King Mark 3,631 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Double Trouble,Duel of the Fates, For Always Vocal version, Star of Bethlehem, Somewhere in my Memory, Cast a Christmas Spell, A Winter's Spell, Christmas Star ..etc... I never asked myself that question oddly Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan 689 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Well Double Trouble is Shakespeare and Duel of the Fates was a translation of an existing poem. I'm not sure about others though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Once 605 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Williams didn’t just copy+paste from Shakespeare, though. The lyrics are assembled from different parts of Macbeth, and he did that himself. SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 If I can trust the top of my head, the lyrics for Star of Bethlehem and Somewhere In My Memory were written by Leslie Bricusse. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 King Mark look at the liner notes and you will see who wrote the lyrics in most cases. But remember Barry Manilow wrote the song the makes the whole world sing. Now some genXr asks whose Barry Manilow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, JoeinAR said: But remember Barry Manilow wrote the song the makes the whole world sing. He didn't write the Coca-Cola song, did he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Just now, Steve McQueen said: He didn't write the Coca-Cola song, did he? Look at the liner notes. 👅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, Steve McQueen said: If I can trust the top of my head, the lyrics for Star of Bethlehem and Somewhere In My Memory were written by Leslie Bricusse. Yes, Leslie Bricusse has done a lot of lyric work for Williams over the years. And others. I don't believe he has ever written his own lyrics, except maybe some choral passages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 797 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 The lyrics to For Always are by Cynthia Weill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Whoever writes them, they usually turn out bad. Nick Parker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 There's got to be a morning after If we can hold on through the night We have a chance to find the sunshine Let's keep on looking for the light Oh, can't you see the morning after? It's waiting right outside the storm Why don't we cross the bridge together And find a place that's safe and warm? It's not too late, we should be giving Only with love can we climb It's not too late, not while we're living Let's put our hands out in time There's got to be a morning after We're moving closer to the shore I know we'll be there by tomorrow And we'll escape the darkness We won't be searching anymore There's got to be a morning after (There's got to be a morning after) There's got to be a morning after (There's got to be a morning after) There's got to be a morning after (There's got to be a morning after) (repeat and fade out) Lyrics not by John Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Stop that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 57 minutes ago, Steve McQueen said: He didn't write the Coca-Cola song, did he? That was Don Draper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Horner's Dynamic Range said: Stop that! We may never love like this againDon't stop the flowWe can't let go We may never love like this againAnd touch the skyNow we may try So while we hereLet's give up allWe listed the dreams inside usAnd set them free Oh, while we hereLet's live a markThere's a candle in the darkIt's here to guide us We may never love like this againBut through the daysBeyond the highsI'll see youReaching out to hold meI don't know justWhere or whenStill I'm sure We'll love again, we'll love againWe'll love again (we may never love like this again) We'll love again (we may never love like this again)We'll love again (we may never love like this again) We'll love again (we may never love like this again) lyrics Not by John Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 This thread is hilarious. Every OST album and expanded album credits the lyricist for any songs appearing on them. Look at your CD booklets, King Mark! Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Can you read my mind? Do you know what it is you do to me? Don't know who you are Just a friend from another star. Here I am, like a kid at the school Holding hands with a god or a fool Will you look at me, quivering, Like a little girl, shivering, You can see right through me. Can you read my mind? Can you picture the things I'm thinking of? Wondering why you are All the wonderful things you are. You can fly, you belong to the sky You and I could belong to each other. If you need a friend, I'm the one to fly too If you need, to be loved Here I am, Read my mind! Songwriters: John T. Williams / Leslie Bricusse Lyrics not by John Williams but this time the music is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Here I am like a kid out of school, quivering, like a little girl, shivering... Where's the #MeToo movement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 14, 2018 Author Share Posted December 14, 2018 I forgot about Leslie Briscusse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 8 hours ago, Horner's Dynamic Range said: Here I am like a kid out of school, quivering, like a little girl, shivering... Where's the #MeToo movement? That line, with the melody is one of my most guiltily enjoyed hooks. JoeinAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Lost Folio 183 Posted December 14, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 14, 2018 I did this list of all the songs that have been published. There's a list by lyricist at the bottom: https://sites.google.com/view/johnwilliamspiano/home/songs Jurassic Shark, SteveMc, crumbs and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 10 hours ago, Horner's Dynamic Range said: Here I am like a kid out of school, quivering, like a little girl, shivering... Where's the #MeToo movement? Because that lyric is in no way related 2 hours ago, King Mark said: I forgot about Leslie Briscusse How is that even possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 On 12/14/2018 at 1:51 AM, The Lost Folio said: I did this list of all the songs that have been published. There's a list by lyricist at the bottom: https://sites.google.com/view/johnwilliamspiano/home/songs Nice list. Maybe you would like to add his song cycle "Seven for Luck", poetry by Rita Dove. The soprano+piano reduction was published by Hal Leonard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 23 minutes ago, Miguel Andrade said: "Seven for Luck", Was a recording of that piece released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 JW usually doesn't. And it always says who wrote the lyrics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick Parker 3,040 Posted December 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2018 7 hours ago, Steve McQueen said: Was a recording of that piece released? Not officially, no. I want to say there were excerpts of it broadcast by PBS back in the day, which I believe some have access to and have never shared, for lord knows what reason. Being familiar with the piano version, I can say that it's not a major missing hole in Williams' oeuvre in terms of listener enjoyment. It's not a bad composition, and you can hear many classic and cool Williams devices on display (there's one movement--can't remember the name--that's absolutely gorgeous), but on the whole, Williams by his own admission has a hard time with vocal, lyrical writing...I think he's so instrumentally attuned, he writes vocal lines like they're instrumental parts! I would say that it's interesting in light of its subject matter...second to trees and nature, the African-American experience is probably Williams' strongest and most prevalent musical inspiration. SteveMc, Once, Will and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Nick Parker said: I think he's so instrumentally attuned, he writes vocal lines like they're instrumental parts! A criticism leveled at Beethoven! Not bad company, I'd say. 1 minute ago, Nick Parker said: the African-American experience is probably Williams' strongest and most prevalent musical inspiration. Oh, yes. There is something profoundly moving about Amistad and Rosewood, a certain element in those scores very unique in his work. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick Parker 3,040 Posted December 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, Steve McQueen said: Oh, yes. There is something profoundly moving about Amistad and Rosewood, a certain element in those scores very unique in his work. I think he's always felt a certain company with it...from his background, of course he listened to and probably played with many black musicians, holding many of them as heroes. His flute concerto was even written as a tribute to then recently deceased Eric Dolphy. Beyond that and what you mentioned, his pieces for solo cello, found on the Yo-Yo Ma album, also use African-American history as its lifeseed... I wanna say there might be other similarly inspired pieces later, but I can't remember. Overall, of course, his musical language has been heavily, and organically, shaped by 20th century black musicians; his music has a hipness to it you don't often hear in the orchestral world. This gives him, in my and other's experiences, a good amount of street cred in certain musician circles, that is _very_ rare for orchestral composers to receive. _deleted_, SteveMc, Once and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,482 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Thank you, thank you. You’ve been a wonderfull audience tonight. And now I will sing Yub Nub from the movie The Return of the Jedi. Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Bespin said: Thank you, thank you. You’ve been a wonderfull audience tonight. And now I will sing Yub Nub from the movie The Return of the Jedi. Aznavour? When!? Jurassic Shark and Bespin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 On 12/14/2018 at 2:51 AM, The Lost Folio said: I did this list of all the songs that have been published. There's a list by lyricist at the bottom: https://sites.google.com/view/johnwilliamspiano/home/songs You might also find interest in this old thread of mine (a complete list of JW songs, but also some that are not published): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lost Folio 183 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Great list @Thor! I'll add a link to your list on my website. I see that all the major songs have been published, but would you say there are some unpublished highlights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Bespin said: Thank you, thank you. You’ve been a wonderful audience tonight. And now I will sing Yub Nub from the movie The Return of the Jedi. Happy to join for a duet! Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Once 605 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Nick Parker said: I would say second to trees and nature, the African-American experience is probably Williams' strongest and most prevalent musical inspiration. Which is why he would've written a killer score for The Color Purple. SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 50 minutes ago, The Lost Folio said: Great list @Thor! I'll add a link to your list on my website. I see that all the major songs have been published, but would you say there are some unpublished highlights? Several. I love the "James Bond"-ian feel of "Uno di Qua, L'Altra di La", for example. The two WAGON TRAIN songs are nice too -- don't really sound like Williams, and are interesting for that reason. Also surprised "The Same Hello, The Same Goodbye" hasn't been published(?), what with it being a Sinatra song and everything...even if he never got to perform it. By the way, I had completely forgotten that Williams had written the lyrics for "Look Down, Lord". A rare exception, that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Under the tongue root a fight most dread While the other wages behind in the head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 What about all the Rosewood songs? Are those actual gospel songs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 40 minutes ago, crumbs said: What about all the Rosewood songs? Are those actual gospel songs? No. All originally written by Williams. And -- as we said above -- "Look Down, Lord" is the only song he has written lyrics to himself, AFAIK. SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Thor said: "Look Down, Lord" is the only song he has written lyrics to himself, AFAIK. The liner notes in the new Harry Potter boxset say otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 OK. He wrote "Double Trouble" or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Double Trouble's lyrics are from William Shakespeare, Thor. He wrote Hogwarts Forever and Cast A Christmas Spell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Ha, ha...I apparently don't know enough about either HARRY POTTER or Shakespeare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lost Folio 183 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 On 12/17/2018 at 3:35 PM, Thor said: Also surprised "The Same Hello, The Same Goodbye" hasn't been published(?), what with it being a Sinatra song and everything...even if he never got to perform it. Well, after all, it looks like "The Same Hello, the Same Goodbye" has been published! It's in the Barbra Streisand folio What Matters Most: Barbra Streisand Sings the Lyrics of Alan and Marilyn Bergman (Cherry Lane Music, 2013). I couldn't find a separate sheet music for the song, yet, but since it's copyrighted 2008-2009, I wouldn't be surprised to find it somewhere else too. Do we know when it would have been composed? I listed it as 2008 on my website since that is the copyright date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lost Folio 183 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 On 12/17/2018 at 11:34 AM, Miguel Andrade said: Nice list. Maybe you would like to add his song cycle "Seven for Luck", poetry by Rita Dove. The soprano+piano reduction was published by Hal Leonard. I finally added Seven for Luck to my website. I also added "Dream Away" from The Man Who Loved Cat Dancing, with lyrics by Paul Williams (who also did Cinderella Liberty that same year, 1973). It was officially published in a 1978 Paul Williams anthology. I should have a look at it in a week or two. Miguel Andrade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 13 hours ago, Thor said: Ha, ha...I apparently don't know enough about either HARRY POTTER or Shakespeare. You didn't know "by the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 11 hours ago, The Lost Folio said: Do we know when it would have been composed? I listed it as 2008 on my website since that is the copyright date. No, we're struggling to find the exact composition date. But the late 70s is the approximate period. 1 hour ago, Richard said: You didn't know "by the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes"? Is that how it goes? It's been years since I listened to any of my HARRY POTTER soundtracks, and even longer since I saw any of the films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 "When shall we three meet again..?" Yes, its from Act 4 of MACBETH (and a rather fine, and underrated film, from 1983 ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 I see. Not only has it been long since I saw a HARRY POTTER film, it's also ages since I read Shakespeare -- way back when he was part of the curriculum of my English degree at the university (late 90s). I have fonder recollections of the romantics like Shelley, Byron, Wordsworth & co. JULIUS CAESAR is probably the Shakespeare play I remember the most, for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 14 hours ago, The Lost Folio said: ...I listed it as 2008 on my website since that is the copyright date. Hold your horse, captain. Your website? Another JW website? Another rooster in the henhouse (!). Bespin isn't going to like this at all, unless it's a Streisand site, then that's ok. Our Bes might like that...but somehow I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lost Folio 183 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Let's just say that Bespin and I have different perspectives. (A while ago, I actually asked him if he wanted to combine our websites. I let you guess his answer...) I wish there could be a single, extensive website about the different aspects of JW's career. I did my website because I believed it was time for a John Williams bibliography. There are so many lists of works, but I could not find a list of publications. That's what I tried to do with The John Williams Piano Collection. I know not many people here seem to play piano, but I hope the information I provide can be useful to fans as well as archivists, musicologists, and scholars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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