Jay 37,364 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Sorry, didn't realize a different person replied! OK that page is updated too Dr. Rick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 I meant the newest article by saying newsletter. Is that wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 A newsletter refers to an email as far as I know. I've never seen any website page referred to as a newsletter >shrug< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Life finds a way. Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BrotherSound 2,242 Posted October 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2020 Wasn’t expecting this until Saturday, but look what just arrived! Chewy, Alan, Falstaft and 5 others 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 That looks like the ost. No INTRADA logo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 The front does, except the orange banner, the spine and back should be entirely different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Wow usually Californians are the first to get new specialty label releases! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Spider-Fal said: The front does, except the orange banner, the spine and back should be entirely different. No logo, no sale! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Need more pics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,109 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Need first impressions review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 51 minutes ago, ATXHusker said: Need more pics! www.intrada.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Has anyone received it? Any reviews of the music, sound quality, booklet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BrotherSound 2,242 Posted October 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, crumbs said: Has anyone received it? Any reviews of the music, sound quality, booklet? Just ripping my copy now. The booklet looks nice, but I’d wish they’d make space for a full cue-by-cue chronological discussion, and there’s no notes about the alternates at all. It’s very well-written, but more high-level overview of the music. Mike Matessino does provide some tech notes. He received Protools files that still had the performance edits to conform to the picture, so he had to meticulously open these back up to be able to present the cues as they were originally recorded. Josh500, DrTenma, 12-Mile Reef and 12 others 10 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 I'm glad they provided a flipper cover ( however bland) but wonder why " Intrada Special Collection" is missing? On 10/7/2020 at 11:39 AM, Richard Penna said: I'm so close to doing the same... I so wish you'd tell us you're actually 12 years old, as that's your posting maturity level. ALL score fans are 15 years old emotionally! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 58 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: I'm glad they provided a flipper cover (however bland) but wonder why " Intrada Special Collection" is missing? Are you serious? This hasn't been used by Intrada for more than five years now. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,363 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Jay said: Wow usually Californians are the first to get new specialty label releases! Not this Californian! You're getting your copy on Friday, right? Mine won't arrive until next Tuesday, and I'm less than 25 minutes' drive from Oakland (where Intrada is). And I ordered mine the same afternoon as everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,109 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 One thing that has always bothered me in these sci fi alien invasion films is that the technology the aliens represent is so advanced and angular physically; yet the bloody the aliens themselves are so physically handicapped limited to the imagination of their creators that just boggles the mind. Just a few cents here while trying not to suspend the illusion. Although I'd admit in this film at least the tripod and the aliens themselves have a certain resemblance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: Are you serious? This hasn't been used by Intrada for more than five years now. Rip van Marshall😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 For $28 USD delivery to Australia, even I'd want to receive this before Californians Bayesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, crumbs said: For $28 USD delivery to Australia, even I'd expect to receive this before Californians $28, just for postage? Guess that's what happens when you live on top of the world😞or is it the bottom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 54 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: $28, just for postage? Guess that's what happens when you live on top of the world😞or is it the bottom? Yes, if you're in Australia the item costs as much to post as the item itself. I accept the labels are struggling financially through the pandemic, but they'd probably have more international purchases if their shipping rates were a bit more reasonable. I'm a die-hard JW fan and even I'm struggling to justify this purchase (especially when almost everything else I want from Intrada is out of stock). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,391 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 9 hours ago, BrotherSound said: Just ripping my copy now. The booklet looks nice, but I’d wish they’d make space for a full cue-by-cue chronological discussion, and there’s no notes about the alternates at all. It’s very well-written, but more high-level overview of the music. Mike Matessino does provide some tech notes. He received Protools files that still had the performance edits to conform to the picture, so he had to meticulously open these back up to be able to present the cues as they were originally recorded. Hey what?! You have two CD2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 53 minutes ago, crumbs said: Yes, if you're in Australia the item costs as much to post as the item itself. I accept the labels are struggling financially through the pandemic, but they'd probably have more international purchases if their shipping rates were a bit more reasonable. I'm a die-hard JW fan and even I'm struggling to justify this purchase (especially when almost everything else I want from Intrada is out of stock). Well, it's app. $ 12 to ship to Europe and OZ is literally at the ends of the Earth....but I feel your pain, brother😥😥 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,363 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 55 minutes ago, crumbs said: Yes, if you're in Australia the item costs as much to post as the item itself. I accept the labels are struggling financially through the pandemic, but they'd probably have more international purchases if their shipping rates were a bit more reasonable. I'm a die-hard JW fan and even I'm struggling to justify this purchase (especially when almost everything else I want from Intrada is out of stock). That's scary expensive shipping. Is the rate more reasonable "per-capita" if you have a bunch of CDs in a single order? If so, I wonder if Intrada could put aside a copy of WOTW for you until all the other CDs you want are restocked. Part of me wants to actually drive over to Intrada's offices in Oakland so I could A) let them know in person how grateful we all are for the amazing, indispensable work they do, and B) see if my idea above would actually be possible. (Of course, that's assuming they even receive random visitors, which they might not.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BrotherSound 2,242 Posted October 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2020 34 minutes ago, Chewy said: Hey what?! You have two CD2? Sharp eye! Nah, I just moved over for the photo while I was ripping disc one. A few notes: @crumbs was right! Every version of ‘Reunion in Boston’ is here. In the main program, ‘Defeat and Reunion’ uses the C-major version (following the original introduction, as intended) and ‘Boston Street Finale’ is the Horn and Piano version. The OST has complete original 6M3 cue (‘The Separation of the Family’) and the film version that combines several different versions (‘The Reunion’). In the alternates section, ‘Boston Street Finale (Alternate No. 1)’ is 6M3 Alt, and ‘Boston Street Finale (Alternate No. 2)’ is 6M3 New. So all six versions are accounted for, but mercifully split up to avoid too much monotony. The alternate ‘Prologue and Opening Montage’ has all the same synth material (1M2 Film Prologue), but includes some parts that were written but later removed for the version of the orchestral overlay (1M2 Prologue Orch.) used for the final version. For instance, the strings enter right from the beginning of the cue. ‘Before the Escape’ is indeed, as suspected, 2M4 CD Intro presented on its on. The alternate ‘Epilogue’ appears to be just an alternate take, as far as I can tell. No significant differences in composition are jumping out at me so far. crumbs, crocodile, Chewy and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,109 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 26 minutes ago, BrotherSound said: Sharp eye! Nah, I just moved over for the photo while I was ripping disc one. A few notes: @crumbs was right! Every version of ‘Reunion in Boston’ is here. In the main program, ‘Defeat and Reunion’ uses the C-major version (following the original introduction, as intended) and ‘Boston Street Finale’ is the Horn and Piano version. The OST has complete original 6M3 cue (‘The Separation of the Family’) and the film version that combines several different versions (‘The Reunion’). In the alternates section, ‘Boston Street Finale (Alternate No. 1)’ is 6M3 Alt, and ‘Boston Street Finale (Alternate No. 2)’ is 6M3 New. So all six versions are accounted for, but mercifully split up to avoid too much monotony. The alternate ‘Prologue and Opening Montage’ has all the same synth material (1M2 Film Prologue), but includes some parts that were written but later removed for the version of the orchestral overlay (1M2 Prologue Orch.) used for the final version. For instance, the strings enter right from the beginning of the cue. ‘Before the Escape’ is indeed, as suspected, 2M4 CD Intro presented on its on. The alternate ‘Epilogue’ appears to be just an alternate take, as far as I can tell. No significant differences in composition are jumping out at me so far. And compared to the OST issue this edition 'sounds' superior and more clearer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 I have never understood the rationale for including alternates that have barely perceptible differences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherSound 2,242 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, Amer said: And compared to the OST issue this edition 'sounds' superior and more clearer? I can’t say I had any complaints about the sound of the original OST. I don’t think any dramatic improvement in quality was really possible in this case, but everything sounds excellent so far. Amer and Josh500 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 It wasn't as bad as Minority Report or, worse yet, A.I., but it was definitely quite dull sounding. Karol bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 MINORITY REPORT is one of the best sounding CDs you can hear. This is why I rarely Put any stock in fans opinions on sound quality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Josh500 1,615 Posted October 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2020 Wow, that was fast. Can't wait to hold it in my hands. More excited about this than I was about Far and Away or the Disaster Boxset... Btw, John Williams visiting the set of War of the Worlds. Love this pic! mahler3, Edmilson and Obi 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 2 hours ago, BrotherSound said: Sharp eye! Nah, I just moved over for the photo while I was ripping disc one. A few notes: @crumbs was right! Every version of ‘Reunion in Boston’ is here. In the main program, ‘Defeat and Reunion’ uses the C-major version (following the original introduction, as intended) and ‘Boston Street Finale’ is the Horn and Piano version. The OST has complete original 6M3 cue (‘The Separation of the Family’) and the film version that combines several different versions (‘The Reunion’). In the alternates section, ‘Boston Street Finale (Alternate No. 1)’ is 6M3 Alt, and ‘Boston Street Finale (Alternate No. 2)’ is 6M3 New. So all six versions are accounted for, but mercifully split up to avoid too much monotony. The alternate ‘Prologue and Opening Montage’ has all the same synth material (1M2 Film Prologue), but includes some parts that were written but later removed for the version of the orchestral overlay (1M2 Prologue Orch.) used for the final version. For instance, the strings enter right from the beginning of the cue. ‘Before the Escape’ is indeed, as suspected, 2M4 CD Intro presented on its on. The alternate ‘Epilogue’ appears to be just an alternate take, as far as I can tell. No significant differences in composition are jumping out at me so far. On 10/5/2020 at 11:31 AM, Brundlefly said: Four revisions, that's five versions in total: Disc 1 22. Defeat and Reunion** • 2:35 = 6m3cmaj Reunion in Boston 23. Boston Street Finale** • 2:13 = 6m3hp Reunion in Boston (Horn & Piano Version) Disc 2 10. The Separation of the Family • 2:37 = 6m3 Reunion in Boston 19. Boston Street Finale (Alternate No. 1)* • 2:03 = 6m3 Alt "Boston Street" 20. Boston Street Finale (Alternate No. 2)* • 2:00 = 6m3 New Reunion in Boston I'm not a hundred percent sure about 6m3hp and 6m3cmaj which could be swapped (as well as 6m3 Alt and 6m3 New). "Defeat" is certainly referring to the only once recorded opening of 6m3 which is probably attached to the first revision that appears in the main program in order to have it complete. So my first guess was correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 55 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: MINORITY REPORT is one of the best sounding CDs you can hear. This is why I rarely Put any stock in fans opinions on sound quality! If an expanded score was released as 128 kbps mp3s, people here would still claim it's got superior sound. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Sítrónu 494 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 I love INTRADA's two-cover-policy. does this release cover everything from the leaked recording sessions? I don't have those. I wish could be able to compare.... thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Judging by the photos in this thread, the artwork looks pretty great! I don't mind there not being a completely new cover. The "Music Composed and Conducted by John Williams" lettering looks much better, when it doesn't spread entirely from the right to the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,109 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 2 hours ago, crocodile said: It wasn't as bad as Minority Report or, worse yet, A.I., but it was definitely quite dull sounding. Karol AI.3CD had a fantastic quality upgrade which even left my DTS HD DVD-A behind. I think the WOTW recording has a wet sound. So, many of the dissonance and lower register instrruments were blended into each other. So this new edition appears to have more clarity (as far as I can tell from the samples) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Shipped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Amer said: AI.3CD had a fantastic quality upgrade which even left my DTS HD DVD-A behind. Oh yes, I was talking about the OST. Karol Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan 689 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 My copy left London Heathrow this morning. With any luck I'll have it tomorrow. mahler3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 It's a good thing this isn't a limited edition. That way we can be more relaxed about getting it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,364 Posted October 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2020 8 hours ago, Bayesian said: You're getting your copy on Friday, right? USPS tracking currently says "FRIDAY 9 OCTOBER 2020 between 10:15am and 2:15pm" 6 hours ago, BrotherSound said: Every version of ‘Reunion in Boston’ is here. In the main program, ‘Defeat and Reunion’ uses the C-major version (following the original introduction, as intended) and ‘Boston Street Finale’ is the Horn and Piano version. The OST has complete original 6M3 cue (‘The Separation of the Family’) and the film version that combines several different versions (‘The Reunion’). In the alternates section, ‘Boston Street Finale (Alternate No. 1)’ is 6M3 Alt, and ‘Boston Street Finale (Alternate No. 2)’ is 6M3 New. So all six versions are accounted for, but mercifully split up to avoid too much monotony. That OST track "The Reunion" does NOT match the final film edit. The final film uses a piece of music that was not on the OST, AND not on the session leak, that we are finally getting clean for the first time here (at the end of "Boston Street Finale" on disc 1) Quote The alternate ‘Prologue and Opening Montage’ has all the same synth material (1M2 Film Prologue), but includes some parts that were written but later removed for the version of the orchestral overlay (1M2 Prologue Orch.) used for the final version. For instance, the strings enter right from the beginning of the cue. I love both versions of the Prologue and have no opinion on which one is "better" - they are both so cool, in different ways! Quote The alternate ‘Epilogue’ appears to be just an alternate take, as far as I can tell. No significant differences in composition are jumping out at me so far. They went back and re-recorded the entire cue again from scratch on another day; the "Alternate" that ends the presentation is entirely takes from the earlier recording while the version we've always had has always been entirely takes from the newer recording. They didn't change the sheet music between recordings so it's a good study on what types of performance differences JW thinks might make a piece of music better. 3 hours ago, lemoncurd said: does this release cover everything from the leaked recording sessions? I don't have those. I wish could be able to compare.... thanks! There's nothing in the leak that isn't here. Conversely, there's a bunch of music here that wasn't in the leak. 21 minutes ago, Josh500 said: It's a good thing this isn't a limited edition. That way we can be more relaxed about getting it... This *IS* a limited edition. On 10/5/2020 at 6:05 PM, Jay said: Intrada Special Collection 2-CD set available while quantities and interest remain! Holko, Henry Sítrónu, BrotherSound and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Amer said: I think the WOTW recording has a wet sound. So, many of the dissonance and lower register instrruments were blended into each other. So this new edition appears to have more clarity (as far as I can tell from the samples) Definitely, it is a very noticable departure from the sound of the OST. mahler3 and Amer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,364 Posted October 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2020 The extra clarity was instantly noticeable to me right away. I love it! Amer, mahler3 and Henry Sítrónu 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahler3 478 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 There’s a very noticeable improvement in sound and the low end is especially more prominent. The timpani is effectively spread antiphonally too. Yes that photo is great, Josh. It’s lifted from the end of the Blu-ray/DVD music feature which I would encourage you all to watch. Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,364 Posted October 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, mahler3 said: Yes that photo is great, Josh. It’s lifted from the end of the Blu-ray/DVD music feature which I would encourage you all to watch. Here it is again On 10/1/2020 at 9:01 AM, crumbs said: Probably a good time to re-post this very generous scoring featurette on the film: Williams discusses several things of note here, including the low male chorus and the high-pitched female 'scream' in the Intersection Scene (that I think was absent from the OST version of that cue, but is included on the Intrada version). mahler3, ricsim88 and Josh500 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, mahler3 said: Yes that photo is great, Josh. It’s lifted from the end of the Blu-ray/DVD music feature which I would encourage you all to watch. Yes, you're exactly right! As a matter of fact, I was watching that featurette yesterday, and made a screenshot of that moment myself.... Love this, by the way. John Williams conducting "Escape from the City"... Just wow. Here it is: 32 minutes ago, Jay said: This *IS* a limited edition. Well, it's not limited to a certain set number of copies is what I meant. mahler3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 32 minutes ago, Jay said: There's nothing in the leak that isn't here. Conversely, there's a bunch of music here that wasn't in the leak. So, just like MR? Sweet! Can't wait to get this and dive into the score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 14 minutes ago, Josh500 said: Well, it's not limited to a certain set number of copies is what I meant. It is though, Intrada just doesn't tell us those numbers. They stopped doing that a decade ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, Jay said: It is though, Intrada just doesn't tell us those numbers. They stopped doing that a decade ago Oh. Better get it sooner than later, then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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