Max 146 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 According to the latest poster, Andrea Datzman is scoring Inside Out 2! This is her first score for a feature film, right? That’s neat! I’m looking forward to hearing it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 8,182 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Gia's wife? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Gonzales 5,817 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Nvm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 3,222 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Yeah! She should use Giacchino's themes! bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Who 949 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 That’s a shame, was looking forward to hear Gi revisit the themes he wrote for the first score Trope 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,468 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Oh well, now you might get a decent-sounding recording. Bring on the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,882 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 37 minutes ago, Mr. Who said: That’s a shame, was looking forward to hear Gi revisit the themes he wrote for the first score She is going definately use Giacchino's themes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,292 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 She also wrote Triple Dent Gum from the first movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,918 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Damn. It looks good. JNHFan2000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 8,182 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, Tallguy said: Damn. It looks like crap Fixed Davis and Trope 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,918 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 37 minutes ago, Edmilson said: Fixed Outside of the "Pixar hasn't made a good movie since The Incredibles" crowd, I don't think many people have lower expectations for this movie than I do. And that looked like a reasonable sequel to the first one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drawgoon 103 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 With most of his former Pixar colleagues jumping ship for Skydance animation, it won't surprise me if MG wanted to follow along, all without burning the bridges. Also his ambitions for filmmaking and all that. In any case, I think this will turn out better in Datzman's hands than if MG were to return. No matter what the film's quality may be like, a composer who is new to the scene is more likely to take advantage of the situation and give it their best than one who's already "seen it all". Yavar Moradi and Stark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis 2,749 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 I read her name and I was like: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ren 868 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Knowing she is Giacchino's wife makes me think she will definitely use his themes, so I'm okay with someone else scoring the film as long as it's a good score, and perhaps she will bring a new perspective or a new voice to the project. Looking forward to it! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Gonzales 5,817 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 9 hours ago, Drawgoon said: With most of his former Pixar colleagues jumping ship for Skydance animation, it won't surprise me if MG wanted to follow along, all without burning the bridges. Also his ambitions for filmmaking and all that. In any case, I think this will turn out better in Datzman's hands than if MG were to return. No matter what the film's quality may be like, a composer who is new to the scene is more likely to take advantage of the situation and give it their best than one who's already "seen it all". But she's not really new.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,919 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 I've seen the first one twice and I can only recall two bits of music - Nomanisone Island and Tears of Joy. Hence to me it wasn't a movie that relied on its score anywhere near as much as some Pixar movies, so I think it's good material for a composer who doesn't have much big stuff under her belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mstrox 6,742 Posted March 8 Popular Post Share Posted March 8 16 minutes ago, Faleel said: But she's not really new.... Yeah, she’s been on Giacchino’s team since well before Inside Out: Part One. She’ll be an acceptable continuation of Giacchino’s soundscape for the original movie. She wrote the music for the recent Up shorts series, if you want an idea - she’s able to adapt Gia’s stuff and ape his sound. Stark, Gabriel Bezerra and Yavar Moradi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,919 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Is someone new ever really an unacceptable continuation of a franchise though? As long as the score they write isn't outright bad. I could understand more with perhaps Toy Story where a departure from Newman's jazzy sound would be very noticeable, and some other guy writing a more generic score without Newman's themes wouldn't be warmly welcomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 3,222 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 The question is... will Randy Newman score Toy Story 5? And if not, who should? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,882 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 53 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: Is someone new ever really an unacceptable continuation of a franchise though? As long as the score they write isn't outright bad. I could understand more with perhaps Toy Story where a departure from Newman's jazzy sound would be very noticeable, and some other guy writing a more generic score without Newman's themes wouldn't be warmly welcomed. Do you like both Giacchino Toy Story Specials? ;P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,919 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Never seen them Unless you're implying that Gia is 'some other guy' doing a generic score, you're stretching my argument a tad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,918 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 hours ago, Richard Penna said: Is someone new ever really an unacceptable continuation of a franchise though? Leonard Rosenman, Robocop 2. 2 hours ago, Richard Penna said: As long as the score they write isn't outright bad. Leonard Rosenman, Robocop 2. Stark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,292 Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 Final trailer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 8,182 Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 I saw some Youtube comments on the first trailer saying stuff like "The first movie came out when I was a child...", "I grew up with the first Inside Out..." and I was like The first Inside Out came out in 2015! How come there are people nostalgic for their childhoods in 2015?!? On that year I was already 22, had a drivers license, started on my first job and was finishing graduation! Sigh... I can barely accept people with childhood nostalgia for the early 2010s, but people with childhood nostalgia for mid-to-late 2010s is just too much *despair intensifies* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,292 Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 9 years from any single digit age to later is so wildly different from 9 years from 22 to 31. for me (35 to 44) it feels like the first movie still recently came out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 8,182 Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 I know, it's just that people feeling nostalgic for a movie that came out in year that I already was an adult with a license and a job is just so... Guess I'll have to get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,543 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 We're probably not that far from hearing about nostalgia for the Star Wars sequels. I had a very existential realization months ago that this most recent school year was the year where every student in high school had been born the years I was in high school, basically any birthday between Summer 2005-Summer 2009. Feel like I've crossed some sort of threshold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 8,182 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 1 hour ago, mrbellamy said: We're probably not that far from hearing about nostalgia for the Star Wars sequels. Indeed. The prequels went from being everyone's favorite punching bag to great works of cinema due to the kids who grew up with them becoming not only adults but actually the majority of users on social media who completely turned the discourse in their favor. Eventually, the kids who grew up with the prequel trilogy will get even older and younger people who grew up with the sequels will take their place as the majority of users on the internet. Then, it will be just a matter of time for the prevailing sense for those movies to turn completely in their favor. And not just the sequels: in a few years we'll see posts like "I grew up with Solo: A Star Wars Story, watched it in theaters when I was 8 and then numerous times later on streaming! Here's why it's actually a great movie..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderdrag64 749 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 If I remember correctly prequel hate was at its peak around 2012, right around when the Plinkett reviews came out (2009-2015). That basically began 10 years after TPM came out, and fizzled out around when the prequel kids were old enough to dominate the Internet. TFA came out 10 years ago next year, so I'd give sequel hate another 7 years or so, if it follows a similar timeline it'll climax and start to fizzle out around 2028. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,742 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 Hard to believe prequel hate peaked any later than maybe June 1999. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Gonzales 5,817 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 I actually had a moment where I was like "wait, it's been six years since Solo came out!? Good lord" after Powell made an anniversary post about it. Just now, mstrox said: Hard to believe prequel hate peaked any later than maybe June 1999. What about June 2002? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,742 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 Everyone was already resigned by then Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,543 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 24 minutes ago, Edmilson said: Indeed. The prequels went from being everyone's favorite punching bag to great works of cinema due to the kids who grew up with them becoming not only adults but actually the majority of users on social media who completely turned the discourse in their favor. Eventually, the kids who grew up with the prequel trilogy will get even older and younger people who grew up with the sequels will take their place as the majority of users on the internet. Then, it will be just a matter of time for the prevailing sense for those movies to turn completely in their favor. And not just the sequels: in a few years we'll see posts like "I grew up with Solo: A Star Wars Story, watched it in theaters when I was 8 and then numerous times later on streaming! Here's why it's actually a great movie..." I also think a lot of it is just a healthy disrespect for older people constantly telling you what's good and what's not. Older classics can become "boring" in the same way. GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Gonzales 5,817 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 "Goldsmith? Ewww.. thats old stuff, we listen to Volker Bettelman now!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,543 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 That's Hauschka to you, mister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 8,182 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 15 minutes ago, The Great Gonzales said: "Goldsmith? Ewww.. thats old stuff, we listen to Volker Bettelman now!" As long as Volker Berttelman's cues are shorter than a TikTok video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,882 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 5 hours ago, mstrox said: Hard to believe prequel hate peaked any later than maybe June 1999. It must have peaked a little bit later, as it was the only post Original trilogy film to have a worldwide release like in the days of old, i mean premiere in the US in May and subsequent releases in other countries during the rest of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 3,222 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Based on the samples, Giacchino's themes and style are very much present. Full album releases tomorrow https://music.apple.com/nz/album/inside-out-2-original-motion-picture-soundtrack/1751392500 Knight of Ren 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ren 868 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Great to hear Giacchino's themes are back. I really like his score for the first entry, so knowing his themes return is lovely. And reading the titles, it's great to know that his wife is keeping the pun-filled style tracks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JNHFan2000 3,222 Posted June 13 Popular Post Share Posted June 13 What I love about what Datzman does with Giacchino's themes is that she evolves them and uses them in lot's of new and interesting ways. Not just straight reprises, but different arrangements etc. That's what I hoped she would do and I'm so glad she did. Wish more sequel scores composed by another composer did it like that. Knight of Ren, Once, Will and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,292 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 1 Outside Intro 0:55 2 Go Team! 2:26 3 The Life of Riley 2:32 4 Thread the Needle 1:06 5 Riley Protection System 2:46 6 Creating a Sense of Self 1:30 7 Demo Day 1:57 8 Ride and Prejudice 2:18 9 Anxious to Meet You 2:21 10 Seeking Val-idation 1:44 11 Sending Out an S.o.S. 2:45 12 Bloofy & Co. 2:59 13 Flight for Fighting 2:48 14 Fawn of a New Day 0:55 15 Return to Imagination Land 1:08 16 To Project and Disserve 3:19 17 What's the Big Idea? 2:30 18 Red Hairing 1:17 19 Recovering a Sense of Self 2:54 20 Joyless 1:53 21 The Puck Drops Here 2:58 22 A Mind at Freeze 2:43 23 Growing Up Is Hard to Do 4:18 24 Glide and Joy 2:00 25 Every Messy, Beautiful Part of Her 2:43 26 Inside Outro 2:21 27 Done Track Mind 8:15 Total: 67:21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilasGupta 9 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 The impression I had of the music after seeing the movie yesterday is that to my ears it was absolutely interchangeable, simple, blandly orchestrated and undemanding. In other words: the usual average team Giacchino score. The first 10 minutes in particular, in which something could be established musically, seemed so generic and loveless to me when I tried to concentrate strictly on the score... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 3,222 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 I disagree whole heartedly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark 400 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 I didn’t like this as much as the original but “generic” it is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,292 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 I listened to the OST album on Friday and liked it a lot! I was really thrown for a loop when the rock music came into things, but came to completely love it by the end of the album. Can't wait to see the film now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilasGupta 9 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 9 hours ago, JNHFan2000 said: I disagree whole heartedly! 7 hours ago, Stark said: I didn’t like this as much as the original but “generic” it is not. I didn't want to offend anyone. Of course, that's just my subjective perception (and attitude towards the Giacchinos, I have to admit) - I'll definitely lend the album an ear at some point. Don't let my opinion spoil your fun :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 3,222 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Certainly not, and you didn't offend (at least not me). I just don't agree with you. I'm a massive Giacchino fan and there's no one who can talk me out of that🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilasGupta 9 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Oh i used to be a massive Giacchino fan too. Even met him when I was visiting Jack Hayes years ago and thought he was very nice. Thought The Incredibles was a masterpiece and from then on listened to everything I could get my hands on. I guess it was with Up and the latest with MI Ghost Protocol that I started to analyze how he composes and how he wants his orchestrations and got a bit depressed - up until Incredibles 2 where I lost interest completely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,227 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 This is a super fun passage (variation on my favorite of Giacchino's themes from the first film): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Bezerra 358 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 Just finished listening to both Inside Out albums back-to-back. It was ages ago that I heard the first movies album and I think it starts very strong but kinda lost itself in by the end. I found the second one to be the opposite, together they make a interesting 2-hour album. One of the new themes remind me of another one from Forrest Gump... probably just my mind playing tricks on me. Yavar Moradi and Knight of Ren 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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