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I am able.

AVATAR is one of Horner's greatest works, period.

Indeed. Powell would be great too.   If I genuinely had the choice, I'd choose David Arnold because it's not like JNH and Powell are on a career dip, but Arnold deserves to share in these bi

43 minutes ago, Stefancos said:

Usually my eyes adjust to 3D after 5 minutes and I don't notice it anymore. Unless its badly done.

 

Its JAMES bloody CAMERON. The story may or may not be great, but the use of 3D is most likely going to be top-notch.

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On 1/3/2018 at 1:34 PM, Thor said:

The adventure films is one thing, but the reason I'd pick him is his fantastic gift of creating broad textures that combine electronics and orchestra, often with an ethnic tinge. This is the main "Avatar sound", IMO. I can easily hear shades of tracks like "The Pure Spirits of the Forest" and "The Biolumiscence of the Night" in tracks like, say, "Swimming" from WATERWORLD (my favourite JNH and his magnum opus):

 

 

 

Thor, was wondering how you would have felt about Hans Zimmer scoring this rather than Franglen? I know you are partial to some of his work. Do you think he would have been a good fit for this project?

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1 hour ago, JTWfan77 said:

 

Thor, was wondering how you would have felt about Hans Zimmer scoring this rather than Franglen? I know you are partial to some of his work. Do you think he would have been a good fit for this project?

 

"Partial to some of his work" is the understatement of the year! :D Zimmer is one of my alltime favourite film composers, so I would be over the moon if he had been picked. He would definitely nail the exotic/electronic textures, but obviously, the action music would not be of the orchestral Horner kind. It would be something different. And it seems from the Franglen assignment, they don't really want something different. They're content with second-rate Horner approximations.

 

Hopefully, Zimmer can weave some great music for the exotic sci fi landscapes of DUNE instead.

 

In any case, I cannot iterate enough that James Newton Howard not getting this is the lost opportunity of the millennium.

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10 hours ago, Edmilson said:

 

Yeah, that's indeed a lot of music, about 30 to 40 minutes, I guess, judging by the 2017 LLL edition. For the non sinking scenes, I guess Horner only uses (parts of) the orchestra along with the synths during the departure of the ship (Southampton, Take Her to the Sea Mr Murdoch) and a few times during the finale (like on the woefully unused An Ocean of Memories, and the infuriatingly discarded Old Rose's Theme). 

 

But I don't know if this approach of "synth for the intimate scenes/orchestra for the sinking scenes" was Horner's creative choice, a demand because of budget constraints or a combination of both. Reminding that a- Horner's big, sweeping love themes for epics until then were mostly orchestral and b- A year later, he recorded the Back to Titanic album... With the LSO, lol.


I asked Simon Franglen this question a few years ago and the answer is in this thread:

 

 

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10 hours ago, Thor said:

 

"Partial to some of his work" is the understatement of the year! :D Zimmer is one of my alltime favourite film composers, so I would be over the moon if he had been picked. He would definitely nail the exotic/electronic textures, but obviously, the action music would not be of the orchestral Horner kind. It would be something different. And it seems from the Franglen assignment, they don't really want something different. They're content with second-rate Horner approximations.

 

Zimmer has done some orchestral work in the past, perhaps this could have been his opus magnum! Too bad we'll never know.

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58 minutes ago, JTWfan77 said:

Zimmer has done some orchestral work in the past, perhaps this could have been his opus magnum! Too bad we'll never know.

 

Sure, things like THE HOUSE OF THE SPIRITS, for example. But it's not his strength; he uses orchestra more as colourization, not an end in itself, so it wouldn't be "Horner-ish" in any case. He would add a slightly different angle to the musical landscapes. Would have been intriguing regardless.

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I think my major complaint with Zimmer's approach to this kind of film is that there is no emotion behind it. It's a bit soulless - forgive me if I quote the Bard - full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. Yet he has shown that he is capable of bringing emotion into his scores in the past, I just wonder why he doesn't.

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13 minutes ago, JTWfan77 said:

I think my major complaint with Zimmer's approach to this kind of film is that there is no emotion behind it. It's a bit soulless - forgive me if I quote the Bard - full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. Yet he has shown that he is capable of bringing emotion into his scores in the past, I just wonder why he doesn't.

 

Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but I get plenty of emotional by listening to his scores, both past and present. In fact, I consider that one of his strenghts as a film composer -- like Horner, he's very visceral, going immediately for the emotional core of a film.

 

God, I know where this is going. Am I up for another longwinded Zimmer defense in this thread? It's Christmas soon, I have other things on my mind.

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16 minutes ago, Thor said:

Am I up for another longwinded Zimmer defense in this thread? It's Christmas soon, I have other things on my mind.

 

No, that's not my intention. You enjoy Zimmer, I do not (with some exceptions). That's fine, there's no point in discussing it at length as we both have our preferences and will likely not be swayed. I will however make a point of listening to House of the Spirits. Any other orchestral Zimmer scores you could recommend?

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Phew....thanks! :)

 

Zimmer rarely operates with orchestra-only scores, as that's not what he's about. But in addition to HOUSE OF THE SPIRITS, NINE MONTHS is a pretty beautiful orchestral score. Pretty simple and straightforward, but with a Delerue-ian elegance, I think. There's also TWO DEATHS and THE LAST DAYS, which are quite haunting. In the same mold as HOUSE OF THE SPIRITS. A few others as well.

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