2012 Oscar Discussion Thread (Tintin and War Horse nominated for Best Original Score!)
#1
Posted 24 January 2012 - 01:45 PM
Best Picture
"The Artist" Thomas Langmann, Producer
"The Descendants" Jim Burke, Alexander Payne and Jim Taylor, Producers
"Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close" Scott Rudin, Producer
"The Help" Brunson Green, Chris Columbus and Michael Barnathan, Producers
"Hugo" Graham King and Martin Scorsese, Producers
"Midnight in Paris" Letty Aronson and Stephen Tenenbaum, Producers
"Moneyball" Michael De Luca, Rachael Horovitz and Brad Pitt, Producers
"The Tree of Life" Nominees to be determined
"War Horse" Steven Spielberg and Kathleen Kennedy, Producers
Actor in a Leading Role
Demián Bichir in "A Better Life"
George Clooney in "The Descendants"
Jean Dujardin in "The Artist"
Gary Oldman in "Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy"
Brad Pitt in "Moneyball"
Actor in a Supporting Role
Kenneth Branagh in "My Week with Marilyn"
Jonah Hill in "Moneyball"
Nick Nolte in "Warrior"
Christopher Plummer in "Beginners"
Max von Sydow in "Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close"
Actress in a Leading Role
Glenn Close in "Albert Nobbs"
Viola Davis in "The Help"
Rooney Mara in "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo"
Meryl Streep in "The Iron Lady"
Michelle Williams in "My Week with Marilyn"
Actress in a Supporting Role
Bérénice Bejo in "The Artist"
Jessica Chastain in "The Help"
Melissa McCarthy in "Bridesmaids"
Janet McTeer in "Albert Nobbs"
Octavia Spencer in "The Help"
Animated Feature Film
"A Cat in Paris" Alain Gagnol and Jean-Loup Felicioli
"Chico & Rita" Fernando Trueba and Javier Mariscal
"Kung Fu Panda 2" Jennifer Yuh Nelson
"Puss in Boots" Chris Miller
"Rango" Gore Verbinski
Art Direction
"The Artist" Production Design: Laurence Bennett; Set Decoration: Robert Gould
"Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2" Production Design: Stuart Craig; Set Decoration: Stephenie McMillan
"Hugo" Production Design: Dante Ferretti; Set Decoration: Francesca Lo Schiavo
"Midnight in Paris" Production Design: Anne Seibel; Set Decoration: Hélène Dubreuil
"War Horse" Production Design: Rick Carter; Set Decoration: Lee Sandales
Cinematography
"The Artist" Guillaume Schiffman
"The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo" Jeff Cronenweth
"Hugo" Robert Richardson
"The Tree of Life" Emmanuel Lubezki
"War Horse" Janusz Kaminski
Costume Design
"Anonymous" Lisy Christl
"The Artist" Mark Bridges
"Hugo" Sandy Powell
"Jane Eyre" Michael O'Connor
"W.E." Arianne Phillips
Directing
"The Artist" Michel Hazanavicius
"The Descendants" Alexander Payne
"Hugo" Martin Scorsese
"Midnight in Paris" Woody Allen
"The Tree of Life" Terrence Malick
Documentary (Feature)
"Hell and Back Again" Danfung Dennis and Mike Lerner
"If a Tree Falls: A Story of the Earth Liberation Front" Marshall Curry and Sam Cullman
"Paradise Lost 3: Purgatory" Charles Ferguson and Audrey Marrs
"Pina" Wim Wenders and Gian-Piero Ringel
"Undefeated" TJ Martin, Dan Lindsay and Richard Middlemas
Documentary (Short Subject)
"The Barber of Birmingham: Foot Soldier of the Civil Rights Movement" Robin Fryday and Gail Dolgin
"God Is the Bigger Elvis" Rebecca Cammisa and Julie Anderson
"Incident in New Baghdad"James Spione
"Saving Face" Daniel Junge and Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy
"The Tsunami and the Cherry Blossom" Lucy Walker and Kira Carstensen
Film Editing
"The Artist" Anne-Sophie Bion and Michel Hazanavicius
"The Descendants" Kevin Tent
"The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo" Kirk Baxter and Angus Wall
"Hugo" Thelma Schoonmaker
"Moneyball" Christopher Tellefsen
Foreign Language Film
"Bullhead" Belgium
"Footnote"
"In Darkness" Poland
"Monsieur Lazhar" Canada
"A Separation" Iran
Makeup
"Albert Nobbs" Martial Corneville, Lynn Johnston and Matthew W. Mungle
"Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2" Edouard F. Henriques, Gregory Funk and Yolanda Toussieng
"The Iron Lady" Mark Coulier and J. Roy Helland
Music (Original Score)
"The Adventures of Tintin" John Williams
"The Artist" Ludovic Bource
"Hugo" Howard Shore
"Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy" Alberto Iglesias
"War Horse" John Williams
Music (Original Song)
"Man or Muppet" from "The Muppets" Music and Lyric by Bret McKenzie
"Real in Rio" from "Rio" Music by Sergio Mendes and Carlinhos Brown Lyric by Siedah Garrett
Short Film (Animated)
"Dimanche/Sunday" Patrick Doyon
"The Fantastic Flying Books of Mr. Morris Lessmore" William Joyce and Brandon Oldenburg
"La Luna" Enrico Casarosa
"A Morning Stroll" Grant Orchard and Sue Goffe
"Wild Life" Amanda Forbis and Wendy Tilby
Short Film (Live Action)
"Pentecost" Peter McDonald and Eimear O'Kane
"Raju" Max Zähle and Stefan Gieren
"The Shore" Terry George and Oorlagh George
"Time Freak" Andrew Bowler and Gigi Causey
"Tuba Atlantic" Hallvar Witzø
Sound Editing
"Drive" Lon Bender and Victor Ray Ennis
"The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo" Ren Klyce
"Hugo" Philip Stockton and Eugene Gearty
"Transformers: Dark of the Moon" Ethan Van der Ryn and Erik Aadahl
"War Horse" Richard Hymns and Gary Rydstrom
Sound Mixing
"The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo" David Parker, Michael Semanick, Ren Klyce and Bo Persson
"Hugo" Tom Fleischman and John Midgley
"Moneyball" Deb Adair, Ron Bochar, Dave Giammarco and Ed Novick
"Transformers: Dark of the Moon" Greg P. Russell, Gary Summers, Jeffrey J. Haboush and Peter J. Devlin
"War Horse" Gary Rydstrom, Andy Nelson, Tom Johnson and Stuart Wilson
Visual Effects
"Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2" Tim Burke, David Vickery, Greg Butler and John Richardson
"Hugo" Rob Legato, Joss Williams, Ben Grossman and Alex Henning
"Real Steel" Erik Nash, John Rosengrant, Dan Taylor and Swen Gillberg
"Rise of the Planet of the Apes" Joe Letteri, Dan Lemmon, R. Christopher White and Daniel Barrett
"Transformers: Dark of the Moon" Scott Farrar, Scott Benza, Matthew Butler and John Frazier
Writing (Adapted Screenplay)
"The Descendants" Screenplay by Alexander Payne and Nat Faxon & Jim Rash
"Hugo" Screenplay by John Logan
"The Ides of March" Screenplay by George Clooney & Grant Heslov and Beau Willimon
"Moneyball" Screenplay by Steven Zaillian and Aaron Sorkin. Story by Stan Chervin
"Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy" Screenplay by Bridget O'Connor & Peter Straughan
Writing (Original Screenplay)
"The Artist" Written by Michel Hazanavicius
"Bridesmaids" Written by Annie Mumolo & Kristen Wiig
"Margin Call" Written by J.C. Chandor
"Midnight in Paris" Written by Woody Allen
"A Separation" Written by Asghar Farhadi
http://oscar.go.com/...inal%20Score%29
#2
Posted 24 January 2012 - 01:50 PM
#3
Posted 24 January 2012 - 01:50 PM
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
#4
Posted 24 January 2012 - 01:52 PM
But 'Tintin' failed to pull a nomination for Animated Feature. The snub of all snubs.
I'd imagine they didn't think it was eligible to the motion capture process or something...it's the only explanation
#5
Posted 24 January 2012 - 01:53 PM
Congratulations to John Williams! The first two truly original scores in six years, and you're nominated for both of them!
As an FYI, these nominations mark numbers 46 and 47, breaking his tie with Alfred Newman and bringing him closer to Walt Disney's record of 59.

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#6
Posted 24 January 2012 - 01:56 PM
#7
Posted 24 January 2012 - 01:57 PM
Karol
#8
Posted 24 January 2012 - 02:08 PM
Perhaps they too were sick of the voters nitwits voting on crap music?Not that I care, but this is surprisingly strong lineup. And every single score in this category is "old fashioned".
Oh, and Bullhead (Rundskop) is nominated for Best (Foreign Language) Film! Excellent!
#9
Posted 24 January 2012 - 02:14 PM
- George Lucas
#10
Posted 24 January 2012 - 02:15 PM
#11
Posted 24 January 2012 - 02:18 PM
The same happened with Munich and Memoirs of a Geisha didn't it?
#12
Posted 24 January 2012 - 02:19 PM
#13
Posted 24 January 2012 - 02:20 PM
#14
Posted 24 January 2012 - 02:21 PM
However, it will probably go to the Artist.
#15
Posted 24 January 2012 - 02:23 PM
And no Reznor and Ross?
#16
Posted 24 January 2012 - 02:23 PM
I can't understand why only 2 nominations for best song! this is a first?
#17
Posted 24 January 2012 - 02:25 PM
#18
Posted 24 January 2012 - 02:30 PM
And no Reznor and Ross?
#19
Posted 24 January 2012 - 02:38 PM
It sure is weird Tintin wasn't nominated for best animated film.
JW has no chance of winning the oscar. Even if ONLY War Horse was nominated his chances were slim... but the double-nom pretty much guarantees it won't happen
Only 2 original score noms is weird
Happy to see The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo get so many noms.... but why the hell not Fincher for Directing???
#20
Posted 24 January 2012 - 02:54 PM
On Feb. 27 people will talk about how the show had some of the lowest ratings of all time for the Oscars.
They will wonder why? And the answer is clear, The 9 films nominated for best picture were 8 films that hardly anyone saw. The Help, Moneyball and War Horse will be the three most viewed films, and only the Help was an actual blockbuster film (barely).
#21
Posted 24 January 2012 - 02:57 PM
Now lets hope Johnny will win. With his fabulous Tintin!
#22
Posted 24 January 2012 - 02:59 PM
THE ARTIST will in any case.
#24
Posted 24 January 2012 - 03:05 PM
#25
Posted 24 January 2012 - 03:09 PM
Although I gotta say, I am still a bit surprised (or should I say dismayed?) that Johnny is nominated for both "Tintin" and "War Horse," two Spielberg movies in the same year! I wouldn't have believed it possible. But oh well. At this point, JW is probably saying to himself, "Who cares about winning? I will show the world who can garner the most 2 nominations in the same category in the same year!"
I found TINTIN rather disappointing and not really deserving of an Oscar nom. But WAR HORSE definitely was, so happy for that.
YES!
Now lets hope Johnny will win. With his fabulous Tintin!
#26
Posted 24 January 2012 - 03:24 PM
The Artist will have yet another Oscar under its bag.
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#27
Posted 24 January 2012 - 03:35 PM
#28
Posted 24 January 2012 - 03:38 PM
Wow, I think this is the best possible situation for JW, since we pretty much knew he wouldn't win the Oscar anyways. He may as well rack up those nominations!
1. Nightwatch/Killer By Night - Johnny Williams and Quincy Jones 2. Diamond Head/Gone with the Wave - Johnny Williams/Lalo Schifrin 3. Mass - Leonard Bernstein 4. Bernstein with the New York Philharmonic - Leonard Bernstein
#30
Posted 24 January 2012 - 03:51 PM
I wish they would switch back to the 5 nominees for Best Picture. There's no prestige in being nominated if they're picking 10 films.
1. Nightwatch/Killer By Night - Johnny Williams and Quincy Jones 2. Diamond Head/Gone with the Wave - Johnny Williams/Lalo Schifrin 3. Mass - Leonard Bernstein 4. Bernstein with the New York Philharmonic - Leonard Bernstein
#32
Posted 24 January 2012 - 04:12 PM
they didn't pick 10 films. you're not good with numbers today.Oh whoops, my bad. Still, it's been 7 years since a JW score to a popcorn film was nominated.
I wish they would switch back to the 5 nominees for Best Picture. There's no prestige in being nominated if they're picking 10 films.
#33
Posted 24 January 2012 - 04:19 PM
With this line-up, i would given him the thing for WAR HORSE. Not because it's so exceptionally great (it isn't), but because apart from THE ARTIST all other scores are somewhat weaker.
#34
Posted 24 January 2012 - 04:48 PM
This is a great day for all of us.
Both of Mr. Williams scores got in!
#35
Posted 24 January 2012 - 05:03 PM
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
#36
Posted 24 January 2012 - 05:15 PM
Karol
#37
Posted 24 January 2012 - 05:31 PM
But it really is a shame Williams won't be getting his 6th Oscar this year; I was really looking forward to it
99.99% sure the Artist is taking the Oscar.
At least we can be proud of Williams for his new nomination record. Now he just needs to score enough to beat disney for being at the to!!!
Music Muse Reviews: "Escape From Tomorrow by Abel Korzeniowski
#38
Posted 24 January 2012 - 05:38 PM
Karol
#39
Posted 24 January 2012 - 05:46 PM
Again Harry Potter got snubbed at the Oscars for even nominations. I figured this would happen, even though many thought the Academy would give them more as a sort of "encompassing the entire series" theory. But honestly, I don't care about any other Oscar that series could win EXCEPT for Art Direction. Stuart Craig needs to win this Oscar for the Harry Potter series already. I believe he has been nominated to it every time a Potter film has come out, if I am not mistaken, but never won. He needs to win it this time, not just because his art direction was excellent in the final film, but because this is a case where he should be recognized for his incredible work on the entire series. Anyone else agree? Anyone think it might happen? If it was Potter's only Oscar ever, it'd be great and well-deserved.
I love that Hugo got so many Oscar nominations. I really loved that film because it was a film about films, and I had no idea that's what it was going to be when I saw it. And the way the story went about it, and the way it was presented (in the best 3D I have ever seen) really captivated me far more than any other film this year. And my love for silent films really helped my enjoyment for the history involved (I know, that means I really should go see The Artist, too). I thought perhaps it would have been forgotten by the Academy but apparently not. I hope it wins a lot.
Having Tintin not nominated for best animated film is a slap in the face, honestly, and the worst omission of this year. I think their push for Andy Serkis to be nominated for best supporting actor ruined it's chance, honestly. They kept touting how it wasn't really animation, but Andy's actual performance, and should be recognized, which I totally agreed with. But perhaps when the academy heard this they then said "well if they don't want to be treated like an animated film, then we won't treat it like one." Hence no nomination, because now in their eyes the film isn't animated but still performed by regular people like any other film. Of course they are missing the point here, completely. And this line of thinking surely does sound backwards enough to work for them. And of course, Andy Serkis didn't even get nominated anyway. Maybe from this point on no motion capture film will be nominated for Best Animated Film, and only the more "traditionally animated" ones, as seen on this year's list, will.
Another omission that will probably only be noticed from me is Super 8. Perhaps it is because it was personally a fantastic film in the same way Hugo was (another movie about movies, but in a very different way). I didn't expect it to be nominated much, perhaps just for effects (that train crash sequence had to be the most impressive scene I have seen all year), or sound, and possibly even score, but apparently not. I know the score to this film isn't anything amazing, but just from being on these forums it is VERY clear it has a lot of fans, far more than most of the other nominees, even Hugo. In fact, I think Super 8 is the score I play more frequently than any of the other score that came out this year. But as always, it doesn't take an Oscar to tell you that something is great, or not.

#40
Posted 24 January 2012 - 05:48 PM
I liked all the scores nominated this year. The hell? How did that happen?!
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