GerateWohl 4,370 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 As I recently again for the hundredth time heard the Star Wars main title described as an "iconic theme" I thought, please don't use that word "iconic" anymore. It is so overused and lost its flavour. And there are so many other words, that could be used for such a context like"famous" or "divine" or "brillant". The english language has so many words. No need to stick to the same 3 adjectives all the time. So, I react a little allergic on that term "iconic". Are there words that you don't like (anymore) to be used at describing music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,358 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Sound Texture Color Beautiful Music Good Bad Sucks Awesome Wagner Gabriel Bezerra, GerateWohl and ThePenitentMan1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJosh 892 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 "Fire" Example: "damn that star wars song is fire!" GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,358 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Just now, MrJosh said: "Fire" Example: "damn that star wars song is fire!" Damn, that post by MrJosh was a Fire Banger Bop! MrJosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GerateWohl 4,370 Posted October 19, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2022 "Song" Docteur Qui, Brando, Gabriel Bezerra and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,358 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Just now, GerateWohl said: "Song" "Tune" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenitentMan1 744 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 9 minutes ago, MrJosh said: "Fire" Example: "damn that star wars song is fire!" "You may fire when ready." MrJosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edmilson 7,466 Posted October 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2022 If I'm reading a film music review, these are some of the adjectives that make sure I'll never listen to the reviewed album: "experimental" "fresh" "droning" "oppressive" "extreme dissonance" "abstract sound effects" "ear-splitting" AKA: Every contemporary horror score for the past 10 years or so. Edmund, GerateWohl and Taikomochi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,358 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Indy Five: A fresh and surprisingly experimental JW score with ear-splitting brass statements of the iconic Raiders March and epic new Villian theme, a theme for the central macguffin utilizing extreme dissonance and oppressive choir, droning didgeridoo for the Australia sequence, and abstract orchestral sound effects for the opera sequence. 7 hours ago, Edmilson said: If I'm reading a film music review, these are some of the adjetives that make sure I'll never listen to the reviewed album: "experimental" "fresh" "droning" "oppressive" "extreme dissonance" "abstract sound effects" "ear-splitting" AKA: Every contemporary horror score for the past 10 years or so. Tom and Edmilson 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marian Schedenig 8,206 Posted October 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2022 EPIC!!!111 Andy, michael_grig, Docteur Qui and 4 others 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Essential Orchestral 52 minutes ago, Edmilson said: If I'm reading a film music review, these are some of the adjetives that make sure I'll never listen to the reviewed album: .... AKA: Every contemporary horror score for the past 10 years or so. Mine and your tastes have some difererences.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,466 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: Mine and your tastes have some difererences.... Believe me, I'm not talking about Zimmer, but rather about those extremely harsh horror scores that have become the norm in Hollywood. Stuff like Hereditary, Midsommar, A Quiet Place, everything written by Joseph Bishara, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 I wasn't talking about Zimmer either I have Bishara's two Annabelle scores plus another one of his and over a dozen other horror scores that definitely fit exactly the category you mean. There's also bigger stuff like Gravity, the Purge scores and the two most recent Alien scores that I really like. Didn't get into Beltrami's Quiet Place scores... might give them another go. Pretty much, if there's a found footage or horror movie that primarily uses drones or textural music, chances are I'm going to like it. Hence I innocently meant that mine and your tastes (and let's be honest, most of JWFan's) just aren't really the same. If you want a horror score that'll really piss you off, take a peek at Wallfish's The Invisible Man. Even I get a little turned off by the harshness occassionally. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,466 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 36 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: If you want a horror score that'll really piss you off, take a peek at Wallfish's The Invisible Man. Even I get a little turned off by the harshness occassionally. I like parts of Wallfisch's It 1 and 2 scores. They definetly have some of the characteristics that I described, but also include some pretty good themes, moments of gothic horror with Chris Young-like choir (The Ritual of Chüd), cool action tracks (Welcome To The Losers Club) and touching emotional moments (Stan's Letter). The very very long albums are a problem, though, so the best thing to do is to create a playlist of the best cues of each score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 IIRC I have two Wallfish scores - Invisible Man and The Thirteen. I also saw the Hellboy movie he did but the score had zero impression on me. Same goes for one of the 'It' movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,401 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 7 hours ago, Roll the Bones said: statements of the Raiders March The iconic Raiders March... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,358 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 17 minutes ago, Tallguy said: The iconic Raiders March... Indeed. Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,391 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Nothing bothers me. I'm not gonna complain about words since I'm not even able to describe music myself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Who 919 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 16 hours ago, Roll the Bones said: "Tune" Tune is fine IMO. Many composers like Newman, JNH, HZ and others use this term. Song is just wrong though for film music unless it’s actually a song used in the film. Docteur Qui and GerateWohl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 'Original' used in relation to a songtrack album where one track (if that) was created for the film. ThePenitentMan1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,206 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 On 19/10/2022 at 8:47 PM, Marian Schedenig said: EPIC!!!111 To clarify: I like good epic music. But the word is frequently used as a measure of quality these days, when it really isn't - worse than that, music that's supposed to be epic but isn't good also implicitly fails to be epic. Docteur Qui and GerateWohl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 "textural" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,358 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Disco Stu said: "textural" Too late On 19/10/2022 at 12:20 PM, Roll the Bones said: Texture Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 'The musical score'. What else do reviewers think exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,358 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, bollemanneke said: 'The musical score'. What else do reviewers think exist? Unmusical score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 What if it's a score for a musical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Revolutionary Game-changing Counterintuitive Non-manipulative Deconstructive Unemotional Subverts expectations GerateWohl and Edmilson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,358 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, JTWfan77 said: Unemotional Is it even music anymore? 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TolkienSS 407 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 "How does it sound?" "Nice" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,419 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 "draws heavily from" "quintessential" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Collaboration 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,370 Posted October 22, 2022 Author Share Posted October 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Richard Penna said: Collaboration You don't like bands, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Faleel 5,358 Posted October 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2022 11 hours ago, Bellosh said: "quintessential" ThePenitentMan1, Bellosh and Tallguy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 23 hours ago, GerateWohl said: You don't like bands, do you? In non-soundtrack terms I'm primarily talking about when one artist collaborates with another (i.e. feat. ABC) and you're only a fan of the primary artist or you don't like the featured one. Dua Lipa does a lot of this, and in one case ('No Lie') I edited her vocals into an instrumental as I couldn't stand the guy who sang the other bits. GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,515 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 On 21/10/2022 at 5:24 PM, Disco Stu said: "textural" Jay and Disco Stu 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 I have gained much wisdom in the past 5 years (although the Arrival score is better and more interesting than BR2049, I stand by that) Loert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,370 Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 Some terms are ok for some time. But when they get overused they lose their flavour or even start annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,358 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Flavour Annoying Overused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,401 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 "tinkley". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,370 Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, Roll the Bones said: Flavour Annoying Overused Luckily I wasn't describing music. Faleel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,529 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Listening experience Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,358 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Holko said: Listening experience The Mattessino expanded Star Wars prequels are a great listening experience 1 hour ago, Holko said: Listening experience OST is Enough On a serious note: "Electronics" Not because hearing it makes me not want to hear the music, but because it is inaccurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Thread should be retitled to specify film scores - there's nothing wrong with calling a song a song if it is indeed a song. But I agree that the word epic has lost all meaning in score discussion. It used to mean something, and it was the only way to describe something like "Duel of the Fates" or a large portion of Shore's LOTR. How about some words that we should hear more of when describing film music? I'll start: Sublime Incandescent Luminous Rhapsodic Sonorous Feeble Turgid Guileless Or how about some from Williams' own sesquipedalian vocabulary? I've always loved his use of cornucopia in interviews, it's a word that perfectly describes some of his most ambitious scores with themes aplenty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,358 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 48 minutes ago, Docteur Qui said: How about some words that we should hear more of when describing film music? I'll start: Sublime I swear I have heard it before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,666 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 This music is the last experience you will ever have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,358 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Tom said: This music is the last experience you will ever have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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