think that's true at all, specially not on this MB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,882 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, KK said: Yup, pretty sure that was him. For hornist, every Williams score that comes out is the greatest thing since sliced bread! Sliced bread is overrated. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 2,151 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Jay said: I listened to some random album tracks this morning on my way in to work. I think whoever pointed this out earlier was right: "The Rebellion Is Reborn", from 0:00-1:28 sounds like a film cue. The rest of the track IS clearly concert/album material. Either a full concert arrangement, or an "album extension" of some kind. well, the introduction also sounds like a formal concert introduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remco 687 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, filmmusic said: AS I've said in another forum: If I said that the score is a masterpiece and the greatest ever, noone would have a problem, and noone would tell me "please, let it grow on you to see if it's indeed a masterpiece" etc. Enough people around here would do that, I get the impression. Anyway, I think it’s too early to call it either a masterpiece or place it as anyone’s least favorite score. I don’t like to do these kind of rankings anyway, but that’s another story. Taikomochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,156 Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 1 minute ago, filmmusic said: well, the introduction also sounds like a formal concert introduction. You think so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,882 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Just now, filmmusic said: well, the introduction also sounds like a formal concert introduction. If I remember correctly, several of the tracks on TPM one disc release also sound like partial concert versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FC4L 87 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 3 tracks in and it's beautiful. How it builds on TFA themes brings them into cohesion much better I feel. 13.5 hours and I'll know how it all fits together! Jost1 and Remco 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 2,151 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 8 minutes ago, Jay said: You think so? Yes.There are many bars of introduction to the theme, and it doesn't seem to me that something like this would be in the film. But I may be proven wrong. It's just an evaluation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jost1 105 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, FC4L said: 3 tracks in and it's beautiful. How it builds on TFA themes brings them into cohesion much better I feel. 13.5 hours and I'll know how it all fits together! Hell yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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