Jay 37,416 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Howard Shore Scoring Scott Cooper’s ‘The Pale Blue Eye’ Howard Shore (The Lord of the Rings, The Hobbit, The Silence of the Lambs, The Aviator, Hugo, Mrs. Doubtfire, Big) has composed the original music for the upcoming Netflix original film The Pale Blue Eye. The movie is written and directed by Scott Cooper (Black Mass, Hostiles) and stars Christian Bale, Harry Melling, Gillian Anderson, Lucy Boynton, Toby Jones, Charlotte Gainsbourg, Harry Lawtey, Hadley Robinson, Simon McBurney, Timothy Spall and Robert Duvall. The thriller based on the novel by Louis Bayard is set in West Point, 1830 and follows a detective who is hired to investigate the gruesome murder of a cadet and enlists one of their own to help unravel the case – a young man the world would come to know as Edgar Allan Poe. Cooper and Bale are also producing the project with John Lesher (Birdman, End of Watch) and Tyler Thompson (The Trial of the Chicago 7, American Made) of Cross Creek Pictures. The Pale Blue Eye will be released in select theaters on December 23, 2022 before premiering on January 6, 2023 on Netlix. http://filmmusicreporter.com/2022/10/31/howard-shore-scoring-scott-coopers-the-pale-blue-eye/ Yavar Moradi and Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 This movie ticks so many boxes for me in terms of my tastes and interests, can't wait. Raiders of the SoundtrArk and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,434 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Agreed this look really promising Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,416 Posted November 2, 2022 Author Share Posted November 2, 2022 I look forward to watching this motion picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,027 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Looks like the kind of a project Shore excels at. Karol Trope 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post leeallen01 2,136 Posted November 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2022 Not sure where to post this, but just finished my oil painting of Howard Shore and thought I'd share it. I actually decided to open a separate artwork dedicated thread in 'other topics' for anyone to share their artwork. Cerebral Cortex, Alex Shore, FunnyML and 9 others 6 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,416 Posted November 14, 2022 Author Share Posted November 14, 2022 Poster is out Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,974 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Wooow. What a cast. This looks terrific. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMotif 1,038 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,027 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 I like this. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TolkienSS 408 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Aside from Zimmer and Williams, I don't think there's a film composer alive whose music is as instantly recognizable as his as Howard Shore's. I think I could pick out his music out of a hundred. Trope and Chen G. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Who 920 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Gibster said: This sounds great! I like the "Hobbit-sound"! artguy360 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,376 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 If the rest is as good as this or better, it might be my pick for score of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,722 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Oooh sounds promising and oh so very Howard Shore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,416 Posted December 15, 2022 Author Share Posted December 15, 2022 The score album is now out in any country where it is already Friday 1. The Pale Blue Eye (0:52) 2. West Point (1:46) 3. The Investigation (2:27) 4. Deciphering the Letter (2:06) 5. Hospital Ward (2:23) 6. Mattie (1:43) 7. Professor Jean Pépé (3:03) 8. Augustus Landor’s Library (1:19) 9. Attack on the Road (1:50) 10. The Mystery Unravels (2:56) 11. La Divine Patsy (2:18) 12. Edgar A. Poe (3:55) 13. The Icehouse (4:48) 14. A Stay of Execution (2:44) 15. Poe Recounts the Truth (3:08) 16. Tightening the Noose (7:06) 17. Everything Will Be All Right (1:18) 18. The Academy (2:27) https://music.apple.com/nz/album/the-pale-blue-eye-soundtrack-from-the-netflix-film/1654909775 https://music.apple.com/nz/album/the-pale-blue-eye-soundtrack-from-the-netflix-film/1658414349 I have no idea why its on NZ iTunes twice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,416 Posted December 16, 2022 Author Share Posted December 16, 2022 Anybody listen to this today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 I’m going to wait and watch the movie first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TolkienSS 408 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 A lot more accessible than other Shore scores of this kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,844 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 I'm looking forward to listening to this soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TolkienSS 408 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 The Icehouse 3:15 A wild Necromancer has appeared! Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WampaRat 1,105 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Listened to it today. Haunting. Melancholy. Lovely. A great little score. And yes there’s a few action bursts that sound like they could be taking place in Middle Earth. 45 minutes well spent. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,027 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 I heard some of it and really like it. Yet another nice film score surprise and that says something as this year was full of them. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Very static LOTR, meaning i vastly prefer his more varied Cornenberg/Crimes of the Future writitng. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,844 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Haven't listened to it yet, but have heard from a couple of friends that listen to A LOT of soundtracks, that it's a soundtrack without identity and character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark 317 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 This is Horner levels of self-plagiarism (mostly from the Hobbit), but I did enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,964 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 On 17/12/2022 at 1:38 PM, publicist said: Very static LOTR, meaning i vastly prefer his more varied Cornenberg/Crimes of the Future writitng. That's okay, until my eventual election as king of the world, being wrong is not yet punishable by death... Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,027 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 I really like it. Yes, it sounds very much like The Desolation of Smaug meeting The Silence of the Lambs. But that's fine by me. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,844 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Listened to the OST two times through. I love Shore's general sound here which is in the LOTR/Hobbit ball park. It's like a more subdued, more bland LOTR score with a more consistent dark vibe. Not remarkable, but nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TolkienSS 408 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 9 hours ago, Stark said: This is Horner levels of self-plagiarism (mostly from the Hobbit), but I did enjoy it. Can you point at tracks that you think contain Hobbit references? I didn't spot them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,707 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 On 18/12/2022 at 5:32 PM, artguy360 said: Listened to the OST two times through. I love Shore's general sound here which is in the LOTR/Hobbit ball park. It's like a more subdued, more bland LOTR score with a more consistent dark vibe. Not remarkable, but nice. I played the first few tracks and yep, this is the sort of vibe I got. It's a bit like listening to some Hobbit alternates with all the themes taken out, and a slightly darker, and tad more modern sound. I do rather like more subdued, textural scores so I might end up liking it, but I don't think it's going to turn out to be anything remarkable. artguy360 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark 317 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 11 hours ago, TolkienSS said: Can you point at tracks that you think contain Hobbit references? I didn't spot them. I’d have to listen again and also have the Hobbit scores on the side to figure out exactly which moments are getting referenced - but like Richard said it really does sound like almost all Hobbit styles with the themes run through a blender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TolkienSS 408 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 6 hours ago, Stark said: I’d have to listen again and also have the Hobbit scores on the side to figure out exactly which moments are getting referenced - but like Richard said it really does sound like almost all Hobbit styles with the themes run through a blender. I think you're just referring to Howard Shore's particular orchestral approach and compositional idioms. I don't hear The Hobbit in this. Except that Necromancer moment mentiones above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Shore 83 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Its like a beautiful returning to Middle Earth with some of the 90's thriller music. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,416 Posted January 8, 2023 Author Share Posted January 8, 2023 We watched the film last night, which is pretty good. Not great, but certainly worth watching The score fit the film like a glove! Most of the time I was engaged enough with the film that I didn't specifically notice the score or what it was doing. But occasionally my score antennae tuned into it, and my thought was always that it was really supporting the film very well. I haven't listened to the score album yet, but remember checking out a few passages in the past and hearing some Hobbit-ness in them. I will say when watching the actual movie, there wasn't a time at all when I specifically noticed anything Hobbit-y. So now I'm curious to listen to the album and see what I think! Anybody else watch the movie yet? (It's on Netflix) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trope 530 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 I genuinely loved the film, and highly recommend it! I went in with an expectation level of 0, and found it to be quite thrilling - I did not predict any of the story twists! Jay is right: the score suits the film perfectly, adding to an already strong atmosphere. I also didn't notice much of the music watching first-time through (as I was wrapped up in the plot and characters), but I thought the spotting was well done, leaving several moments without score to heighten the effect when the music enters. Upon my second viewing, I enjoyed the film even more and picked up on a couple of musical themes. I like Shore in thriller mode: lots of dark orchestral colours and several beautiful moments too (for one character in particular). Yavar Moradi and Jay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,416 Posted January 9, 2023 Author Share Posted January 9, 2023 4 hours ago, Trope said: the score suits the film perfectly, adding to an already strong atmosphere. I also didn't notice much of the music watching first-time through (as I was wrapped up in the plot and characters), but I thought the spotting was well done, leaving several moments without score to heighten the effect when the music enters. I agree with all this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,974 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Just saw the film. I thought it was very very good. I saw the first 'twist' coming. But that 2nd one was beautiful and unexpected. Spoiler I love how they cut back to the opening shot of Bale at the river and it made sense what he was doing there. I also loved how the ending was left open to interpretation. Did he jump off the cliff as well or not. And as said above Shore's music is tremendous and really elevates the film. It's never in your face and truly helps bring you fully in the world of the film, which I loved. I also appreciate the score on album a lot more now and especially the different themes. Wonderful stuff Trope and Jay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thestat 352 Posted January 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2023 Loved the score in the film - I thought it had great presence. The orchestral colours shine through magnificently. From the opening credits to the final despair, wonderful Shoreian bleakness. As Doug Adams has suggested the film uses some of the rejected King Kong score, I wonder if this piece was the love theme for the Jackson epic. It would not sound out of place (and most of the other material is familiar - but still suitably dissimilar - from Silence of the Lambs, Smaug, The Score - however, I cannot place this theme elsewhere in Shore's catalogue): Trope, Jay and Incanus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TolkienSS 408 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 It MAY be from his rejected Kong score. But is it inconceivable to you that Shore may have written, well, original music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestat 352 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 No. I love Shore's work. What is your problem? It's clearly all original as I made explicit in my original post. There are hints of SOTL, Score and other scores. It's still clearly a very idiosyncratic Shore composition. That is what all composers do. They have a style. A Goldsmith Rambo theme may end up resembling something from Rudy. I rank this as probably my top 2 composition of all time for its unrelenting bleakness and the unusual gestures Shore does with orchestra: Where do you place it in yours? TolkienSS - where do you place this Shore score in your lineage of music (this one is wholly original so no need to suggest I am accusing Shore of plagiarism, no one has done music like this before): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trope 530 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 4 hours ago, thestat said: As Doug Adams has suggested the film uses some of the rejected King Kong score, I wonder if this piece was the love theme for the Jackson epic. It would not sound out of place (and most of the other material is familiar - but still suitably dissimilar - from Silence of the Lambs, Smaug, The Score - however, I cannot place this theme elsewhere in Shore's catalogue): This theme always had an air of familiarity to it. The opening shape of the melody certainly reminded me of this from 2:02 (not from Shore, but a similar musical line!): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,974 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 I had that exact same thing in my head. That it sounded like Corpse Bride! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Adams 494 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 On 10/1/2023 at 5:29 PM, thestat said: Loved the score in the film - I thought it had great presence. The orchestral colours shine through magnificently. From the opening credits to the final despair, wonderful Shoreian bleakness. As Doug Adams has suggested the film uses some of the rejected King Kong score, I wonder if this piece was the love theme for the Jackson epic. It would not sound out of place (and most of the other material is familiar - but still suitably dissimilar - from Silence of the Lambs, Smaug, The Score - however, I cannot place this theme elsewhere in Shore's catalogue): I'm afraid that nothing in Pale Blue Eye has any relation (articulated or otherwise) to Shore's KONG score. I don't remember making that suggestion, but I apologize if I said something misleading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,416 Posted January 31, 2023 Author Share Posted January 31, 2023 The Pale Blue Eye is a really cool score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestat 352 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Fair enough Doug but give my best to Shore for this track (it's an obsessive one - both beautiful and typically disturbing) Trope and Doug Adams 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trope 530 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 3 hours ago, thestat said: Fair enough Doug but give my best to Shore for this track (it's an obsessive one - both beautiful and typically disturbing) That section from about 1:00-2:00 where the main theme is augmented with the evocative string (and later brass) effects/dissonances is incredible. Those subtle changes in colour and orchestration between thematic statements add so much to the drama of this scene in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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