BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 There's really no point buying the OST at all now, knowing how much unreleased music there is. It's like buying a bunch of bananas but only getting peeled skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share Posted December 10, 2015 There's really no point buying the OST at all now, knowing how much unreleased music there is.It's like buying a bunch of bananas but only getting peeled skins.I'll gladly take the skins if I'm starving. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 797 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 The plan to record in London was made before he got a pacemaker installed.I don't remember there was any plan or indication Williams intended to initially record in London. Jacck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Isn't this like the way people who aren't really into film music tend to call score selections 'songs'?When the guy says remixes, doesn't he mean 'rearrangements of old themes'?Yes.Not sure about the combined orchestra though..... What could THAT mean in 'simple folks-terms'...?Probably just means the power of the whole orchestra playing together.OMG, common sense? On JWFan?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannhauser 101 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Hey guys, just wondering if there are any articles/websites/dissertations that provide a comprehensive analysis of the music of the original Star Wars trilogy? I'm not terribly familiar with the franchise - I've listened to the albums several times and know the more famous selections quite well, but haven't seen the films for many years. With the new film coming out, I'm planning to revisit the original trilogy and would like to take the opportunity to get to know the scores and musical motifs in further depth and detail. Any recommendations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarpia 132 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Hey guys, just wondering if there are any articles/websites/dissertations that provide a comprehensive analysis of the music of the original Star Wars trilogy? I'm not terribly familiar with the franchise - I've listened to the albums several times and know the more famous selections quite well, but haven't seen the films for many years. With the new film coming out, I'm planning to revisit the original trilogy and would like to take the opportunity to get to know the scores and musical motifs in further depth and detail. Any recommendations? You can start with Mike Richards' Celebrating Star Wars Themes series: http://www.filmmusicnotes.com/celebrating-star-wars-part-1-of-6-uses-of-the-force-theme/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 455 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 The plan to record in London was made before he got a pacemaker installed.I don't remember there was any plan or indication Williams intended to initially record in London.Williams indicated as such in the Variety interview. From a production standpoint (filming was mostly in the UK), it would've been more cost-effective to recorded with the LSO instead.I think Kathleen Kennedy took Abrams' post-production process into account, as well as Williams's age, before they announced "Episode VII Will Record Score in Los Angeles". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 JJ talks about JW and the score (starting at the 13:16 mark): The end credits include Rey's Theme, the Resistance theme and Kylo Ren's theme. Also, Leia's theme and the Force theme are heard in the score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 797 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 The plan to record in London was made before he got a pacemaker installed.I don't remember there was any plan or indication Williams intended to initially record in London.Williams indicated as such in the Variety interview. From a production standpoint (filming was mostly in the UK), it would've been more cost-effective to recorded with the LSO instead.I think Kathleen Kennedy took Abrams' post-production process into account, as well as Williams's age, before they announced "Episode VII Will Record Score in Los Angeles".Thanks for this.JJ talks about JW and the score (starting at the 13:16 mark): The end credits include Rey's Theme, the Resistance theme and Kylo Ren's theme. Also, Leia's theme and the Force theme are heard in the score8 minutes long..! Nice..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 According to Neil S. Bulk, the albums runs 77:08.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share Posted December 10, 2015 According to Neil S. Bulk, the albums runs 77:08.KarolHow would he know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 The Google Play listing was 75:05 or something wasn't it? Maybe Cellar Song is only 2 minutes long and they just shoved it at the end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 According to Neil S. Bulk, the albums runs 77:08.98 minutes of unreleased music, then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 So they wasted two minutes of disc space! Outrageous!Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Wait, Google Play has the runtime at 77:08 as well. I'm sure it was only 75 minutes when I checked the other day, so I'm either insane or they've updated their runtime. Someone here posted the runtime they had listed on Google Play last week, so if anyone wants to scan the thread feel free! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 There you go:Google Play Store shows 23 tracks too but indicates the full time as well: 1 hour, 17 minutes and 8 seconds!! Longer than the 3 prequel CDs!Link: https://play.google.com/store/music/album?id=Bcy2ehekhvtysp3ftal2bwz7hxe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,291 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 So we've been rounding it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I was going to say we already knew the running time last week!Karol must have missed the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 If that indeed is the final running time, and not a pre-trimmed album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I was going to say we already knew the running time last week!Karol must have missed the discussion.I think many people missed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Is the OST really 77 minutes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 No, JW hasn't microedited yet. It'll end up about 50 minutes shorter, like the good old days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Target exclusive ugh No info on how many emboss levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 We discussed the Target cover last month when it was revealed. I like it! http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=25617&p=1188979 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 what, no emboss, no buy Taikomochi and Demondm810 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,519 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 While it might seem quite long at first glance, 77 minutes seems like a reasonable length for a score of this scope. I have the fullest trust in Williams' album arrangement skills!(by the way, I'm starting to think that Stefancos' suggestion of a sub-forum dedicated to TFA wasn't such a bad idea after all -- at least a temporary one -- judging from all the different threads popping up now). mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 But you forget that End Credits (a rehash of the concert suites) and Cellar Song takes up at least 43 minutes of that runtime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook1991 10 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 okay so the score is 77 minutes long. i'm okay with this and really excited. Hopefully though at soime point the other 2 hours of music gets released. Also is the 30 mins of unreleased music being released as well? Didn't JJ say there was an additional 30 minutes that would be released?bI wonder if it is already included in the 77 minute album runtime.Thanks!1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 It's actually possible the OST was assembled before the final round of recording sessions, due to production requirements. Hence it already contains the alternate/original versions of revised cues that were recently recorded.It isn't a quick process pressing millions of CDs and shipping them globally. The OST would needed to have been locked at least a month before release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarpia 132 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 It's actually possible the OST was assembled before the final round of recording sessions, due to production requirements. Hence it already contains the alternate/original versions of revised cues that were recently recorded.It isn't a quick process pressing millions of CDs and shipping them globally. The OST would needed to have been locked at least a month before release.I'm totally convinced this will be the case. Probably the last alterations were minor additions or substractions, just like the ones asked by Abrams in the video, so we'll get the original cues. Will Tasker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I'd prefer it, actually. The OST should be Williams' original versions of cues, because we'll never hear them otherwise.At least we'll hear the film versions in the film, and the inevitable expanded release will be like the TPM UE where it's purely film versions. Will Tasker and Taikomochi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarpia 132 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I'm happy with this too. I just want the OST on release day, and it's frustrating not to be sure I can get it that day.Custom clearance in Chile is so inefficient! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I still find it funny so many people are treating this 77 minutes runtime as new news; We've known about it since last week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 It's actually possible the OST was assembled before the final round of recording sessions, due to production requirements. Hence it already contains the alternate/original versions of revised cues that were recently recorded.It isn't a quick process pressing millions of CDs and shipping them globally. The OST would needed to have been locked at least a month before release.I'm totally convinced this will be the case. Probably the last alterations were minor additions or substractions, just like the ones asked by Abrams in the video, so we'll get the original cues.I don't think that'll be the case - instead, I'd say the music featured on the album is the music JW wants you to hear on it, meaning late revisions could possibly end up on it, if JW prefers them. It doesn't take that long to master a track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I still find it funny so many people are treating this 77 minutes runtime as new news; We've known about it since last week!Who exactly knew about it since last week? I bet most people didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Every person who read this post from December 4th: http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=25617&page=34entry1195616 And the discussion that followed.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Every person who read this post from December 4th:http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=25617&page=34entry1195616And the discussion that followed....The discussion only followed for a few posts and immediately faded away. It should have been highlighted somehow, since not everyone reads every post. That's why most people didn't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 OK I put it in the thread title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted December 11, 2015 Author Share Posted December 11, 2015 What will the 8 seconds be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Let's hope the song is 8 seconds long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,670 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 New promo. Is the second half new SW music? https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=A9eNpRbqbuwStupid question for a guy living in 2015, but how does one embed a video? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I want to say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted December 11, 2015 Author Share Posted December 11, 2015 New promo. Is the second half new SW music? https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=A9eNpRbqbuwNo, it's just the account's unnecessarily lengthy outro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Let's hope the song is 8 seconds long.I wouldn't be surprised if Miranda's source cue is edited into one of the score tracks, maybe as a sort of outro, for a maximum of 90 seconds (a bit like the source piece in Indy 4). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 New promo. Is the second half new SW music? https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=A9eNpRbqbuwStupid question for a guy living in 2015, but how does one embed a video? There are instructions right here: http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=21160In your case, just look at the URL you pasted: Remove the crap in the middle to only have the video ID and it will work: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Good point, Maurizio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,291 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Let's hope the song is 8 seconds long.I wouldn't be surprised if Miranda's source cue is edited into one of the score tracks, maybe as a sort of outro, for a maximum of 90 seconds (a bit like the source piece in Indy 4).That's what I think too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook1991 10 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 i definitely be purchasing The Force Awakens score on December 18, but i do have one question will the CD artwork still be the embossed cover like previously stated or has that now changed? i think it would be so awesome to have the embossed cover huge selling point for me. Man of Steel by Hans Zimmer had this also didn't it? Either way the cover/case was amazing! Loved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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