Fantastic Beasts And Where To Find Them 5-film series

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1 hour ago, Nick1066 said:

That said, I don't blame him for the hysterical and panicky Dumbledore of GOF....that's all on Newel.

 

Everything is up to 11 in that film, even the hairstyles!

[Bilbo 3,709]

I liked the hair in GoF. It was very of the time. We all had long hair back then. 

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

I didn't!

[Bilbo 3,709]

You don’t count 

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

Mine was the same as it is now.

 

But if you told me in 2005 that I'd have debilitating hearing damage in 2018 as a result of a home accident, I'd never believe you.

[Arpy 4,145]

I think everyone felt the same way about Gambon stepping in to "replace" the inimitable Richard Harris, but I might be in the minority here on the position that Gambon brought something to the role that made him 'Dumbledore', or at least a facet of what I envisioned him to be in the books. I think there was warmth in his performance (particularly in Half-Blood Prince), but most of the way his character was handled saw him involved in a way which didn't lend well to much personalisation. He was grouchy and irritated because that's what the direction required. As I was reading Deathly Hallows when the book was released, I found myself reading Dumbledore in Gambon's voice, with his mannerisms so to speak because, for me, he embodied everything I saw Dumbledore to be.

 

I think it's unfair to point to that moment in Goblet of Fire when he almost tackles Harry as the moment that defines Gambon's portrayal (as many online appear to do) because it simply isn't. There's a certain vulnerability and restraint he plays on in the rest of that film that shouldn't go overlooked.

 

When Dumbledore and Harry journey to the cave I couldn't imagine Harris standing upon that rock or doing much action at all, resigned to positions that catered to his age and health - much like the late Christopher Lee was in The Hobbit films, bathed in CGI.

 

To wrap up my thoughts of Gambon as Dumbledore I'd say that despite the slight differences in portrayal from the books, he still was an actor in the series that could command attention and remained one of my personal favorites since him taking over the role. 

 

 

[The Illustrious Jerry 3,356]

I just watched Fantastic Beast and Where To Find Them last night, not as a HP fan but with limited expectations and knowledge of that cinematic universe. It was alright.

[Chen G. 3,949]

On 9/7/2018 at 5:47 AM, Arpy said:

inimitable Richard Harris

 

What's so inimitable in Richard Harris in that role?

 

That's not a slate against the actor. Its not even much of a slate against the director - its just that there isn't an awful lot of Dumbeldore in the first two films, so there isn't anything for Harris to show his prowess with.

 

Chen, who's presently watching Richard Harris in Clint Eastwood's Unforgiven.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

1 minute ago, Chen G. said:

 

What's so inimitable in Richard Harris in that role?

 

People just like decorating their sentences with fancy adjectives.

[Arpy 4,145]

1 minute ago, Chen G. said:

 

What's so inimitable in Richard Harris in that role?

 

That's not a slate against the actor. Its not even much of a slate against the director - its just that there isn't an awful lot of Dumbeldore in the first two films, so there isn't anything for Harris to show his prowess with.

I think there was a certain magic about him. A twinkle in his eye, a sense of status and authority and subtlety that comes with years of experience. I guess that sentiment is, naturally, going to be different for other people, whether they saw that or not.

 

 

[Bilbo 3,709]

10 minutes ago, Arpy said:

I think there was a certain magic about him. A twinkle in his eye, a sense of status and authority and subtlety that comes with years of experience. I guess that sentiment is, naturally, going to be different for other people, whether they saw that or not.

 

 

 

I definitely agree with that but I also agree with finding it hard to imagine him in the cave in HBP

[mstrox 6,651]

I hadn’t read any of the books until film 3 made me realize, “Oh, Harry Potter might not suck after all.”  

 

Harris never interested me as Dumbledore, which is partially due to the lack of energy, partially due to his very limited role in those two movies, and partly due to how little interest I had/have in the Columbus movies.  Gambon has always embodied Dumbledore for me, starting with the “late start” I had in being interested.

[The Illustrious Jerry 3,356]

This is random-

Gandalf>Dumbledore

 

I'm already a huge fan of Star Wars and Middle Earth lore, I never got started with Harry Potter and still can't. Fantastic Beasts was fairly light hearted at times, and a lot of fun. It was somehow more keeping for me than the Harry Potter films I've seen (bits and pieces- 1, 2, 3 in whole).

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

Dumbledore is a fraud

[The Illustrious Jerry 3,356]

Did he knowingly hire Lockhart?

[Holko 9,526]

Yes because nobody else applied for the cursed job of DADA teacher. (not kidding, Voldemort actually cursed the position after he wasn't allowed to take it and now nobody can teach it more than a year)

[Nick Parker 3,040]

1 minute ago, Holko said:

Yes because nobody else applied for the cursed job of DADA teacher. (not kidding, Voldemort actually cursed the position after he wasn't allowed to take it and now nobody can teach it more than a year)

 

Haha, seriously? You're a cool dude, Holko: what's in Harry Potter for you?

[The Illustrious Jerry 3,356]

I'm not a HP fan. It'd be too much cinematic universe info for me to handle.

[Holko 9,526]

 

1 hour ago, Nick Parker said:

You're a cool dude, Holko

Oh stop it, you! 

 

1 hour ago, Nick Parker said:

what's in Harry Potter for you?

 

I read the first one on my own when I was 5 years old, it was one of the first "real" books I read on my own, and my gateway to fantasy and escapism which my parents weren't overly fond of. Then I of course grew up with them, and the books "grew up" with me (meaning the obvious getting more dark and complicated). The final Harry-Voldemort showdown was one of the most satisfying moments in my reading history. I still reread them every few years partly out of nostalgia, partly out of discovering or appreciating new things. Dumbledore's backstory first seemed like a distraction from the Horcrues, now one of my favourite parts. I love the world, the attention to detail and continuity, the humour and Britishness in the core of it spreading to every aspect. I also like the characters, their dynamics and how they change and grow. The only detractors I find in the books are the lack of a reparations chapter or two at the very end, and the childishness of books 1 and 2 - on my last reread 2 years ago, book 1 took me 4 times as long to read than 4 and 5 combined, it just wasn't very engaging.

 

That all said, books 1-7, the 3 bonus books, the first 5 movies to varying degrees, my nostalgic LEGO sets and the first 3 PC games are all I need. Oh, and Matessino's 1-2-3 score expansions. Maybe I'll even finally read the whole thing English someday. But even though I will always cherish them and revisit them from time to time, I do not let my life revolve around them like a ton of cringy "potterheads" I see online who have shelves of funko shits, overpried replica wands and wear robes and house scarves all the time. (I do have a Potter robe but that's a high school class thing from a great and successful school event I have fond memories of.) I don't even bring it up unless someone pretends they don't understand why movie 8 is utter dogshite  

[The Illustrious Jerry 3,356]

Ah yes. I was quite a reader back in the day. I remember starting with The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings when I was eight. It was such fun! Now I hardly read. I'm a picky book guy. I didn't care for the Harry Potter books, but I don't deny their outbreak being a phenomena. They are some of the few books youngens even read anymore these days, so they must be doing something right.

[Chen G. 3,949]

I started reading Harry Potter, and gave up somewhere in the Order of the Phoenix.

 

I also didn't follow the films after the second or third, and only discovered many of the later ones recently.

[Nick1Ø66 4,714]

I'm telling you guys, Patrick Stewart would have been a bril Dumbledore. The guy can pull off a powerful, commanding presence, while also being compassionate, and even mischievous with a wink in his eye like good ole' Albus.  He would have nailed the role.

[Chen G. 3,949]

3 hours ago, Nick1066 said:

Patrick Stewart would have been a bril Dumbledore

 

Duh! He's Patrick Stewart.

[Marian Schedenig 8,193]

4 hours ago, Nick1066 said:

I'm telling you guys, Patrick Stewart would have been a bril Dumbledore. The guy can pull off a powerful, commanding presence, while also being compassionate, and even mischievous with a wink in his eye like good ole' Albus.  He would have nailed the role.

 

I always wanted him to play Moody.

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9 hours ago, Chen G. said:

I started reading Harry Potter, and gave up somewhere in the Order of the Phoenix.

 

I also didn't follow the films after the second or third, and only discovered many of the later ones recently.

 

Order of the Phoenix is a really bad book badly written. It needed a good editor. The last 3 books are very hastily written and all 3 feel like first drafts with only book 6 having some sense of structural coherence. 

[Nick1Ø66 4,714]

8 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said:

 

I always wanted him to play Moody.

 

That’s not bad.

[Arpy 4,145]

8 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said:

 

Order of the Phoenix is a really bad book badly written. 

Are you sure your comment isn't a 'really bad comment badly written'?

[Bilbo 3,709]

So the Maledictus is Nagini. That’s interesting. 

 

I’m starting to wonder if we’ll start to see some of Tom Riddle’s story developed in these films. 

 

He was born between films 1 and 2 and he graduates Hogwarts around the time of the last film. 

[Jay 37,364]

Final trailer

 

 

[Bilbo 3,709]

Twitter is outraged that a woman of color turns into a snake apparently. 

 

Twitter is tiring. 

[Jurassic Shark 12,076]

Are they implying that all women are snakes?

[Alex 2,835]

#SnakeLivesMatter

[Nick1Ø66 4,714]

I still don't know what these movies are about.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,528]

They're about 2 1/2 hours.

[Nick1Ø66 4,714]

They're about to make another billion dollars.

[Bilbo 3,709]

They’re 5 films about the rise and fall of Gelert Gindlwald and the resistance against him I guess.

[Jay 37,364]

Yep

[The Illustrious Jerry 3,356]

I've been keeping up with the Harry Potter films as of late. They are not as bad as I thought, they are quite good actually. Looking back though I am starting to like Prisoner of Azkaban more now that I've seen what it's up against with the others. Harry needs to get a real girl though. It's like he's standing outside a revolving door the past few movies- who will he kiss next?!  Fantastic Beasts was the third Potter/Wizard franchise film I saw (the first to HP were lackluster). It was actually really good movie wise. The characters are lovable enough and while I hardly have a clue what's going on it's just fun to watch. I find that to be the same with Pirates of the Caribbean- the plot lines are so twisted and confusing for me yet it's a hell of a lot of fun just to watch. I have more respect for Potter fandom now, but Star Wars and Tolkien come first.

[TheUlyssesian 2,478]

Interesting trailer. Too bad they didn't use JNH's main theme and stuck to Williams' theme for the trailer.

 

This looks like a much more ambitious movie visually.

 

I think this series might age well. The first movie was really good. Easily one of the best wizarding world movies.

[The Illustrious Jerry 3,356]

2 minutes ago, TheUlyssesian said:

The first movie was really good. Easily one of the best wizarding world movies.

Yes! Great characters too!

[Nick1Ø66 4,714]

59 minutes ago, The Illustrious Jerry said:

I've been keeping up with the Harry Potter films as of late. They are not as bad as I thought, they are quite good actually.

 

They are.

[The Illustrious Jerry 3,356]

Yes, the occasional cringe bit. Overall though 

[mrbellamy 6,287]

Trailer's aight. Looking forward to more Queenie, JNH, and Rowling writing Dumbledore again. 

[Arpy 4,145]

Apart from Dumbledore not wanting to face Grindelwald directly due to emotional reasons, why would he ask Newt to kill Grindelwald? Of all people?

[Mr. Breathmask 555]

So... Is that a larger version of the veil that ends up swallowing Sirius Black in OotP?

[Alex 2,835]

20 minutes ago, Arpy said:

Apart from Dumbledore not wanting to face Grindelwald directly due to emotional reasons, why would he ask Newt to kill Grindelwald? Of all people?

 Because we need to give Newt something to do in this film 

[Disco Stu 15,495]

i laughed

 

 

at this one too

 

 

[Marian Schedenig 8,193]

9 hours ago, Arpy said:

Apart from Dumbledore not wanting to face Grindelwald directly due to emotional reasons, why would he ask Newt to kill Grindelwald? Of all people?

 

Perhaps we'll learn about it in the film? Also, it's set a while after the first one, isn't it? Newt might have accomplished something in the meantime that made Dumbledore pick him. Or even if not, let's not forget that Dumbledore likes to watch people closely and pick them for tasks. Didn't he teach Newt at Hogwarts? He might have seen something in him then that hasn't yet manifested itself. Or perhaps it was just a hunch. Why did Gandalf pick Bilbo?

 

9 hours ago, Mr. Breathmask said:

So... Is that a larger version of the veil that ends up swallowing Sirius Black in OotP?

 

That would be interesting, especially because I always thought there seemed to be more to that veil, beyond the obvious "you don't want to believe it, but he's simply dead".

[Bilbo 3,709]

2 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said:

 

Perhaps we'll learn about it in the film? Also, it's set a while after the first one, isn't it? Newt might have accomplished something in the meantime that made Dumbledore pick him. Or even if not, let's not forget that Dumbledore likes to watch people closely and pick them for tasks. Didn't he teach Newt at Hogwarts? He might have seen something in him then that hasn't yet manifested itself. Or perhaps it was just a hunch. Why did Gandalf pick Bilbo?

 

 

That would be interesting, especially because I always thought there seemed to be more to that veil, beyond the obvious "you don't want to believe it, but he's simply dead".

 

He did teach Newt at Hogwarts. I think your Gandafl/Bilbo comparison is apt. He picked Newt because he knows Newt is pure and good and when it comes down to it will make the right decision. 

 

There's only a few months between the first film and the second. 

[Alex 2,835]

When Newt was expelled Dumbledore protested his innocence so there’s probably some sort of bond there already.