crumbs 15,530 Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 There's really no point buying the OST at all now, knowing how much unreleased music there is. It's like buying a bunch of bananas but only getting peeled skins.
Not Mr. Big 4,819 Posted December 10, 2015 Author Posted December 10, 2015 There's really no point buying the OST at all now, knowing how much unreleased music there is.It's like buying a bunch of bananas but only getting peeled skins.I'll gladly take the skins if I'm starving. Once 1
Sandor 858 Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 The plan to record in London was made before he got a pacemaker installed.I don't remember there was any plan or indication Williams intended to initially record in London. Jacck 1
Quintus 5,732 Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 Isn't this like the way people who aren't really into film music tend to call score selections 'songs'?When the guy says remixes, doesn't he mean 'rearrangements of old themes'?Yes.Not sure about the combined orchestra though..... What could THAT mean in 'simple folks-terms'...?Probably just means the power of the whole orchestra playing together.OMG, common sense? On JWFan??
tannhauser 101 Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 Hey guys, just wondering if there are any articles/websites/dissertations that provide a comprehensive analysis of the music of the original Star Wars trilogy? I'm not terribly familiar with the franchise - I've listened to the albums several times and know the more famous selections quite well, but haven't seen the films for many years. With the new film coming out, I'm planning to revisit the original trilogy and would like to take the opportunity to get to know the scores and musical motifs in further depth and detail. Any recommendations?
Scarpia 132 Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 Hey guys, just wondering if there are any articles/websites/dissertations that provide a comprehensive analysis of the music of the original Star Wars trilogy? I'm not terribly familiar with the franchise - I've listened to the albums several times and know the more famous selections quite well, but haven't seen the films for many years. With the new film coming out, I'm planning to revisit the original trilogy and would like to take the opportunity to get to know the scores and musical motifs in further depth and detail. Any recommendations? You can start with Mike Richards' Celebrating Star Wars Themes series: http://www.filmmusicnotes.com/celebrating-star-wars-part-1-of-6-uses-of-the-force-theme/
Matt C 542 Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 The plan to record in London was made before he got a pacemaker installed.I don't remember there was any plan or indication Williams intended to initially record in London.Williams indicated as such in the Variety interview. From a production standpoint (filming was mostly in the UK), it would've been more cost-effective to recorded with the LSO instead.I think Kathleen Kennedy took Abrams' post-production process into account, as well as Williams's age, before they announced "Episode VII Will Record Score in Los Angeles".
Romão 2,432 Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 JJ talks about JW and the score (starting at the 13:16 mark): The end credits include Rey's Theme, the Resistance theme and Kylo Ren's theme. Also, Leia's theme and the Force theme are heard in the score
Sandor 858 Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 The plan to record in London was made before he got a pacemaker installed.I don't remember there was any plan or indication Williams intended to initially record in London.Williams indicated as such in the Variety interview. From a production standpoint (filming was mostly in the UK), it would've been more cost-effective to recorded with the LSO instead.I think Kathleen Kennedy took Abrams' post-production process into account, as well as Williams's age, before they announced "Episode VII Will Record Score in Los Angeles".Thanks for this.JJ talks about JW and the score (starting at the 13:16 mark): The end credits include Rey's Theme, the Resistance theme and Kylo Ren's theme. Also, Leia's theme and the Force theme are heard in the score8 minutes long..! Nice..!
crocodile 9,224 Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 According to Neil S. Bulk, the albums runs 77:08.Karol
Not Mr. Big 4,819 Posted December 10, 2015 Author Posted December 10, 2015 According to Neil S. Bulk, the albums runs 77:08.KarolHow would he know...
crumbs 15,530 Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 The Google Play listing was 75:05 or something wasn't it? Maybe Cellar Song is only 2 minutes long and they just shoved it at the end?
BloodBoal 7,544 Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 According to Neil S. Bulk, the albums runs 77:08.98 minutes of unreleased music, then!
crocodile 9,224 Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 So they wasted two minutes of disc space! Outrageous!Karol
crumbs 15,530 Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 Wait, Google Play has the runtime at 77:08 as well. I'm sure it was only 75 minutes when I checked the other day, so I'm either insane or they've updated their runtime. Someone here posted the runtime they had listed on Google Play last week, so if anyone wants to scan the thread feel free!
BloodBoal 7,544 Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 There you go:Google Play Store shows 23 tracks too but indicates the full time as well: 1 hour, 17 minutes and 8 seconds!! Longer than the 3 prequel CDs!Link: https://play.google.com/store/music/album?id=Bcy2ehekhvtysp3ftal2bwz7hxe
Jay 42,831 Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 I was going to say we already knew the running time last week!Karol must have missed the discussion.
Taikomochi 1,335 Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 If that indeed is the final running time, and not a pre-trimmed album.
Ricard 2,379 Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 I was going to say we already knew the running time last week!Karol must have missed the discussion.I think many people missed it.
crumbs 15,530 Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 No, JW hasn't microedited yet. It'll end up about 50 minutes shorter, like the good old days.
Demondm810 437 Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 Target exclusive ugh No info on how many emboss levels.
Jay 42,831 Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 We discussed the Target cover last month when it was revealed. I like it! http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=25617&p=1188979
King Mark 3,835 Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 what, no emboss, no buy Demondm810 and Taikomochi 2
Thor 9,311 Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 While it might seem quite long at first glance, 77 minutes seems like a reasonable length for a score of this scope. I have the fullest trust in Williams' album arrangement skills!(by the way, I'm starting to think that Stefancos' suggestion of a sub-forum dedicated to TFA wasn't such a bad idea after all -- at least a temporary one -- judging from all the different threads popping up now). mstrox 1
crumbs 15,530 Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 But you forget that End Credits (a rehash of the concert suites) and Cellar Song takes up at least 43 minutes of that runtime.
Hook1991 10 Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 okay so the score is 77 minutes long. i'm okay with this and really excited. Hopefully though at soime point the other 2 hours of music gets released. Also is the 30 mins of unreleased music being released as well? Didn't JJ say there was an additional 30 minutes that would be released?bI wonder if it is already included in the 77 minute album runtime.Thanks!1
crumbs 15,530 Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 It's actually possible the OST was assembled before the final round of recording sessions, due to production requirements. Hence it already contains the alternate/original versions of revised cues that were recently recorded.It isn't a quick process pressing millions of CDs and shipping them globally. The OST would needed to have been locked at least a month before release.
Scarpia 132 Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 It's actually possible the OST was assembled before the final round of recording sessions, due to production requirements. Hence it already contains the alternate/original versions of revised cues that were recently recorded.It isn't a quick process pressing millions of CDs and shipping them globally. The OST would needed to have been locked at least a month before release.I'm totally convinced this will be the case. Probably the last alterations were minor additions or substractions, just like the ones asked by Abrams in the video, so we'll get the original cues. Will Tasker 1
crumbs 15,530 Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 I'd prefer it, actually. The OST should be Williams' original versions of cues, because we'll never hear them otherwise.At least we'll hear the film versions in the film, and the inevitable expanded release will be like the TPM UE where it's purely film versions. Taikomochi and Will Tasker 2
Scarpia 132 Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 I'm happy with this too. I just want the OST on release day, and it's frustrating not to be sure I can get it that day.Custom clearance in Chile is so inefficient!
Jay 42,831 Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 I still find it funny so many people are treating this 77 minutes runtime as new news; We've known about it since last week!
Jilal 628 Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 It's actually possible the OST was assembled before the final round of recording sessions, due to production requirements. Hence it already contains the alternate/original versions of revised cues that were recently recorded.It isn't a quick process pressing millions of CDs and shipping them globally. The OST would needed to have been locked at least a month before release.I'm totally convinced this will be the case. Probably the last alterations were minor additions or substractions, just like the ones asked by Abrams in the video, so we'll get the original cues.I don't think that'll be the case - instead, I'd say the music featured on the album is the music JW wants you to hear on it, meaning late revisions could possibly end up on it, if JW prefers them. It doesn't take that long to master a track.
Ricard 2,379 Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 I still find it funny so many people are treating this 77 minutes runtime as new news; We've known about it since last week!Who exactly knew about it since last week? I bet most people didn't.
Jay 42,831 Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 Every person who read this post from December 4th: http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=25617&page=34entry1195616 And the discussion that followed....
Ricard 2,379 Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 Every person who read this post from December 4th:http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=25617&page=34entry1195616And the discussion that followed....The discussion only followed for a few posts and immediately faded away. It should have been highlighted somehow, since not everyone reads every post. That's why most people didn't see it.
Not Mr. Big 4,819 Posted December 11, 2015 Author Posted December 11, 2015 What will the 8 seconds be?
Incanus 5,858 Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 Let's hope the song is 8 seconds long.
Tom 5,698 Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 New promo. Is the second half new SW music? https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=A9eNpRbqbuwStupid question for a guy living in 2015, but how does one embed a video?
Not Mr. Big 4,819 Posted December 11, 2015 Author Posted December 11, 2015 New promo. Is the second half new SW music? https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=A9eNpRbqbuwNo, it's just the account's unnecessarily lengthy outro
Maurizio 5,970 Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 Let's hope the song is 8 seconds long.I wouldn't be surprised if Miranda's source cue is edited into one of the score tracks, maybe as a sort of outro, for a maximum of 90 seconds (a bit like the source piece in Indy 4).
Jay 42,831 Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 New promo. Is the second half new SW music? https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=A9eNpRbqbuwStupid question for a guy living in 2015, but how does one embed a video? There are instructions right here: http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=21160In your case, just look at the URL you pasted: Remove the crap in the middle to only have the video ID and it will work:
mrbellamy 7,406 Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 Let's hope the song is 8 seconds long.I wouldn't be surprised if Miranda's source cue is edited into one of the score tracks, maybe as a sort of outro, for a maximum of 90 seconds (a bit like the source piece in Indy 4).That's what I think too.
Hook1991 10 Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 i definitely be purchasing The Force Awakens score on December 18, but i do have one question will the CD artwork still be the embossed cover like previously stated or has that now changed? i think it would be so awesome to have the embossed cover huge selling point for me. Man of Steel by Hans Zimmer had this also didn't it? Either way the cover/case was amazing! Loved it.
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