Popular Post Thor 7,518 Posted February 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2023 I couldn't find a previous, separate thread on this, and I feel like it deserves its own. It's one of the tentpole pictures of 2023 that I look forward to the most. I was thrilled when Martin Phipps was recently announced as composer, as posted by Jay on FSM via a tweet on Moviescore Wire: I first discovered Phipps through his excellent BRIGHTON ROCK in 2010. Since then -- or even prior to that -- he's specialized in stories about history or royal families. All good stuff, whether it's THE CROWN, VICTORIA, THE VIRGIN QUEEN or the Princess Diana HBO documentary THE PRINCESS, which was on my top 10 list of 2022. So in theory an excellent fit for this project. Naïve Old Fart, Bayesian and Jurassic Shark 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Who 919 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 I’m disappointed that HGW isn’t scoring this but Phipps is good. Courtney Sees Ghosts and Evanus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Hopefully the movie will have Scott's lighter tone even though the subject might call for a serious epic tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,286 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 28 minutes ago, AC1 said: Hopefully the movie will have Scott's lighter tone even though the subject might call for a serious epic tone. Funny, I was thinking how this would be good done in the style of The Great, the show about Catherine the Great, but I'm guessing it won't be that modernist/absurd (it's a great show, incidentally, mixing hilarious and awful/shocking, brilliant stuff). I'm gonna have to give Phipps' Brighton Rock another listen as I recall enjoying it considerably. His work on The Crown is generally fine, although I did find some of the music from the last season seemed a bit overwrought at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,839 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 I don't know the composer. What is the best score he's written, to check him out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,518 Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 21 minutes ago, filmmusic said: I don't know the composer. What is the best score he's written, to check him out? As previously alluded to, these are my top 5: 1. BRIGHTON ROCK 2. The Princess 3. The Virgin Queen 4. Victoria 5. Sense & Sensibility Mostly TV. I dig the film HARRY BROWN, but can't remember much of the score. filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,318 Posted February 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Mr. Who said: I’m disappointed that HGW isn’t scoring this but Phipps is good. Just watched The Last Duel and thought HGW did a fantastic job. He's become a very reliable composer in the last decade or so. Will be interesting to see who scores the Gladiator sequel, whether Scott goes back to Zimmer. Edmilson, Cerebral Cortex, Mr. Who and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,518 Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 17 minutes ago, crumbs said: Just watched The Last Duel and thought HGW did a fantastic job. He did. Abysmal film, but one of the 10 best scores of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Who 919 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, crumbs said: Just watched The Last Duel and thought HGW did a fantastic job. He's become a very reliable composer in the last decade or so. Will be interesting to see who scores the Gladiator sequel, whether Scott goes back to Zimmer. Last duel is a great score! I still haven’t seen the film though. I really hope that Zimmer does the Gladiator sequel though I think it’s unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,372 Posted April 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 3, 2023 ‘Napoleon’ To Premiere Exclusively In Theaters on November 22nd, Ahead Of Apple TV+ Debut Indianagirl, Bayesian, JNHFan2000 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 On 4/2/2023 at 5:38 AM, Thor said: As previously alluded to, these are my top 5: 1. BRIGHTON ROCK 2. The Princess 3. The Virgin Queen 4. Victoria 5. Sense & Sensibility Mostly TV. I dig the film HARRY BROWN, but can't remember much of the score. I LOVE his Sense & Sensibility… has that ever been released on album in any way, though? Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,363 Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 3 hours ago, Jay said: ‘Napoleon’ To Premiere Exclusively In Theaters on November 22nd, Ahead Of Apple TV+ Debut Very excited that this movie will get an exclusive theatrical run -- a film of this scope deserves it. Now we need a trailer! Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indianagirl 298 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 I'm glad its going to theaters I was worried it wouldn't. Hopefully it will be on blu-ray eventually and not just apple tv Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,721 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 3:29 PM, Bayesian said: Very excited that this movie will get an exclusive theatrical run -- a film of this scope deserves it. Now we need a trailer! Really looking forward to this also. The historical epic is pretty much my favourite genre, and Scott has made two of the all-time best (though otherwise he's been hit or miss in the genre). Excited to see what approach he takes with the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 I wonder how similar and different this Napoleon movie will be from Spielberg's miniseries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,721 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Is that actually happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indianagirl 298 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Is Spielberg's based somewhat based off Kubrick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Nick1Ø66 said: Is that actually happening? Yea 22 minutes ago, Indianagirl said: Is Spielberg's based somewhat based off Kubrick? Yea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,372 Posted April 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2023 Sony Motion Pictures Chairman and CEO Tom Rothman introduced a sequence from Ridley Scott’s Apple TV+ movie, Napoleon at CinemaCon tonight. The clip shown has Joaquin Phoenix’s title character commanding the French army in a foggy, blurry wintery epic battle with the Russian and Austrian forces. Napoleon knows it’s coming; he has invited the attack. Lots of bayonets slicing and soldiers falling in the icy water. Next to other notable big battle pics like Braveheart and 1917, Napoleon stands apart. Not Mr. Big, Drawgoon, JNHFan2000 and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,286 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Jay said: Sony Motion Pictures Chairman and CEO Tom Rothman introduced a sequence from Ridley Scott’s Apple TV+ movie, Napoleon at CinemaCon tonight. The clip shown has Joaquin Phoenix’s title character commanding the French army in a foggy, blurry wintery epic battle with the Russian and Austrian forces. Napoleon knows it’s coming; he has invited the attack. Lots of bayonets slicing and soldiers falling in the icy water. Next to other notable big battle pics like Braveheart and 1917, Napoleon stands apart. Kinda sounds like it needs Prokofiev to score it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,967 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Wouldn't be surprised if Scott lets the battle scenes unscored. He did that in The Last Duel as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Napoleon's life seems to large in scope to be well told in a single movie. Wasn't this supposed to originally be centered around Josephine's life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,363 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, Romão said: Napoleon's life seems to large in scope to be well told in a single movie. Wasn't this supposed to originally be centered around Josephine's life? What I've read is that the relationship between Napoleon and Josephine is the driving force of the movie's narrative and the (several) battles are effectively Napoleon's version of flowers and mash notes. You're right that his life and exploits are too much for one movie. But if anyone is going to come close to pulling it off, it's Ridley Scott. I cannot wait for this movie. If it weren't for JW scoring Indy 5, this would easily be what I'm most anticipating this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted April 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2023 Glad we're finally getting some more period epics. It's been too long Mr. Who, Cerebral Cortex, Drawgoon and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, Bayesian said: What I've read is that the relationship between Napoleon and Josephine is the driving force of the movie's narrative and the (several) battles are effectively Napoleon's version of flowers and mash notes. You're right that his life and exploits are too much for one movie. But if anyone is going to come close to pulling it off, it's Ridley Scott. I cannot wait for this movie. If it weren't for JW scoring Indy 5, this would easily be what I'm most anticipating this year. Thing is, Ridley is so damn unreliable. He was able to elevate a quite lackluster script in Gladiator (the central performance also helped tremendously and did a lot of the heavy lifting). but for the most part, I tend to think he's as good as the script Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,721 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 40 minutes ago, Not Mr. Big said: Glad we're finally getting some more period epics. It's been too long Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,470 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Isn't Scott, like, the only guy still doing period epics for the last 15 years? Kingdom of Heaven, Robin Hood, Exodus, The Last Duel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,084 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 He's stuck in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,363 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 29 minutes ago, Edmilson said: Isn't Scott, like, the only guy still doing period epics for the last 15 years? Kingdom of Heaven, Robin Hood, Exodus, The Last Duel... He sure is! And we're not going to disappoint him this time, like we did with Last Duel, are we?? We're going to plunk our ticket-buying asses into those recliner-loungers for Napoleon come Thanksgiving, dammit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 No! Knowing Ridley Scott as I do, the Theatrical Release will have a running time of a meager 90 minutes, so we better wait for the Blu-ray 4K which will feature the Director's Cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,470 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Scorsese's new movie is also coming out by Apple TV and it's over 3 hours long, so I don't think they will force Scott to edit his movie to a 120-150 minute runtime. Worst case scenario it'll become a 5-episode minisseries Drawgoon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Who 919 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 20 minutes ago, AC1 said: No! Knowing Ridley Scott as I do, the Theatrical Release will have a running time of a meager 90 minutes, so we better wait for the Blu-ray 4K which will feature the Director's Cut. It’s interesting that with Kingdom of Heaven, Scott says that the extended cut is his vision whereas in the case of Gladiator, he says that the theatrical version is his vision while the extended was something that the producers wanted. I agree with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestat 348 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 No discussion, KOH is the directors cut. Don't even try to watch the normal one. Here, well. Scott is unreliable but he gets top performance from composers despite their appropriateness. Phipps will be whatever Scott asks him to do. He was very likely hired on the premise of these tracks: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 I watched the theatrical version of KoH on whichever service I'd signed up to for a month (probably Disney+) and really enjoyed it. I then bought the Blu-ray based on the strength of it, and knowing the consensus that the director's cut is better. Gladiator... also have the BD with the extended cut an skimmed through it once to see what they'd done musically. Theatrical edition seemed the better one to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Is Phipps the composer for all the seasons of The Crown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Who 919 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Rupert Gregson Williams did the first 2 seasons. A24 and Courtney Sees Ghosts 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,470 Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Quote According to a listing on South Korea’s official rating board website, Ridley Scott’s next directorial project reportedly holds a total running time of 157 minutes and 43 seconds. The film is currently slated to arrive in theaters on November 22, followed by its streaming debut on Apple TV+. https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/1300150-napoleon-runtime-revealed-for-ridley-scott-and-joaquin-phoenix-movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtney Sees Ghosts 269 Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Was really hoping Harry Gregson-Williams was gonna do this one too. Is he that busy with Chicken Run 2? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,470 Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, Courtney said: Is he that busy with Chicken Run 2? Lol Yeah, now that you mentioned it, it was probably CR2 what kept him from doing this movie Courtney Sees Ghosts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtney Sees Ghosts 269 Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 17 minutes ago, Edmilson said: Yeah, now that you mentioned it, it was probably CR2 what kept him from doing this movie Wow the more you know. LMFAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,470 Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, Courtney said: Wow the more you know. LMFAO I'm not saying it's something official or anything, just speculating. But yeah, the release dates seem to match: CR2 is coming out in mid-December, Napoleon in late November. So I do believe that was the reasons (or at least one of them) for HGW not doing Napoleon. That said, Scott usually likes to change composers and try someone new once in a while, so perhaps he just wanted a fresh sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtney Sees Ghosts 269 Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 23 minutes ago, Edmilson said: That said, Scott usually likes to change composers and try someone new once in a while, so perhaps he just wanted a fresh sound? Makes me wonder who will score Gladiator 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,967 Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Gregson-Williams isn't returning for The Equalizer 3 as well. So it might indeed be that he is fully focusing on Chicken Run 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,470 Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 23 minutes ago, Courtney said: Makes me wonder who will score Gladiator 2. I imagine it'll be someone associated with Remote Control in order to keep the general sound of the first movie. Maybe Marc Streintenfeld? He hasn't appeared in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,967 Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Bring Klaus Badelt back Indianagirl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 I guess Zimmer deems this project too commerial? BTW, is 'wailing' still a thing in today's scoring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 I certainly hope not. I do, however, like the female vocals, in both MINORITY REPORT, and EPISODE III. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,363 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Two things: 1) Thank the great good God above that Zimmer had nothing to do with this film. 2) HGW, did you really step away from a Ridley Scott epic on Napoleon of all historical figures to score the sequel to a kiddie flick about a chicken?? Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamleyeti 114 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Happy to learn Martin Phipps is on this project. He probably had a lot of time considering how much The Crown has been reusing the wonderful he's done for the series. Honestly, that's a shame… If you don't know Phipps, I'd recommend Brighton Rock and The Railway Children Returns he co-wrote with Edward Farmer. The first one is quite bleak and emotional restrained, the second is a pure English adventure type of music, full of jolly themes and colorful bits. Bayesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 6 hours ago, Bayesian said: Two things: 1) Thank the great good God above that Zimmer had nothing to do with this film. 2) HGW, did you really step away from a Ridley Scott epic on Napoleon of all historical figures to score the sequel to a kiddie flick about a chicken?? Have you seen the original Chicken Run? It’s an excellent film, and it was a key stepping stone in HGW’s career even though he co-scored it with Powell. In contrast Ridley Scott doesn’t have the greatest track record of treating composers well, and I’d say despite a couple masterpieces, more than half of his films are… not good. Yavar Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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