The Last Jedi THE LAST JEDI - OST Album MUSIC Discussion (No Movie Spoilers)

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415]

On first listen it feels like underscore build around existing themes, not a while load of new themes. Though we do have Rose's Theme and the new First Order march.

[Obi 409]

I just saw the movie and I listen the score now.

 

It's amazing, great, I'm in heaven!!

[King Mark 3,713]

There was something about the TFA action music that felt a bit off , like Jakku Village Massacre and cues like Follow me and The Falcon. I could never get into those cues

 

The action music in TLJ seems music more old style JW and exciting

[filmmusic 2,195]

1 minute ago, Stefancos said:

On first listen it feels like underscore build around existing themes, not a while load of new themes. Though we do have Rose's Theme and the new First Order march.

in what track?

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415]

Revisiting Snoke.

[mrbellamy 6,753]

24 minutes ago, Jay said:

Poe's Theme isn't on the OST.

 

Yes it is! "Peace and Purpose" at 1:54.

 

And as somebody else said, I think there's a hint of it coming out of that first new Resistance March statement in "Main Title and Escape" but a little more arguable. Those 4 notes at 3:09 just remind me of it in "The Resistance", but it's a weird one because it also follows a similar shape to how the Resistance March melody continues....but not exactly. I think it's closer to Poe's Theme. So if it's a Poe moment, then I think it could be Williams finding a very subtle little connection there between both. 

[Breadstick Basilisk 108]

5 minutes ago, Stefancos said:

Revisiting Snoke.

 

Unless you're hearing something I'm not, that's one of Kylo's themes from TFA.

[Jay 39,429]

OK I'll check those places out in a bit!

[publicist 4,647]

Oh. Williams is having fun again. Nothing new or unique in the slightest but compared to the draggy, underscore-y TFA this sounds like caffeine rush. Nice.

[Breadstick Basilisk 108]

2 minutes ago, mrbellamy said:

Yes it is! "Peace and Purpose" at 1:54.

 

Nice catch!

[KK 3,308]

There is more energy to TLJ, but a lot of it is rather anonymous, isn't it? It's sort of like he wrote TFA: Theme and Variation, except even in that department, it's not all terribly interesting.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415]

2 minutes ago, publicist said:

Oh. Williams is having fun again. Nothing new or unique in the slightest but compared to the draggy, underscore-y TFA this sounds like caffeine rush. Nice.

 

Yes!

[King Mark 3,713]

The Fathiers reminds me of something out of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. And has the best action version of Rose's Theme on the album

[KK 3,308]

3 minutes ago, mrbellamy said:

 

Yes it is! "Peace and Purpose" at 1:54.

 

Neat! For some reason I thought that was Rey's theme. Good cue, that one.

[Breadstick Basilisk 108]

Does anyone know what the horn triplet theme/motif is at 3:34 in "Main Title and Escape" and 1:32 in "The Battle of Crait" (and maybe other places too)? Is that just a shared motif or does it seem to be associated with a character?

 

Also, different musical material but 4:48 and 3:33 in the same two tracks (respectively) are also the same.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415]

6 minutes ago, Breadstick Basilisk said:

@Stefancos That's one of Kylo's themes from TFA.

 

It reappears in the end credits. Its either a First Order march or a new Resistance theme

[Breadstick Basilisk 108]

Got a timestamp?

[publicist 4,647]

1 minute ago, KK said:

There is more energy to TLJ, but a lot of it is rather anonymous, isn't it? It's sort of like he wrote TFA: Theme and Variation.

 

Maybe i just don't expect much from Star Wars music but i don't mind that truly breathtaking highlights like the Hoth battle or the whole cloud city finale are a thing of the past (the prequels also substituted only occasionally). As far as the pure entertainment factor is concerned, this is the best a 2017 commercial franchise score could possibly be. 

[bollemanneke 3,593]

Couldn't resist, listened to the first half. Really like the score as a whole, especially the stately parts. He has to start writing episode 9 before it's too late.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415]

2 minutes ago, publicist said:

 

Maybe i just don't expect much from Star Wars music but i don't mind that truly breathtaking highlights like the Hoth battle or the whole cloud city finale are a thing of the past (the prequels also substituted only occasionally). As far as the pure entertainment factor is concerned, this is the best a 2017 commercial franchise score could possibly be. 

 

It's an incredibly energetic and vibrant score in both writing and performance!

 

We probably won't get as many concert pieces from this as TFA. And it possible doesn't have that scores highlights. But the average seems to be higher.

 

Williams was certainly firing on all cilinders.

[King Mark 3,713]

The sound quality seems above average too

[KK 3,308]

12 minutes ago, publicist said:

As far as the pure entertainment factor is concerned, this is the best a 2017 commercial franchise score could possibly be. 

 

This much is true.

 

Perhaps if TLJ only had a stronger central identity, I might enjoy it a lot more. I'm sure replays will help.

[Cerebral Cortex 3,358]

I'm trying to avoid spoilers regarding the film and score, but I can't help but ask: do we get any Luke and Leia's theme reprisals? 

[publicist 4,647]

I will see tomorrow what's missing from the album. 

[Jay 39,429]

I just had the epiphany that while the OST might not feature any concert arrangements besides The Rebellion is Reborn, Williams will surely create a  concert suite for live concerts, and Lockhart or someone else will probably do a recording of them all for CD!

[King Mark 3,713]

Just now, KK said:

 

This much is true.

 

If TLJ only had a stronger central identity, I would probably enjoy it a lot more. I'm sure replays will help.

 

i''ll say it again. The full score will reveal it's full identity

 

Like I didn't even like Revenge of the Sith on my first album listen and it turned out great when we got the unreleased music

Just now, Jay said:

I just had the epiphany that while the OST might not feature any concert arrangements besides The Rebellion is Reborn, Williams will surely create a  concert suite for live concerts, and Lockhart or someone else will probably do a recording of them all for CD!

 yes, i think so too

[Jay 39,429]

3 minutes ago, Cerebral Cortex said:

I'm trying to avoid spoilers regarding the film and score, but I can't help but ask: do we get any Luke and Leia's theme reprisals? 

 

Yes, in track #17.

[mrbellamy 6,753]

13 minutes ago, KK said:

Neat! For some reason I thought that was Rey's theme. Good cue, that one.

 

They are similar enough, to be fair. I remember in 2015 a lot of us thinking that was Rey's theme in "I Can Fly Anything".

 

And yeah, the orchestration in "Peace and Purpose" is similar to how he usually treats Rey's theme. But unmistakably Poe's once you're listening for it.

[Jay 39,429]

1 minute ago, mrbellamy said:

They are similar enough, to be fair. I remember in 2015 a lot of us thinking that was Rey's theme in "I Can Fly Anything".

 

Really?

[filmmusic 2,195]

22 minutes ago, Stefancos said:

Revisiting Snoke.

? Ι don't hear any new theme here.

Jay too didn't mention anything in his brief description.

[KK 3,308]

I believe Steef is just referring to the Kylo Ren material, which we've already heard in TFA.

[Giftheck 1,023]

"Canto Bight" is very much a wacky "Cantina Band"esque piece. I like it!

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415]

Its the march in the middle of the end credits, after Leia's theme

[Cerebral Cortex 3,358]

3 minutes ago, Jay said:

 

Yes, in track #17.

 

Thanks a lot, bud. 

[Breadstick Basilisk 108]

1 minute ago, Stefancos said:

Its the march in the middle of the end credits, after Leia's theme

 

But that's not in "Snoke Revisited"... I think that's the secondary material in "The Rebellion Is Reborn"?

[filmmusic 2,195]

1 minute ago, Stefancos said:

Its the march in the middle of the end credits, after Leia's theme

Ok. I see now.

This isn't in Revisiting Snow.

Just now, Breadstick Basilisk said:

 

But that's not in "Snoke Revisited"... I think that's the secondary material in "The Rebellion Is Reborn"?

Yes

[KK 3,308]

1 minute ago, Stefancos said:

Its the march in the middle of the end credits, after Leia's theme

 

Oh, one of the new themes from "Rebellion is Reborn"? Is that what some here have referred to as "Holdo's Theme"?

[leeallen01 2,176]

You guys are killing me! I can't believe I have to wait til friday for my CD to arrive!!! 

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415]

3 minutes ago, KK said:

 

Oh, one of the new themes from "Rebellion is Reborn"? Is that what some here have referred to as "Holdo's Theme"?

 

Could be. I only listened to the OST once

[Breadstick Basilisk 108]

"Canto Bight" is incredible. So so glad we got some JW source music this time around.

[Jay 39,429]

I think "The Rebellion Is Reborn" is a concert arrangement featuring both Rose's Theme and Holdo's Theme.

 

 

In the end credits, after the opening part from all the other movies, we basically get a Rose's Theme arrangement followed by a Holdo's Theme arrangement, but its awkwardly interrupted by the Priness Leia piano bit in between them.  I wonder if originally, there was a more elegant segue from one to the other.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415]

It sounds very much like a concert track yes.

[Damien F 1,773]

I wonder was Carrie's dedication at another place and moved there at the last minute, hence the awkward segue.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415]

The end credits sound very patch-worky. Much like a lot of the score actually.

 

I thought in the film it sounded tracked. Turns out it was written that way.

[filmmusic 2,195]

9 minutes ago, Jay said:

I think "The Rebellion Is Reborn" is a concert arrangement featuring both Rose's Theme and Holdo's Theme.

 

I would say it's music for a scene, and has an album extension. We'll see.

[Damien F 1,773]

The Rebellion Is Reborn could possibly score a montage sequence. 

[Jay 39,429]

The way that track ends is undoubtedly a concert arrangement / album only thing, not a way you'd ever end a score cue.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415]

Just now, Jay said:

The way that track ends is undoubtedly a concert arrangement / album only thing, not a way you'd ever end a score cue.

 

Well, this score does have the end of Yoda's concert theme as underscore....

[mrbellamy 6,753]

Ok I'm totally loving "The Fathiers". Rose's theme at 1:26-1:48 is a great Williams moment. And I love that weird chord in the trumpets at 1:38.

[Jay 39,429]

1 minute ago, Stefancos said:

Well, this score does have the end of Yoda's concert theme as underscore....

 

 

Yea, and it doesn't sound very good does it?