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    MikeH reacted to crocodile in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (James Mangold, June 30 2023)   
    I'm waiting for my second viewing to start. I'm here mostly for Johnny. Want to hear the music again now that I know the album (haven't heard it before my first).
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    MikeH reacted to JWilliamsFan1999 in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Score in the film) - SPOILERS ALLOWED!   
    This was yesterday when I went to see Dial Of Destiny at my local theater, of course I had to dress as Indy for the occasion. What do you guys think?
    I absolutely loved the movie and the score very much.

    Me as Indiana Jones

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    MikeH reacted to Taikomochi in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Score in the film) - SPOILERS ALLOWED!   
    I stayed through the credits, and a family member who does not like film music commented on how achingly beautiful “Helena’s Theme” is. It reminded me that, at least for Williams scores, it’s worth staying through the credits.
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    MikeH reacted to paleo in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Disney Records Original Soundtrack Album) - NO FILM SPOILERS!   
    Well, one week has passed since I bought the album, and by now I can say I enjoy this score more than any other in the past years, if not decades. I have spent a significant portion of my spare time listening to the album, often even the whole thing, and just can't get enough. I'm really grateful to have an experience like this one more time.
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    MikeH reacted to Alex in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Score in the film) - SPOILERS ALLOWED!   
    I desperately want to hear a clean version of the NYC chase music. It just sounds so different to the rest of the score. I’d be really interested to hear about that choice.
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    MikeH reacted to Indianagirl in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Disney Records Original Soundtrack Album) - NO FILM SPOILERS!   
    I think this is John's best score in several years. Not sure how many. But several.
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    MikeH reacted to Falstaft in Dial of Destiny: Theme Transcriptions (Updated)   
    Not sure if this warrants its own thread or not, but I've done a first pass at transcriptions of the new themes from DoD. I don't know if we've come up with consensus labels for all of these, besides the obvious for Helena and Voller. Also have little confidence that the Archimedes theme is transcribed rhythmically 100% accurately, or the tertiary Nazi theme harmonically.
    Helena (transcribed from arrangement that premiered last year):

    Antiquity/Antithykera Mechanism (transcribed from "Prologue")

    Antithykera Mechanism (transcribed from "Archimedes Tomb")

    Antikythera Piano Figure (transcribed from "Battle of Syracuse")

    Archimedes (Transcribed from "Prologue")

    Nazis 0 "Voller" (transcribed from "Airport")

     Nazis 1 "Spirit" (transcribed from "Prologue")

    Nazis 2 "Supremacy" - exotic and furtive (transcribed from "Prologue")

    Nazis 3 "Might" -- chorale(transcribed from "Prologue")

    Nazis 4 "Determination" -- Transcribed from "The Airport"

    Syracuse -- Transcribed from "The Battle of Syracuse"

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    MikeH reacted to Gustavo Joseph in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Score in the film) - SPOILERS ALLOWED!   
    I'm just so curious to listen to the NY piano-heavy chase music, sounded really interesting in the movie.
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    MikeH reacted to King Mark in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Score in the film) - SPOILERS ALLOWED!   
    Well I remember when people first saw Revenge of the Sith they were saying "no major cues or highlights were left off the OST"
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    MikeH reacted to crumbs in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Score in the film) - SPOILERS ALLOWED!   
    His "farewell" is omitting all the wonderful music you want from his OST, specifically because he knows it annoys you.
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    MikeH reacted to Tydirium in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Score in the film) - SPOILERS ALLOWED!   
    Just got back from seeing the film. I thought the score was fantastic! Definitely sounded like new recordings of most if not all of the existing material from the earlier films, which makes me all the more bummed that so much of it didn’t make it onto the OST. I actually really enjoyed all the reused stuff, and “Belly of the Steel Beast” for example was so cool to hear in a movie theater (TLC came out a few years before I was born).
    Based on some posts here and elsewhere, I was also bracing myself for not much Indy theme, but was pleasantly surprised; I thought his theme showed up in all the right places, and there were some really awesome renditions that, again, I wish had made it onto the album. Prior to seeing the film I had listened through the OST 4 times, so the stuff that wasn’t on it really stood out to me in the theater.
    Still, it was incredible hearing a John Williams score in theaters in 2023. (I’m ashamed to say I didn’t make it to see Fabelmans in theaters last year, so this was my first time hearing his music in the theater since TROS.) And I know some have had a tough time with Helena’s theme, but over the past 9 months it has become one of my favorite JW themes in a very long time, and its use in the film was pretty much everything I had hoped for. Archimedes’ theme was also a highlight. All in all, I’m very happy! Hoping to go see it again with a friend soon.
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    MikeH reacted to phbart in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Score in the film) - SPOILERS ALLOWED!   
    Finally got to see it last night. So many recognizable themes from the trilogy throughout the film. I wonder how many people in the theater were able to spot those themes 
    It's soooooooo satisfying to see this in the credits. 

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    MikeH reacted to crumbs in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Disney Records Original Soundtrack Album) - NO FILM SPOILERS!   
    Absolutely incredible interview! Mangold not just geeking out about working with Williams but providing genuine insight into their process and how involved Williams was. First time I've heard about him watching dailies while production was ongoing and formulating the score during production.
    Also fascinating is Mangold voicing his frustration at JW's initial soundtracks being so incomplete (and often filled with non-film cue suites), name-dropping LLL for coming to the rescue, while lamenting it takes 20+ years for JW scores to receive expansions. Mangold's one of us!
    He has enough clout to speak to LFL/WDR/JW about changing this situation (at least for the Indy scores) so let's hope conversations are happening in the background. But it might be a good time for everyone to dust off their Twitter accounts and tell him how badly we want these expanded...
    Mangold's exact comments for anyone who can't listen:
    "It's forever to my chagrin that they release these albums, you know the initial release, that are like 10 or 11 tracks of John's music... but there's always these suite versions of the music. And then later, 20 years later, they'll release the full La La Land Records 96 cue versions... you know, those are the things you gotta have because they have all this incidental stuff he does that's just... brilliant."
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    MikeH reacted to TheUlyssesian in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Disney Records Original Soundtrack Album) - NO FILM SPOILERS!   
    James Mangold: Johnny! Helena's theme is great. How about we do ONE theme for the bad guys and ONE theme for the mcguffin - like in the other films? 
    John Williams: Yes! Yes! Yes! (laughs manically)
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    MikeH reacted to mrbellamy in STAR WARS - Live To Projection Concerts   
    Going tonight! This is John Williams week, baby. 
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    MikeH reacted to igger6 in STAR WARS - Live To Projection Concerts   
    Couldn't find a thread for this specific topic, so here goes:
    Just got back from seeing TFA LTP at the Chicago Symphony last night.  Man, what a score to hear live!  My brother and I assumed our usual CSO practice of loitering on the main floor, enjoying the atmosphere and legroom, until the real buyers of our seats arrived—but this time, they never came!  So we enjoyed the whole movie from the fourth row!
    This was one of my last live Holy Grails among the available scores (Superman is still out there), and it was a delight.  The opening chord blew the socks off the version on the sequel trilogy OSTs, Rey's Theme finally managed to overpower the sound of her speeder, and I was actually able to perceive Scherzo for X-Wings during the bombing run.  The brass was fantastic as always, but Williams' action music for strings shone particularly brightly live (maybe because violins and cellos are about all you see from the main floor—but boy, do you see them!  We managed to recognize and compliment a cellist on his way out of an alley after the show.)  "Follow Me" and "The Falcon" were electric, and the live performance had a way of dragging this orchestrational novice into appreciating the athletic string figures that underpin the melody.
    Best of all, the unbelievable "Jedi Steps and Finale" (which nearly the entire house stayed to enjoy) ended with the revised—and apparently now, definitive—ending that's on John Morris Russell's "Voyage" recording, that bombastic and celebratory interpolation of Luke's theme into the usual fanfare that ends the finale in "A New Hope."  It's my favorite Williams revision of all time!
    If you ever have the opportunity to see TFA live, don't miss it.  This cemented that score as my favorite Williams work of the past 20 years. 
    Now do Phantom Menace with live choir, cowards!
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    MikeH reacted to crumbs in STAR WARS - Live To Projection Concerts   
    So interesting you had the same experience hearing TFA live as I did, @Ludwig.
    It was completely revelatory to my ears, like hearing an entirely different score in some cues. All the classic Star Wars-ian accents and flourishes you'd be forgiven for thinking were missing from the score, were abound in the live performance.
    That abrasively dry film recording did such a disservice to JW's score, which is rich with orchestral details that were buried, or lost entirely, in the mix.
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    MikeH reacted to crumbs in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Score in the film) - SPOILERS ALLOWED!   
    As a diehard JW fan, the temp track love made the experience frustrating. Direct lifts from Minority Report, War of the Worlds, Tintin, and all 4 previous Indy films. I spent most of the film catching myself asking "where was that 3 second lift taken from?"
    I don't blame JW in the slightest, of course. These are immensely complex and time-consuming scores. The fact we still got nearly 2 hours of original score isn't lost on me. If that meant lifting a few bars from other scores, so be it. At the end of the day, Helena's Theme is the hero of the score and it shines the brightest. It's surrounded by a plethora of kickass and totally original music; I just wish the lifts weren't as blatant.
    Either way, much like the film, it's a melancholic affair. Knowing this is likely JW's final foray in film scoring. An overwhelming sense of sadness hit me during the credits, just sitting in a near-empty cinema wondering if this was the final time I'd ever hear new JW music in a theater. The film felt like closing a chapter in my life... and if that's the way JW goes out, then what a way to go.
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    MikeH reacted to Richard Penna in Vanity Fair article on John Williams (June 2023)   
    Hah, that's not something I'd expect from something of the profile of Vanity Fair. How many people have to proof an article without someone seeing that photo and thinking.... that's not JW 
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    MikeH reacted to pete in Vanity Fair article on John Williams (June 2023)   
    It's not even the guitarist!
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    MikeH reacted to Tom in Excerpt from Indy 5 OST track "New York, 1969" now streaming   
    Turns out, every track is titled "New York, 1969."  
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    MikeH reacted to Courtney Sees Ghosts in NYT: "John Williams on 'Indiana Jones' and His Favorite Scores" (6/24/23)   
    Scoring “The Rise of Skywalker” in 2019, after more than 40 years with “Star Wars,” Williams said he didn’t want it to be over. “My feeling was, ‘This is fun. Let’s go back and do nine more.’”

    Imagine if homie scores Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy and James Mangold's movies. LMFAO
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